quote:What exactly do you want to change in "my fantasy world?" You should be glad that the guides in this area practice catch and release. If I and many
Originally posted by toppyblueFritzy?? reverse psychology aint gonna work no more…You catch/release guys know for sure(as you all previously claimed) that us catch and eat guys are the culprits…Come on,dont backtrack,you guys want it to be easy for you to catch fish for fun…And you also know that every single one we eat is one less available for you to catch(just for fun)…Man up be honest,You guys just want it easy.
I much prefer putting them in my skillet as opposed to you hooking them just for your fun,pleasure,and bragging rights…
They are so easy to catch nowdays it is pathetic to brag about it and senseless to waste them on just sport.One guy catches 50 in a couple hours,takes photos and brags about it…Fritzy puts up videos of clients showing off numerous breeder reds suffocating while being photographed(some with blood coming out the gill area).
This is all kinda silly how on one hand you say they are very few out there,then showing how easily they are caught,then targeting the breeders,while pretending it does not harm them…Seems like a protectionist fantasy world for sure…
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Originally posted by CaptFritzlol, catch and release people are selfish. That might be the dumbest thing I have read on this site in almost 15 years.
Charleston Fishing’s most hated guide!
/what am I thinking, of course you do. My can of trollspray is getting low.
Charleston Fishing’s most hated guide!
Actually I would way prefer a 12 to 18 inch red…I do catch a very few breeders greater than 27 inches but never never target breeder reds.Each one of those breeders lost is 1.5 million lost eggs per year!The very best conservation would be to leave them(breeders) alone.But you guys brag about targeting them,then claim you do no harm.
Guides are there to make money.Of course they are gonna release and re-catch,makes $ sense. A true conservationest would never “target” the breeders. Guides/catch-release guys should be held to the same limits as everyone else…3 per person regardless of size and go home…BUT how would you enforce that?? We could have “secret” clients book a trip and see if the guide would let him catch more than three…Then see how you like enforcement.
My can of egotistical fantasyworld troll repellent is getting fuller and fuller.
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Originally posted by CaptFritz/what am I thinking, of course you do. My can of trollspray is getting low.
Charleston Fishing’s most hated guide!
So basically what you are saying here is that Robert Wiggers and John Archambault have no integrity. Two of our most knowledgeable, passionate biologists at SCDNR have a hidden agenda to prevent raising the redfish limits. Did you not read my post on enjoying fresh fish weekly? Also, you want to speak of honesty. Who are you and where do you live? Only a wiss with no juevos makes your type of posts and remains anonymous.
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Originally posted by toppyblueI dont hate! I dont live 200 miles from charleston. I have researched the laws and DNR’s resistance to change. Ther is a Major Major difference between an unofficial biased opinion and an officially issued report that requires signatures and accountability…I suspect if there is any hate here it is those that hate to see someone eat the fish that they like to catch…You know exactly what I mean…The more I keep and eat,the less there are for you to "make money"on. If you are not a guide or selfish catch/release guy ,then I apologize to you sir…Otherwise,man up and tell the truth.
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Originally posted by RADDADDYI guess you didn’t take the time to make that phone call. Don’t hate just because you live 200+ miles away.
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Originally posted by toppyblueAll you guys that live inland and go to the coast occasionally for some fresh fish…call your reps and put a stop to this nonsense…There are really abundant reds out there…You deserve some.
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Originally posted by RADDADDYToppy is not an alias or trolling. Sad, but true.
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Hey Fritzy,In spite of your attacks and biased opinion,you seem to indeed be very knowledgeable and helpful to most(as long as they agree with you)…I have a serious question about the size limit for reds. The law as written says between 15 and 23 inches TL(tail fins closed).A friend of mine keeps everything between 15.00 inches and 23.99 inches. He claims that technically and legally the fish is Ok to keep.Since the law does not specifically say 23.00 inches, is he correct?
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Originally posted by CaptFritz/what am I thinking, of course you do. My can of trollspray is getting low.
Charleston Fishing’s most hated guide!
They have hidden population reports…Those guys(DNR) are still pissed off at legislators trying to raise limits without first consulting them. LOOK! you are not dumb or stupid,big government begets big government,those guys want to keep their positions and control.period. If they come out and say the population is doing great,what would happen to their funding???
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Originally posted by RADDADDYSo basically what you are saying here is that Robert Wiggers and John Archambault have no integrity. Two of our most knowledgeable, passionate biologists at SCDNR have a hidden agenda to prevent raising the redfish limits. Did you not read my post on enjoying fresh fish weekly? Also, you want to speak of honesty. Who are you and where do you live? Only a wiss with no juevos makes your type of posts and remains anonymous.
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Originally posted by toppyblueI dont hate! I dont live 200 miles from charleston. I have researched the laws and DNR’s resistance to change. Ther is a Major Major difference between an unofficial biased opinion and an officially issued report that requires signatures and accountability…I suspect if there is any hate here it is those that hate to see someone eat the fish that they like to catch…You know exactly what I mean…The more I keep and eat,the less there are for you to "make money"on. If you are not a guide or selfish catch/release guy ,then I apologize to you sir…Otherwise,man up and tell the truth.
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Originally posted by RADDADDYI guess you didn’t take the time to make that phone call. Don’t hate just because you live 200+ miles away.
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Originally posted by RADDADDY This is your quote: [ "Only a wiss with no juevos makes your type of posts and remains anonymous."I assure you sir,I am far from being a "wiss"(your word for p---y)with no"juevos"(your word for balls).Calling me cowardly names just reinforces the need to expose bullies like you,and that is all you are.Like a spoiled child.quote:
Originally posted by toppyblueI dont hate! I dont live 200 miles from charleston. I have researched the laws and DNR’s resistance to change. Ther is a Major Major difference between an unofficial biased opinion and an officially issued report that requires signatures and accountability…I suspect if there is any hate here it is those that hate to see someone eat the fish that they like to catch…You know exactly what I mean…The more I keep and eat,the less there are for you to "make money"on. If you are not a guide or selfish catch/release guy ,then I apologize to you sir…Otherwise,man up and tell the truth.
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Originally posted by RADDADDYI guess you didn’t take the time to make that phone call. Don’t hate just because you live 200+ miles away.
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Originally posted by toppyblueAll you guys that live inland and go to the coast occasionally for some fresh fish…call your reps and put a stop to this nonsense…There are really abundant reds out there…You deserve some.
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Originally posted by RADDADD
Well…if green jeans catches him with a 23.99 inch redfish, he will certainly get a ticket somewhere in the vacinity of $1000. If he is extremely lucky, he gets caught on the water with the fish in the livewell. Then, green jeans could give him a warning and make him let the fish go. I think that is the wrong interpretation of the 15-23. But in this crazy world, it could probably be contested in court. Personally, I don’t think it would be worth it.
2012 Skeeter ZX22 Bay
Yamaha 250 hp SHO
Minnkota Riptide 101
I knew there was a reason I’ve avoided your threads.
Charleston Fishing’s most hated guide!
I agree with you Skeeter…You probably would win in court.But then Greenjeans would be upset and after your ASSets from then on. The FEDS say 27 inches and the state says 23,Wonder how much tax money has been wasted justifying different size limits??? Seems like all these politicians and college educated DNR guys could be more specific( like equal to or greater than 15 inches and less than or equal to 23 inches). Then there is the tail fin closed thing???I mean who came up with that garbage???Does it make him shorter or longer???or does it depend on fin length and shape???
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Originally posted by Skeeter22Well…if green jeans catches him with a 23.99 inch redfish, he will certainly get a ticket somewhere in the vacinity of $1000. If he is extremely lucky, he gets caught on the water with the fish in the livewell. Then, green jeans could give him a warning and make him let the fish go. I think that is the wrong interpretation of the 15-23. But in this crazy world, it could probably be contested in court. Personally, I don’t think it would be worth it.
2012 Skeeter ZX22 Bay
Yamaha 250 hp SHO
Minnkota Riptide 101
Our fishery could certainly sustain 100,000 fish per year being taken out of it. That math is based on 100 guides keeping 1000 fish per year.
Charleston Fishing’s most hated guide!
Hey Frazzled Fritzy,If you really think all your childish name calling is avoiding my threads you are not only in fantasy land ,you are in a dreamworld.
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Originally posted by CaptFritzI knew there was a reason I’ve avoided your threads.
Charleston Fishing’s most hated guide!
Well,
I didn’t saying anything about winning in court. I just said it could probably be contested. Winning is a whole different story. That would likely depend on how much money your friend has. If he has enough money to fight over 15/16ths of an inch in court, he probably has no reason to keep the fish anyway unless he is just trying to prove a point. I still don’t think something that trivial is worth the money or the effort–redfish are too easy to catch for that silliness.
2012 Skeeter ZX22 Bay
Yamaha 250 hp SHO
Minnkota Riptide 101
Between 15 and 23 not 23 1/2 pretty simple really.
A sharp pocket knife can make a 23 1\2 a 22. No need to cut it close.
I’ll have to agree with flyinghigh on this one. It really is simple. As far as the sharp knife…if a person can’t do something that simple right, they might as well not do it at all. My only reason for concluding it can be contested in court is perhaps/possibly because we have to pinch the tail, there is a slight amount of ambiguity for some people…certainly not all. However, the law does not recognize ignorance of the law either. And, winning in court over the length of a fish is a completely different story than contesting or pleading not guilty. If it is that close for me, I just toss em back. I’ll catch 10 more of those dumb redfish anyway. Truly, the redfish is not all that elusive anyway. It just is not worth the effort.
2012 Skeeter ZX22 Bay
Yamaha 250 hp SHO
Minnkota Riptide 101
Come fish with us on Saturday in the Lowcountry Redfish Cup, Skeeter, to show us how non-elusive and dumb the slot reds are.
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Originally posted by Skeeter22I’ll have to agree with flyinghigh on this one. It really is simple. As far as the sharp knife…if a person can’t do something that simple right, they might as well not do it at all. My only reason for concluding it can be contested in court is perhaps/possibly because we have to pinch the tail, there is a slight amount of ambiguity for some people…certainly not all. However, the law does not recognize ignorance of the law either. And, winning in court over the length of a fish is a completely different story than contesting or pleading not guilty. If it is that close for me, I just toss em back. I’ll catch 10 more of those dumb redfish anyway. Truly, the redfish is not all that elusive anyway. It just is not worth the effort.
2012 Skeeter ZX22 Bay
Yamaha 250 hp SHO
Minnkota Riptide 101
Still no name given…wiss with no juevos.
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Originally posted by toppybluequote:
Originally posted by RADDADDY This is your quote: [ "Only a wiss with no juevos makes your type of posts and remains anonymous."I assure you sir,I am far from being a "wiss"(your word for p---y)with no"juevos"(your word for balls).Calling me cowardly names just reinforces the need to expose bullies like you,and that is all you are.Like a spoiled child.quote:
Originally posted by toppyblueI dont hate! I dont live 200 miles from charleston. I have researched the laws and DNR’s resistance to change. Ther is a Major Major difference between an unofficial biased opinion and an officially issued report that requires signatures and accountability…I suspect if there is any hate here it is those that hate to see someone eat the fish that they like to catch…You know exactly what I mean…The more I keep and eat,the less there are for you to "make money"on. If you are not a guide or selfish catch/release guy ,then I apologize to you sir…Otherwise,man up and tell the truth.
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Originally posted by RADDADDYI guess you didn’t take the time to make that phone call. Don’t hate just because you live 200+ miles away.
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Originally posted by toppyblueAll you guys that live inland and go to the coast occasionally for some fresh fish…call your reps and put a stop to this nonsense…T
RADDADDY,
I’d love too; however, it is a little tough to do it from 10,000 miles away in Okinawa, Japan. I do plan on fishing some of the local tournaments this summer when I get back. But, I will have to say the torunament you are fishing this weekend will be tough. It is going to be tough because of the conditions of the water temps. You know that is true. I will give it to you in one respect, it is much harder to compete in a tournament for slot reds weighing only fractions of an ounce from each other. But, just catching redfish in general is not that hard and you know that too. For most of the year (roughly 7 months or so), any experienced angler worth his salt should not have problems catching a redfish. They really are not that smart. Because of the laws in place now protecting the redfish, there are likley more redfish now than I can ever remeber growing up fishing on the Wando River. Lots of redfish makes it easier to catch them. Back in the old days when the redfish were thin, of course, it was harder to catch them. Even still, they are by far not the smartest fish in the water, and Reds love to eat.
Thanks for the invite. I really do plan on getting invovled in the tournaments when I get back. It should be fun…win, lose, or draw.
2012 Skeeter ZX22 Bay
Yamaha 250 hp SHO
Minnkota Riptide 101
No problem, Skeeter. We will welcome you with open arms when you return. Truth is, numbers of juvenile reds statewide have been WAY down in the last 3 years due to many factors. The spawning population seems to be fairly stable, but the the 2-4 year old year classes have been weak. We did have a decent 1 year old class this year.
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Originally posted by Skeeter22RADDADDY,
I’d love too; however, it is a little tough to do it from 10,000 miles away in Okinawa, Japan. I do plan on fishing some of the local tournaments this summer when I get back. But, I will have to say the torunament you are fishing this weekend will be tough. It is going to be tough because of the conditions of the water temps. You know that is true. For most of the year (roughly 7 months or so), any experienced angler worth his salt should have not problem catching a redfish. They really are not that smart. Because of the laws in place now protecting the redfish, there are likley more redfish now than I can ever remeber growing up fishing on the Wando River. Lots of redfish makes it easier to catch them. Back in the old days when the redfish were thin, of course, it was harder to catch them. Even still, they are by far not the smartest fish in the water, and they love to eat.
Thanks for the invite. I really do plan on getting invovled in the tournaments when I get back. It should be fun…win, lose, or draw.
2012 Skeeter ZX22 Bay
Yamaha 250 hp SHO
Minnkota Riptide 101