"Warmouths" ?

Didn’t want to jack Hoof’s thread on bream and all…so are ‘warmouths’ really a cross between bass and bream?

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No, they are a species of sunfish like any other… and if you REALLY want to get technical, there are no bream in the United States. We do not have bream, and if we did they would be an invasive species. A bream is a cyprinidae… ie, related to common carp. They are a European species of fish not at all related to our sunfish species that for some reason that can’t be explained people like to call bream. Bluegill etc, warmouth, and largemouth bass are all sunfish species.

http://www.fishing-headquarters.com/boundlesspursuit/

I’ll be (**()ed, had no idea…that’s a strong comment…your link didn’t give me and refferences or follow up media to back it up, tho its sounds good and all i’m gonna wait on a few more people to chime in! Thanks

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I won’t defend David’s explanation of “bream” since the word “bream” is just a colloquial term referring to mostly everything that isn’t a bass, catfish, or crappie. Which I suppose that’s why he said “really technical” (in which case he is probably “technically right” lol).

But he’s 100% accurate about the warmouth. Not a hybrid. Furthermore, they are their own specie evolved from the original common ancestor to all other sunfish, the ancient “blue supergiant starfish”. These extinct starfishes were once the biggest and baddest starfish in the ocean, but over millions of years, they dwindled in size due to entropy and eventually evolved into the various forms of sunfish we have now.



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Haha man I am sorry if my comment sounded brash, I did not AT ALL mean to sound that way. I kinda re-read how I put it and sounded like an A**. Sorry, that link is to my blog… its supposed to be my sig but always looks like its part of my post. I will have to put some lines over it to separate it from my posts or something!

http://www.fishing-headquarters.com/boundlesspursuit/

I gotcha! That’s pretty wild! Thanks for the insite!

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They aint called “warmouth” you call them stumpknockers :smiley: They are active right now, caught one out the pond that was longer than the rubber worm I was fishing with.

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Well Fred the ‘warmouths’ I have caught were much larger then the stumpknockers on the other post here…and had a largemouth style mouth on em…riddle me that Batman

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I got to chime in too…all these local names get mixed and applied to different fish…a stumpknocker where I come from, is a spotted sunfish and a really big one will be a third of a pound. The warmouth or ‘momouth’ does well in vegetated areas that support a lot of crayfish (crawdads, mudbugs, etc.). They do resemble what you would expect when you make some of the suggested hybrids. Mother nature made them to feed on slightly different stuff than bluegill, shellcracker, spotted sunfish, etc… So they ended up with bigger mouths and stouter bodies. They tend to live in more swampy dark water habitats than some of the other sunfish, but I’ve seen some big ones in Santee Cooper, but not real common. Had a fellow talk about catching them on pinkie jigs in the Salkehatchie Swamp when he was young. Seen a variety of colors, ranging from golden green flecked to almost purple flecked. Cool fish. “Freshwater Fishes of South Carolina” by Rohde, Arndt, Foltz, and Quattro is a really good read.

warmouth, mollys, “momouth”… all the same…

but they are NOT stumpknockers. haha

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Originally posted by dixiedeerslaya

warmouth, mollys, “momouth”… all the same…

but they are NOT stumpknockers. haha


A warmouth has always been a stumpknocker to me, guess it’s who ya grow up with and start fishing with. It’s all good. :smiley:

thanks fellas! this is the kinda info I was looking for

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