“the value of a full scholarship and direct support services at Purdue has a value in excess of $250,000. Plus, student-athletes with a full scholarship have no loan to pay back, an expense that could run upwards of $200,000 at Purdue”
I’d be OK with an extra $100 or so a month stipend but pay for play as they said has no part in CFB.
I agree. A stipend is the best way to handle it. but it has to be enough for the poor kids to at least have a relatively normal life.
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Originally posted by Fishb8I agree. A stipend is the best way to handle it. but it has to be enough for the poor kids to at least have a relatively normal life.
You do know that football players are kings on campus right?
If you think one of them pays for their own drinks at the club, you best think again. 
23,
I realize that. And there is nothing you can do about other buying drinks. But if you give these kids some money to help, it COULD help alleviate some of the pressures.
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When I was at Clemson and went out the football players were always there and they didn’t ever seem to be under any pressure. They had their own place on campus where they ate and they didn’t have to eat the same slop we were getting in the cafeterias. They are glorified as athletes their entire lives and that didn’t stop when they started college, I can assure you of that. The loop where their dorm was located was always filled with new cars and Escalades (the popular vehicle at that time). The kids going there that had to take a loan out or somehow qualified for some financial aid and has to maintain a B average to keep that money or the kids having to work a job to help pay for tuition, books, housing, meals, etc. are the ones under pressure. Are there any walk-ons that are doing that and playing? Probably, but those players know if they really have the talent or not. Most work their a$$ off just be on the practice squad, but that is a decision they had to make for themselves. With all that said, I don’t begrudge those players for getting the perks and accolades while they are there. The football teal is the identity of the school for most of the people there. I am happy for those players, but lets not get overly or needlessly compassionate about some struggles that just aren’t there. Everyone is going to cry poor mouth if they think they will get money from it. For those that say, I played a sport and it was hard. Were you a high profile football player? That is what we are talking about here. I understand that other athletes for other sports have a hard time balancing their money and schedules, but again you knew that was what it was going to take before you made the decision. JMO
The pressure I am talking about is the pressure to take the freebies. IF they are catch, they lose big. Maybe if your family qualifies for financial assistance then you are eligible for a stipend.
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I saw an interesting proposal yesterday. It seems like whenever someone suggests paying players, invariably people blather on about how a scholarship is enough and they should be happy with that and blah blah blah (completely disregarding the fact that a scholarship is worth a fraction of some of these player’s value, but I digress).
So why not let, say, Clowney pay his own way? Why can’t he sign some autographs and do some commercials and that be OK as long as he pays tuition, room and board, etc. out of his own pocket?
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Originally posted by 23SailfishAmateur vs. Professional as defined by the NCAA.
That’s why.
Obviously. The question was posed as “why not” not “is this true.”
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Originally posted by 23SailfishAmateur vs. Professional as defined by the NCAA.
That’s why.
Obviously. The question was posed as “why not” not “is this true.” I thought it was pretty clear from this and the word “proposal” that it was meant to open discussion about what the rules should be. You know, the whole point of this thread.
I think of it this way… D-1 football player on scholly gets 1) free 4 years of education 2) Meals (all you can freakin eat)for 4 years 3) some of the best personal training available to any athlete for 4 years 4) free tutoring for 4 years 5) free clothing and whatever else they give them for bowl games, etc. 6) free accommodations for 4 years. 7) free family tickets to games for 4 years 8) if they do thier school work, a lifetime of opportunities in the work place with a 4 year ( free) degree.
My question for all these cry babies is this… What has your family had to shell out for you to go to college? Why can’t they give you some spending cash for movies and extra food that for some reason you can’t get on campus? BS. They are being treated like kings on campus. Nobody put a gun to the head of Clowney or anyone else who CHOOSES to sign on the dotted line. They agree to all that comes with it when THEY CHOOSE to play the game. It’s really hard to take this crap when you are paying tuition for your kid to go to college and they legitimately have no money to restock the fridge. Cry me a river.
The point you are missing is that without a scholarship MANY of these kids would not even go to school, period. MANY of these kids families have NO MONEY unless the govt gives it to them.
Walk down to the projects, find they most talented kid there. The one with no dad. A mom that lives of govt support. That is the kid that doesn’t have spending cash.
BTW:
#1, 3 and 8 are the same thing. 5 only happens if your team is good. 125 D1 teams. tons more in D2.
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quote:Exactly..public school is free. There are people that legitimately have no extra money.
Originally posted by Fishb8The point you are missing is that without a scholarship MANY of these kids would not even go to school, period. MANY of these kids families have NO MONEY unless the govt gives it to them.
Walk down to the projects, find they most talented kid there. The one with no dad. A mom that lives of govt support. That is the kid that doesn’t have spending cash.
BTW:
#1, 3 and 8 are the same thing. 5 only happens if your team is good. 125 D1 teams. tons more in D2.You ain’t drunk, till you’re Tickle drunk
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Regardless of any of said facts, in some cases (big D1 schools) the gain to the school far outweighs the cost of the scholarship. For example Alabama profits$45,000,000, USC $23 million, Clemson $13.7 million per year from the football program. You can’t look at those numbers honestly and say that some of those kids aren’t being taken advantage of, especially when you take into account the declining value of a college degree.
On the flip side, there is logically no way to make any pay for play situation fair. Some schools can’t afford it, others can afford it and way more.