Idiocy? I’m getting burned out on the 8wt and I haven’t been able to make it to the mtns in too darn long. Would a 25" red destroy my nice little 6.5 ft Loomis? I think with enough open water a red would be a mess on a 3wt but most grass situations don’t allow super long runs. I’m trying it one day this week if the wind is right. I did catch a 5lb largemouth on the 3wt once and a 30" carp. Shouldn’t be a problem, other than the super ugly casts trying to roll over thick tippet and a redfish fly.
“most grass situations dont allow super long runs.”
you sure you fishin for spottails man? ha just messin a pup would be fun but i had a nice one take me into my backing this evenin straight across the flat and into the river, don’t do the 3 i don’t know how you would cast a saltwater fly on that thang anyway
Fine print on the “lifetime guarantee” for Loomis…
If you target fish that are unreasonable for the size of the rod…warranty becomes null and void. Happy fishing. G Loomis Co.
don’t do it for 2 reasons:
- equipment issues: broken rod, or busted reel/drag, or spooled reel and lost fly line
- fish issues: a long fight (were you to land the fish) would likely kill the fish.
don’t kill the fish just so you can have fun or because you’re “bored”.
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2. fish issues: a long fight (were you to land the fish) would likely kill the fish. don't kill the fish just so you can have fun or because you're "bored".
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“Fishing is alot like sex…when its good,it’s really good, and when its bad, its still pretty good.”
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Originally posted by Shadowgrassquote:
2. fish issues: a long fight (were you to land the fish) would likely kill the fish. don't kill the fish just so you can have fun or because you're "bored".
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“Fishing is alot like sex…when its good,it’s really good, and when its bad, its still pretty good.”
I’ll third this one… If you kill a fish or take a fish off a flat they are gone. if ya leave where ya found 'em they are there to be caught again and I’d rather catch the same 30"+ red 20 times than kill it because I was “bored”… There is nothing wrong with keeping a fish or, if you are that kind of person, a limit every time you fish but I like to keep the fish outt ehre to be caught again because although I love fly fishing, I am not that good as to catch one everytuiem I go out, so I am NEVER “bored” with a fly rod in my hands… maybe a little frustrated at times 
but NEVER bored…
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i got a 15 incher on my 8 and it wasnt much and the fight was short but the fish was very tired. i was suprised but i guess it was the high temp water.
Easy on the questioning of my conservation ethics. I have yet to harvest an inshore or nearshore fish within my 32 years of existence, whether freshwater or saltwater. I can’t say that the tuna, wahoo, and dolphin have not made it to the grill, but everything else was tossed back. Everybody is looking to increase the level of sport and difficulty as you progress. Put down the gun and pickup the bow, put down the compound and pickup the recurve. Etc. Put down the spinning rod and pickup a fly rod. Go as light as possible for the enjoyment of the fight without jeopardizing the fish or tackle. Please don’t equate my supposed boredom to a total disregard for the fish. Not the case at all.
You could land a small to medium red in the early spring or late fall on a 3wt without killing it. You can throw a weightless low profile fly or a small crab pattern fairly easily.
I agree with the other guys that trying it now would almost certainly be a death sentence for the fish.
I got a 29" on a 6wt in May that swam away healthy.
There is nothing - absolutely nothing- half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. Kenneth Grahame
The weight off the rod is only part of the equation. For example, take your 3 weight and use 12 lb tippet and a reel with a quality drag. Point the rod tip at the fish and by “stripping” the line in you can still put a lot of pressure on. I’m sure you already know this, but others on here might not.
The take is the best part to me, regardless of the weight rod. I do get excited on the rare occasion that I feel backing in my finger tips though
trs-- sometimes posts sound different than intended. i don’t want you to think i was alluding to your having a lack of ethics. not my intent. sorry if it came across that way. just trying to bring up a couple of points you may not have thought of. never want to be one of those “snipey” posters that acts like a big boy; and all the while hiding behind a keyboard.
this is not directed at you; just happens to be a soapbox issue for me… but i think the ifga has had some negative affects on fish species. so many people are out there trying to set personal or world records with the lightest possible tippets/line. this kills too many fish. i used to fish with a guy that tried this often and occassionally killed fish. sure the fight is fun but isn’t the most exhilerating part of the catch the take and the release. again, trs, this is not a sermon directed at you. i just had the flood gates open. i trust you’re a good sportsman.
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TRS - I have some menhaden in my freezer that would negate your inshore fish harvesting theory. I know where they came from…
However, I can admit I was pretty upset when you threw back that
doormat flounder recently…
quote:Just to answer your question the way you asked it: Idiocy? Yes.
Originally posted by TRSIdiocy? I’m getting burned out on the 8wt and I haven’t been able to make it to the mtns in too darn long. Would a 25" red destroy my nice little 6.5 ft Loomis? I think with enough open water a red would be a mess on a 3wt but most grass situations don’t allow super long runs. I’m trying it one day this week if the wind is right. I did catch a 5lb largemouth on the 3wt once and a 30" carp. Shouldn’t be a problem, other than the super ugly casts trying to roll over thick tippet and a redfish fly.
A 25" tailer on a 3wt? Nothing about this sounds like a smart idea. Not sure if you are actually wondering if this is a good idea or if you are trying to write something funny?
What part of the 3wt rod (besides the butt) will be doing any work?
I’m new to flyfishing…what about a 5wt on the flats. I just picked up an orvis 5wt today for the troutsies and looking at a 9wt for the flats. Would a 5wt work or would that put too much stress on the fish also? Just curious…I’ve only been using a 9wt so far…
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Originally posted by duckcommanderIt came across as knocking the rod not the cocks… and, wow, that sounds extremely gay.
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Sail, I have read some of your posts and it sounds like you are working hard at this fly fishing thing. As with all fishing, you get to do anything you want, that isn’t illegal. I have caught many trout and reds and feel like my favorite rods for trouts would me 5wt to 7wt and for reds it would be 7wt to 9wt. If I had only one salt water rod I would have a 8wt.
It’s not typical to pull large trout (6lb plus) out on a consistent basis in our waters. Trout are aggressive but, you can pull them in a lot easier than a red. You also don’t want to horse a fish that has a soft mouth. Reds, especially in grass can pull with a lot of power and it good to be able to stop them. Even the little ones can pull. Eventually you will tune your equipment to your type of fishing.
I don’t think it is does any good to fish for big fish with little rods. Every time I hear guys say, I’m going offshore and I’m taking a 9wt, I listen to hear the report that says, “I broke my 9wt on a reef donkey”. Just read some of the older posts.
Your 5wt for trout and 9wt for reds sound like it will work great for you. But, let us know.
Oops, forgot to ask. What Orvis did you get?
Sailfish, there is lots to think about when you are just starting out but, once you hook a fish try to tune into where the work is being done with the rod. If you have a fish on and only the tip of the rod is in flex then the rod is more than you needed in that situation. If you have a fish on and you feel all the fight right in your wrist then your rod is doing little if any work. Your 5wt will probably feel great with a trout on it. You will probably be happy to have the 9wt when a red decides he wants out of the grass and wants to run through oysters to get out of there. A 9wt weight has lots of stopping power without being a piece of lumber. A 3wt? Well…you know that answer.