Unusual question for Chris V

Hey Chris, do the command link controls still use the old fashioned control cables, or is it fly by wire like the big engines? If so, the bump stop will really be the best option and a rev limiter will be a Royal PITA when trying to run somewhere. If it would just stop at a set rpm and go no further, then it wouldn’t be so bad, but if it cuts out and back in like a traditional rev limiter, then it would really suck trying to hang on to it under power. Just some thoughts…

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184 Marathon
DF140 Suzuki

What I love about Larry is that he is an innovator :slight_smile:


2000 SeaPro 180CC w/ Yammy 115 2 stroke
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Yamaha said nothing is available and the tech I spoke with said no one had ever asked to go slower they all want to know how to go faster.

I told yall it was an unusual question :smiley: Appreciate the follow up and going the extra mile Chris.

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I was thinking a nice bump stop on the console with a desk drawer type lock built into the face so with a single key you could remove it

Fantastic idea, I like it!

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Hey Chris, do the command link controls still use the old fashioned control cables

Yes, standard Teleflex/Morse type cables. The control box is Teleflex, not Yamaha.

Sure do appreciate yalls input, many minds are better than just mine alone. We’re going to whip this.

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose

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Large trim tabs with skegs welded will put more control in the rear end

Wando Grill, I missed the part about welding skegs on the tabs. That may surely help with the sliding. Wondering if the tabs are strong enough to handle the side loading forces that would be put on them?

Sure would hate to weld anything on them, I sent them out and had them powder coated black, don’t want to mess that up now, but a bolt on would be easy enough.

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose

How about a smaller engine? Maybe a 70?

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Just an awesome boat! I feel like I know it almost just about as much as Phin’s BA Mako lol…I’m sure you’ll find a feasible solution and can’t wait to hear what it is! On a side note, I scrolled through some of those pics and might I ask what you’re lubricating with the “oil” quart on the engine with the tube going into baqck of the boat? For the sake of not getting too far off topic in thread, just pm me if ya want! Thanks. And what a great build again!

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“you win some, you lose some…but nothing beats getting some!”

Hey Larry, I’ll swap you a sweet 03, 70 Yammy for that awful, over-powered 90.

“Apathy is the Glove into Which Evil Slips It’s Hand”.

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Originally posted by Cracker Larry
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Large trim tabs with skegs welded will put more control in the rear end

Wando Grill, I missed the part about welding skegs on the tabs. That may surely help with the sliding. Wondering if the tabs are strong enough to handle the side loading forces that would be put on them?

Sure would hate to weld anything on them, I sent them out and had them powder coated black, don’t want to mess that up now, but a bolt on would be easy enough.

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose


Or how about just a batwing tab like Bennett puts in the M80 and M120 tab kits?


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Originally posted by Cracker Larry
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Large trim tabs with skegs welded will put more control in the rear end

Wando Grill, I missed the part about welding skegs on the tabs. That may surely help with the sliding. Wondering if the tabs are strong enough to handle the side loading forces that would be put on them?

Sure would hate to weld anything on them, I sent them out and had them powder coated black, don’t want to mess that up now, but a bolt on would be easy enough.

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose


You are going to create a force that would likely pull on the screws and eventually rip them out that way. The screws on the mounting plate are in shear force at the moment, by the upward pressure on the plate. A lot harder to shear 8 bolts in unison, that to strip them out. I wouldn’t modify the design of the tabs, but could see adding a taller center strake to the hull. I am no boat builder though, and feel like the throttle stop is the better solution.

There is something cool about power sliding at 30+ mph in a skiff.

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Indigo Bay 170
90 Johnson

Wilderness Ride 115

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On a side note, I scrolled through some of those pics and might I ask what you're lubricating with the "oil" quart on the engine with the tube going into baqck of the boat?

That’s actually ATF fluid, filling up the trim tab reservoir.
It’s hard to reach so I made an extension tube.

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You are going to create a force that would likely pull on the screws and eventually rip them out that way. The screws on the mounting plate are in shear force at the moment, by the upward pressure on the plate.

My thoughts exactly on that idea. They aren’t designed for that amount of shear force. And sliding sideways is fun anyway:smiley:

I think the throttle stop block is the best answer so far.

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Hey Larry, I'll swap you a sweet 03, 70 Yammy for that awful, over-powered 90.

Doug, I’ve got a sweet 2007 70 I’d trade him too, don’t think he’ll go for it though.

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How about a smaller engine? Maybe a 70?

Are you related to poke salad?

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose

What about fabricating a nice “block” or something similar that could be locked/unlocked onto the dash that would inherently limit how far forward one could move the throttle control? Had a boat once that you had to lift up the CD player cover to go full throttle…

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Had a boat once that you had to lift up the CD player cover to go full throttle...

On my boat, if you put a beer in the cup holder on the console it keeps it from reaching full throttle. It’s my alcohol safety limiter :smiley:

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose

You know, now that I own this Montauk, I have a lot of respect for a well placed strip of wood on a boat. That strip on your console can help all kinds of things from sliding back all the way to the bilge when taking off.

“Banana Pants”
Indigo Bay 170
90 Johnson

Wilderness Ride 115

Larry, that’s a fine looking dog you have!

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fine looking dog you have!

Yes, he was. Capt. Sam was my boat building helper for 13 years. He and his life mate Delilah have both passed over the rainbow bridge now. Lila had a stroke and died a couple of years ago, Sam died 3 weeks later from a broken heart :frowning_face:

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I have a lot of respect for a well placed strip of wood on a boat. That strip on your console can help all kinds of things from sliding back all the way to the bilge when taking off.

That’s exactly what it’s for.

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose

Larry,
How about installing an adjustable fuel metering valve? You would have all the throttle but not the fuel.

I don’t understand :question:

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose

A valve in the fuel line that can be partially closed to restrict full fuel flow at wot.

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Originally posted by Fishnengr

A valve in the fuel line that can be partially closed to restrict full fuel flow at wot.


Can’t do that with fuel injection, also on an older 2 stroke limit your fuel but have the butterfly wide open and cylinders do not like the lack of lubrication. Bad things tend to happen.

I like the pad lock thing.

Beautiful boat Larry. Ready to take it Cormorant hunting? :wink:

Cracker
I know what fishnengr is thinking “restrict fuel flo at wot”
I’ve got a 90hp yamme that would scream at wot for 1/4 - 1/2 mile but would suddenly drop to about 2/3 throttle. looked at everything,let it idle for a minute and good to go for another 1/3 mile , repeat ,repeat, Yamme tech found the high pressure filter screen mostly stopped up; cleaned system all’s ok now. Limit valve might work but probably only after a duration of wide open top end!!!:roll_eyes::roll_eyes:
2 pennies worth.

GW

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