The “Management” does not have the autority to grant permission of use for something it doesnt own…plain and simple.
Having a note on a piece of property has nothing to do with ownership…could management give you a key to one of the condos and give you permission to use the condo this weekend because Dick and Jane are out of town until next week??
Southern Comfort
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Dustin Cole Posted - 01/10/2013 : 05:47:57 AM
I NEVR felt a “sense” of entitlement! I WAS pretty much done with this and AM over it, but comments like yours just spark fire. Here’s a scenario: If you were doing utility work on some property that spread over 40 acres and were a hunter, you’d see the occasional sign of deer, hogs, raccoons, etc. Now a guy walks over to you and starts asking you asking how you are, blah blah blah. You eventually start talking about hunting and you find out that the man talking to you owns the property along with a couple other guys. Now, you can lie to me, but you can’t lie to yourself, so TRY to be honest here… He sees how much you’d love to come hunt his property and suggests that anytime you want to, come on out and hunt! Just respect the laws… Would you say no based on your principles that you post so adamantly? I wouldn’t! I was INVITED! Now, another guy walks up while your hunting and you give him a shout or rustle some branches to let him know where you are. He call you out of your stand, blind, what have you and asks you what your doing there and that he is the other owner. What would you say? I can GUARANTEE you wouldn’t say, “Uhh, well, I’m trespassing.” No, you’d tell him the same thing I told the guy on the dock. I WAS INVITED ON. How, in God’s name, was I trespassing?!.. I was GIVEN PERMISSION. And, yes, it was revoked. And, yes, I WAS, bitter. And, honestly, if this were the “family feud” game show, the survey says “BING!” while your answer is on the board, my answer is more popular.</font id=“red”> Have your opinion. I did nothing wrong! I thought I was allowed and iI had no ill intent. That guy WAS a DICK for the way he handled it. NOT the point he was making.
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actually you are wrong again. South Carolina is a lien theory state, not a title theory state. The owner of the condo, even if he has a mortgage on it, still retains the deed for the condo during the loan term. The mortgage becomes a lien against the property and is removed at sale repayment or at payoff but the title remains with the buyer. So technically, the bank doesn’t own the condo in SC, the borrower does with a lien to repay.
Either way, it doesnt matter because the management company doesn’t own any of the units. They are hired by the owners so you were given permission to do something by someone without the authority to do so. The same thing applies as the guy said above. The management company can’t give you permission to stay in a unit either.
Ok… The “You should have KNOWN you weren’t in the right even though you were given permission” crowd - you know, all FOUR of you - is starting to make me out to feel like a criminal somehow. Here’s my side… I was given permission to fish by someone I THOUGHT had the authority. Turns out they didn’t. I left the dock, PEACEFULLY. I have not returned. I do not intend on returning. I SIMPLY THOUGHT I was given permission by someone who had the authority to grant it. I did nothing wrong. I’m not now, nor have I ever trespassed. I’m not gonna spray-paint vulgar crap on the dock or vandalize it. I don’t feel bitter about NOT BEING ALLOWED TO FISH THERE. I just thought it could’ve been explained to me by the individual who had issue with it. I ADMIT MY NAIVETY. I’m not a criminal. I was somewhere I thought I was allowed to be. I don’t drive around town with a pole in my truck looking for private property to invade. I have a boat if I really wanted to take my son, but he’s just too young to be on the kind of boat I operate. I just like quiet places where my child doesn’t have to be introduced to trashy drug addicts, drunks or people who use foul language because they can’t hold an intellectual conversation without an F-bomb 3 times in a sentence. In retrospect, this post was a bad topic. I REALLY didn’t mean for it to get heated. I wanted opinions as to whether I was in the right or the wrong by using - what I thought - was a privilege granted to me and ended up on the receiving end of bitter property owners who have been taken advantage of. I understand everyones point and have agreed with those who see my point and even those who oppose it. I am so non-confrontational, but this topic has made me believe that there are just hateful people out there who want nothing to do with their fellow neighbor. There is no camaraderie anymore. A simple man is not welcome around the wealthy. I want you all to know that myself and my boat, while wimpy and humble, will guide ANYONE home who may need it and I am open to ANYONE who w
I agree with this!
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Originally posted by dssmithThe thread has pretty much run it’s course. The original post wondered if he should be “bitter” at the gun that supposedly ran him and his kid off.
I do not think you should feel bitter. Disappointed, mad maybe, but that’s about it. Whether you did or didn’t have everyone’s permission, you and your child were there as guests. No matter how many times prior or whatever the former circumstances. Guest privileges can and often are subject to change and revoking for little or no reasons. Some of the posters (Palmetto Bug, et. al) have raised some very salient points.
My neighbor and I share a dock. Each have a floating dock on a tidal creek. The docks have a long walkway (over 500’) It is just about the nicest place in the lowcountry. Just beautiful
You can’t imagine the number of people that trespass on my dock. My neighbor had his kicker motor stolen a month ago. Runners, just extending their run, local walkers, people in the neighborhood. Some of the neighbors have allowed their little kids out there without supervision. There’s a hell of a current when the tide is falling!!
When I go to see what they are doing, they ask…Is this your dock? It sure is nice out here! etc etc.
What they don’t seem to consider is they are essentially trespassing in my back. I live in one of the nicest and most expensive neighborhoods in the area. So the point is, it doesn’t take unwashed masses to take advantage of private property rights. And, of course, I’m a real bad guy if I run off the neighborhood kids. I’ve had to put up ugly no trespassing signs on my own property just as a pre-emptive liability act.
Anyway, my contribution is this. Don’t make private property owners the bad guys for asserting rights and responsibility over their own property. Even if you are “just fishing with a little kid.”
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Right?! Lol!
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Originally posted by heartofthesunwow
hoa runs the show
That’s why they call it fishing, not catching…
Unreal… I said FACILITIES!!! Not condos man! You make NO sense… Here are some examples: The pool. The dock. The barbecue area. The business office. THOSE are maintained by the MANAGEMENT. Did you eat paint chips as a kid?..
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Originally posted by Southern ComfortThe “Management” does not have the autority to grant permission of use for something it doesnt own…plain and simple.
Having a note on a piece of property has nothing to do with ownership…could management give you a key to one of the condos and give you permission to use the condo this weekend because Dick and Jane are out of town until next week??
Southern Comfort
That’s why they call it fishing, not catching…
Y’all can run on or let it go. As for me, I am officially and finally DONE! This has aged me by a year… I hope you hateful SOBs don’t believe in karma. Enjoy life, everyone!
That’s why they call it fishing, not catching…
Hell yes!! When, where and how much?! I assume I’ll have to pay to come out and eat someone else’s oyster?.. Lol! Very interested! Please post info?..
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Originally posted by Bonzo72y’all come to the CF oyster roast and hug it out…
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That’s why they call it fishing, not catching…
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Dustin Cole Posted - 01/10/2013 : 3:56:19 PM
Unreal… I said FACILITIES!!! Not condos man! You make NO sense… Here are some examples: The pool. The dock. The barbecue area. The business office. THOSE are maintained by the MANAGEMENT. Did you eat paint chips as a kid?..
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Look here sport…You are doing nothing more than showing your ignorance right now…
the facilities are still owned by…
Wait for it…
THE PROPERTY OWNERS! Not a management company…they manage the facilities that someone else owns…hence the reason they are called “MANAGEMENT” companies instead of “OWNERSHIP” companies!
Here’s a couple of suggestions…keep working hard so that you can afford these types of things that you feel as though you are are entitled to and try not to raise those kids to be a democrat like their Daddy…
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Dustin Cole Posted - 01/10/2013 : 3:44:10 PM
Ok… The “You should have KNOWN you weren’t in the right even though you were given permission” crowd - you know, all FOUR of you - is starting to make me out to feel like a criminal somehow. Here’s my side… I was given permission to fish by someone I THOUGHT had the authority. Turns out they didn’t. I left the dock, PEACEFULLY. I have not returned. I do not intend on returning.
And FWIW, I wasn’t saying “you should have known better”…I am saying don’t come onto a public forum crying because somebody told you that you were wrong and were somewhere you didn’t have
I keep falling into this argument which makes me an idiot…I admit, I know nothing about gated communities or HOAs. My wife handles that **** because I can’t stand a bunch of uppity people who determine what I can’t have in my fenced-in backyard. I am ignorant on a lot of issues… Incase you can’t grasp what’s happening here I am ADMITTING fault and ignorance, tiger…I don’t identify with democrats. I was born and raised deep southern republican, sport. My family’s roots in the south run deeper than the Angel Oak, kiddo. Listen, guy, I WAS upset with that guy. Why? Who really cares? It was MY emotion at the time. No REAL man wants to perform a walk of shame in front on his son/daughter/wife/mom/dad, and frankly, he went about it the wrong way as a MAN, but the RIGHT way as a stuck-up, snooty asshole. I grew up in the country. Round-O/Jacksonboro to be exact and I never had to deal with issues like this. Everybody knows EVERYBODY! There was never an individual - elderly or young, Democrat or Republican - that ran kids off from a little fun. If you messed something up you fixed it or did yard work to pay for it. You live in an paranoid delusional world where everyone is out to get you and your money/property. Lock your doors! Their coming for you. Me personally, I don’t care if you’re Bill F***ing Gates. You aren’t better than any other man/woman in this world, brother. I leave you with a quote ~
Be careful to leave your sons well instructed rather than rich, for the hopes of the instructed are better than the wealth of the ignorant. ~ Epictetus
That’s why they call it fishing, not catching…
I just like quiet places where my child doesn’t have to be introduced to trashy drug addicts, drunks or people who use foul language because they can’t hold an intellectual conversation without an F-bomb 3 times in a sentence
And let me tell you something, Southern Comfort, I don’t know you and I hope to NEVER run into you, but to blame our Countries problems on issues like this make you look like a Fing idiot
I don’t care if you’re Bill Fing Gates
Thats quotes above. Not me speaking. I say shoot and dog gone it.
Man Dustin, you done dropped 2 f-bombs already…haha, chill out, get a Sun-Drop, grab your rod/reel and kid and go fish. He’ll be grown up before you know it and you’ll be an ol’ man and can’t remember where you fished yesterday and much less a pier you got run off from in 2013!
1900 Tidewater
115 Yamaha
“Stress Relief”
Lol… Good point.
I TRY not to swear! It comes out easily when I’m worn out over an argument though. Here’s to a prosperous 2013! 
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Originally posted by MX217I just like quiet places where my child doesn’t have to be introduced to trashy drug addicts, drunks or people who use foul language because they can’t hold an intellectual conversation without an F-bomb 3 times in a sentence
And let me tell you something, Southern Comfort, I don’t know you and I hope to NEVER run into you, but to blame our Countries problems on issues like this make you look like a Fing idiot
I don’t care if you’re Bill Fing Gates
Thats quotes above. Not me speaking. I say shoot and dog gone it.Man Dustin, you done dropped 2 f-bombs already…haha, chill out, get a Sun-Drop, grab your rod/reel and kid and go fish. He’ll be grown up before you know it and you’ll be an ol’ man and can’t remember where you fished yesterday and much less a pier you got run off from in 2013!
1900 Tidewater
115 Yamaha
“Stress Relief”
That’s why they call it fishing, not catching…
Dustin, I think that you maybe misunderstanding what some of us were saying. I think it is great you are taking your kids fishing. I understand that someone gave you permission to fish that you thought had the authority to do so and thought you were not trespassing. I dont think you were doing anything wrong. I dont think anyone thinks you are a criminal, a low life, etc.
The only thing I was trying to point out was that you got upset that you got asked to leave a private dock by a property owner and you came on here and asked what type of lowlife would do that. All I was trying to say was, he ins’t a lowlife and you really don’t have any grounds to be upset on. Nothing you did was your fault but you cant get mad when people who own private property ask someone who has no right to be there to leave. You did not know that you were not supposed to be there. You thought it was ok for you to be there because someone that should not have given you access to the place did. When you found out that you were not supposed to be there and got asked to leave, I am sure you were pissed and embarrassed, which in understandable.
All most of us were trying to do was just point out facts of the situation. It doesn’t make the guy that asked you to leave a snotty rich guy or a mean person. It is just simply his place and not yours. He has ever right to ask you to leave, just as you would if someone showed up on your property. I think you are trying to separate the two because this is a condo area with common areas instead of a single family home. It is his personal right. You wouldn’t just walk out of some guys dock where you friend cut the grass without the owners permission right? This is the same thing. The management company takes care of cutting the grass, among other things. The guy may have been rude to you in how he handled it, which I do not agree with, the idea of asking to you leave is not wrong. It is his right. As a republican, I would think you would agree with that. He didnt have to be an ass about it, but he
Wh gives a ****? Find somewhere else to fish