What do they call that weather thing again??
OH YEAH… NOAA.
Check the forecast next time and don’t go if the seas are that big. Lisa and the crew at the Thunderstar are awesome and will always re-schedule you if things are ugly…
Mac
“Mess with the best… get hooked like the rest!”
“Why’s it gotta be this way?”
22’ Angler WA / 16’ Key Largo CC
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Originally posted by Harris EckstromI thought all waves were caused by wind and other boats no matter where you are, of coarse the oceantic waves are not steady boat waves, so that means the waves cause by wind are the only concern out there… what are your thoughts?
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Originally posted by saltydog235110’ Bote and you were sick? Stay on the lakes and rivers where waves are caused by wind and other boats. Don’t ***** about your little fishing adventure, it is called fishing not catching. By the way, it is December, and you are on the Atlantic. Are you an idiot or do you not realize that that means really uncomfortable conditions may exist. Next time find a pond, stand on the bank, and cast your zebco 33 out with a cork and cricket.
Mark
Mako 262
You ain’t got no legs Lt. Dan
Harry Sea. Thats how I roll.
The ocean’s very different. The ocean state depends on the pressure, the currents, the tides, temperatures… all sorts of things. The main thing is that a lake/pond is protected. If you are talking about a big enough lake like lake Michigan or something, then you’re faced with conditions being changed by fronts coming in.
But for instance… if the wind has been blowing out of the south for a few days, this could make the waves be larger but more spread out, given the right other conditions. But, when you all of a sudden have the wind shift to a strong one out of the north, the wind will be hitting all the remaining energy of those swells still coming out of the south. What happens is the sea becomes confused or the seas become really steep, which cause a boa
I realize that, but waves are caused by wind. speed, direction, fetch, and time period. the steepness(mainly effected by water depth) and period is effected by those other factors.
Harry Sea. Thats how I roll.
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Originally posted by Harris EckstromI realize that, but waves are caused by wind. speed, direction, fetch, and time period. the steepness(mainly effected by water depth) and period is effected by those other factors.
Harry Sea. Thats how I roll.
My point was not so much that what creates the surface conditions on the ocean compared to a pond were any different in principle- it was that the margin of error is much greater with the ocean because of how many different factors change the ocean and how greatly the ocean varies throughout the year. We also have a larger margin with the ocean knowing that it can be anywhere from flat calm to 30 footers in a matter of hours versus the worst thing on a big pond being steep 1 footers.
What we’re talking about in this thread is the margin of error, and what I mentioned are all the things that can cause you to be on the wrong side of that margin more often than not when it comes to the ocean. Not only that, but you’re more affected by being on the wrong side of the margin in the ocean vs. the lake. That was what I was trying to bring up when you implied that ocean waves and pond waves were the same.
Luke 8:22-25
I see where your coming from phin. I just wanted to give salty dog a hard time for being such an ass for no reason to that other guy…
Harry Sea. Thats how I roll.
ground swells are not caused by wind either. There are many factors to take into consideration other than just wind. Full moon tides usually make it pretty nasty around the mouth of inlets, especailly when the current and wind are going in the opposite direction.
at the 41004 buoy waves were 5-6, steep to very steep, and winds were less than 20knots on 12/1. for winter conditions that isn’t too shabby… i would expect the tstar to fish every day like that… although i couldn’t imagine how nasty that puke stench must have been.
WTB: 31 Contender
http://www.weatherunderground.com/MAR/buoy/2007/12/1/41004.html
You might wanna learn how to judge weather a little better, nothing over 6.2 ft, and i don’t see a problem in that type of weather. You might wanna take some meds, check the weather, and toughen up or don’t go.
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Most charters will let you reschedule for later within reason. Just no refund on money spent. T-star has been good to me in the past. That boat take rough water well. We had a trip on a Sat with 4-6’. Was rough but, ok and we caught fish. Did hit a storm on way back with 10’ers for real. Not fun but, can happen anytime. The next day boat was not full and we got invatation to go again. Calling for 5-7’. We had a party of about 10. Most went back but, me and better half did not. They slayed the fish even though it was rougher. Some people continue to fish even if sick. IMO it’s better than going below deck. Dramamine and patches are made for that. Call and ask them next time.
You take that chance in spring and fall with the weather. BTW - people blowing their groceries always happens. We had about 20% sick the day with 4-6’ and about 30%+ the next day. Just stay out on deck and avoid the smell. We had 3 or 4 that got sick before we got out the jetties the last time I went. Had 10-15 sick once and the stream was like glass. Go figure. 
Just part of party boat fishing. They do cancel if really rough.
J Ford
J16 cc Carolina Skiff “Hydro Therapy”
110’ Bote and you were sick? Stay on the lakes and rivers where waves are caused by wind and other boats. Don’t ***** about your little fishing adventure, it is called fishing not catching. By the way, it is December, and you are on the Atlantic. Are you an idiot or do you not realize that that means really uncomfortable conditions may exist. Next time find a pond, stand on the bank, and cast your zebco 33 out with a cork and cricket.
Mark
Mako 262
You ain’t got no legs Lt. Dan
■■■■, sounds like somebody pissed in your corn flakes.
The older I get, the better I was.
Call me crazy, but when trolling, drifting, or anchored I would much rather be on a boat 30’ or less. The motion on larger boats gets to me for some reason…the slower up and down. I guess I just like the action of the smaller boats. Now as far as the ride out and back in, well…
How come the guy who was in the mens room for two hours
is not complaining?
kelsea,Just guessing, he probably does not own a computer. Another possibility is that he is still sick blowing chunks locked in his mothers bathroom and unable to post…
Too bad you had a rough day. I would not hold it against the crew though.
I fished that boat a few times and I have always been happy with them.
Don’t blame me! I voted for Jeff Davis!
if you are willing to pay to go on the boat, make sure you understand marine conditions as the ocean is not disneyland and your fun ride is not guaranteed.