Basmaster Elites making the LONG run

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Originally posted by CaptFritz

Well in that case, blowing by busy marina entrances is fine. Carry on.

'it’s fine for all of the guides to do it- so why not the bass pros- is it an official no wake zone ?
if not- what’s the problem.

Down here is where a signature goes but they can confuse and anger some people so I don’t have one.


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Originally posted by RADDADDY

It’s turning out to be one of the worst venues for a BASS event. 10 pounds a day will cut a huge check. I wonder how much money Georgetown is throwing at these tournament circuits. Next week is a Southern Redfish Cup (50-75 boats). The week after is a SC CBC bass tourney with 125+ boats (normally there would be 175+). After that is an IFA Redfish Tour. Where are all these people supposed to stay?


Raddaddy not sure what you are calling a poor event . Every angler that I have spoken too loves it . It has leveled the playing field,and everyone has a plenty of places to stay. Charleston isn’t the only place in this state that has fish. The river levels up here are still affected by all the water we had the end of the year and 1st of this year but its turning out to be a great tournament.

21 pound bag for Britt Meyers on Friday and Kelly Jordan had a 24lb bag I don’t know how much ya’ll watch these tournaments but those are very good bags for any area except for Florida and Cali.

Not true Raddaddy, the could be dropped off in the headwaters which isn’t that far , but they are taking them up black river .

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Originally posted by RADDADDY

I hope they didn’t release them in the Sampit river! If so, instant death.

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Originally posted by friogatto

SCDNR should not have allowed this and the permitting should not have been approved.
100+ mile suicide runs at 70+ mph down the ICW? Safety First I guess.

Another problem is each boat is pulling 5 of the biggest bass they can catch from our waters and transporting them to Georgetown.
30 boats yesterday, 40 boats today.
That’s 350 of the best fish the “best” fisherman can catch being transplanted to Georgetown.



Referring to Rad’s comment about the CBC tournament after the Elite Series, I want to know where he got his information. He said the CBC would normally have 175+ boats and that there will “only” be 125+ boats attending. Of the two SC CBC Division tournaments held this year (Wateree and Santee), neither have hit 175 boats. Wateree had 132 teams and Santee had 128 teams so if the Sampit draws 125 boats, that would be right around what they’ve been drawing. Granted, the NC division is drawing larger fields but the comments were made about the SC division of the CBC.

In the future, where every stranger poses a potential threat, knowing the predator mindset is the only safe haven.

Xpress H20B Bay Series
Yamaha 115 SHO

http://www.bassmaster.com/video/bassmaster-live-elite-winyah-bay

Day 2 definitely ended up way better than day 1, but 17 lbs. in my book is pretty weak to make the cut. Like I asked earlier, where are they staying?

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Originally posted by mtodd

Raddaddy not sure what you are calling a poor event . Every angler that I have spoken too loves it . It has leveled the playing field,and everyone has a plenty of places to stay. Charleston isn’t the only place in this state that has fish. The river levels up here are still affected by all the water we had the end of the year and 1st of this year but its turning out to be a great tournament.


davy hite stayed in the pluff mud for a couple hours yesterday.

http://www.bassmaster.com/video/davy-hite-stuck-mud-misses-weigh

Well, one of our top state fisheries biologists must be an idiot.
It’s really easy to have lots of experience and results as an alias, and I love how you skirted around the question as to your experience in the Winyah Bay area. Also, where is your data on bass survival when being caught from low salinity waters then released into basically a marine environment? Local bass clubs use Campbell landing all the time. Wouldn’t you think the Sampit would have a decent population of bass with all the releases being right there. We will see how many anglers chose to fish the Sampit. Also, please show me where I lumped all bass fishing organizations together? I said SOME circuits do a poor job keeping fish alive during weigh-ins. It’s plain common sense to understand bass can’t survive long in 2-3 gallons of water over extended time periods. You seem to be the expert here. What is the release mortality on bass with and without revival tanks? Also, what is the primary reason for overall winning tournament weights being greatly diminished all over the country over the past 25 years? Knowledge is easily accessible, the learning curve is shorter, and equipment is better, but weights keep dropping.

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Originally posted by archer
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Originally posted by RADDADDY

How much experience do you have fishing from the Sampit River area? I’m sure none. If you have fished tournaments as you say you have, you KNOW certain circuits do a poor job of keeping fish alive. Bottom line-you are a poser. Those of us that actually participate know the deal.

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Originally posted by archer

I’d love to see the data to support the fish kill from these tourna

Did you look at LAST year’s SC CBC numbers at Wateree and Murray? If it is a decent venue and time of year, people will come.

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Originally posted by archer

Referring to Rad’s comment about the CBC tournament after the Elite Series, I want to know where he got his information. He said the CBC would normally have 175+ boats and that there will “only” be 125+ boats attending. Of the two SC CBC Division tournaments held this year (Wateree and Santee), neither have hit 175 boats. Wateree had 132 teams and Santee had 128 teams so if the Sampit draws 125 boats, that would be right around what they’ve been drawing. Granted, the NC division is drawing larger fields but the comments were made about the SC division of the CBC.

In the future, where every stranger poses a potential threat, knowing the predator mindset is the only safe haven.

Xpress H20B Bay Series
Yamaha 115 SHO


Yes, I know how the archive function on the CBC website works but why would I worry about last year’s numbers? There are far more factors than simply the venue and time of year that impact tournament turnout and those vary from year to year so this year’s numbers are the only relevant numbers.

As a tournament angler, once you decide to fish a specific tournament series or trail, you fish every tournament on that trail’s schedule. Most have regional and even national level tournaments that require you to fish the regular season tournaments (qualifiers) to qualify for the regional/national tournaments. Given the SC CBC only has four qualifiers, fishing them all increases your chances of qualifying for their “CBC Classic.” So if you’re a tournament angler, time of year and venue doesn’t matter.

In the future, where every stranger poses a potential threat, knowing the predator mindset is the only safe haven.

Xpress H20B Bay Series
Yamaha 115 SHO

Sorry Rad, I didn’t see your other diatribe before I posted. But having just choked it down, it’s pretty clear to see there’s no measure of experience that you will be bothered with acknowledging unless I provided published documentation with my name on it to back up my claims and since I’ve published none and could give two square craps if you know me by anything other than my “alias,” I guess I’ve reached my limits of forced communication with the likes of you.

For the record, you’re the only one that called one of the state’s “top fish biologists” an idiot. But I’m sure that will be somebody else’s fault too. Sorry son, but I’m afraid you’re going to have to find someone else to antagonize on this topic because I’ve lost enough brain cells talking with you. Feel free to comment after this and strut about proving me wrong and how I ran because I didn’t have hard evidence to support my claims. For the record it’s buried under the hard evidence you provided. Sorry your life is so boring that you have to play Internet tough guy. Don’t worry though, God still loves you.

In the future, where every stranger poses a potential threat, knowing the predator mindset is the only safe haven.

Xpress H20B Bay Series
Yamaha 115 SHO

thanks for killing the thread Archer.

I caught the same number of Tarpon as wiggs last season. I will trounce him this year.

I don’t understand what’s wrong with having an opinion and standing behind it while everyone knows exactly who you are. I think you grossly misinterpreted my posts before your insinuations of me being a left wing animal rights activist. This couldn’t be further from the truth. I apologize for the poser remark. I derive income from the fishing lure market and am strongly behind tournament circuits (redfish or bass) when sustainability of the resource and safety are of the utmost importance. Tournament bass fishing directly drives the lure market, and the concept of tournaments is not the problem. It’s the execution during weigh ins that sometimes causes needless mortality; especially the smaller circuits with no revival tanks. I am confident NOBODY knows the exact amount of mortality rates associated with tournament releases in the best of conditions. As more factors stack against a species, mortality will increase. I understand simple biology, and relocating any species between 2 totally different salinity environments can’t help survival rates. THERE IS NO DATA that supports or condemns what is going on in G-Town right now. It’s a very unique place. With no data, it’s all opinion, and you are entitled to your own.

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Originally posted by archer

Sorry Rad, I didn’t see your other diatribe before I posted. But having just choked it down, it’s pretty clear to see there’s no measure of experience that you will be bothered with acknowledging unless I provided published documentation with my name on it to back up my claims and since I’ve published none and could give two square craps if you know me by anything other than my “alias,” I guess I’ve reached my limits of forced communication with the likes of you.

For the record, you’re the only one that called one of the state’s “top fish biologists” an idiot. But I’m sure that will be somebody else’s fault too. Sorry son, but I’m afrai

http://basscam.bassmaster.com/detail/videos/winyah-bay-2016/video/4836638174001/jocumsen-s-wild-ride-to-glory?autoStart=true

go to 1:30ish and watch the ride

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Originally posted by PeaPod

thanks for killing the thread Archer.

I caught the same number of Tarpon as wiggs last season. I will trounce him this year.


HaHa!! Sorry Pea. I wouldn’t sweat it though. I’m sure another target will be identified soon enough and it will be game on again.

In the future, where every stranger poses a potential threat, knowing the predator mindset is the only safe haven.

Xpress H20B Bay Series
Yamaha 115 SHO

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Originally posted by PeaPod

http://basscam.bassmaster.com/detail/videos/winyah-bay-2016/video/4836638174001/jocumsen-s-wild-ride-to-glory?autoStart=true

go to 1:30ish and watch the ride


Volunteer to be a spotter they said, it will be fun they said.....Guy will never do that again.

Down here is where a signature goes but they can confuse and anger some people so I don’t have one.

Summertime south wind and an outgoing on the Wando/Harbor will beat you worse than that. Sheesh. I’ve done it in a go fast sled a handful of times…no fun but they are fishing for BIG bucks. They ain’t out there playing patty cake and everyone is aware of the situ beforehand.

BASS does a good job with fish care. Had two release pontoons there today. Not sure where they released, but it is in their best interest to care for those fish. I know some inshore circuits that do ALOT less.

Most of the guys, except (apparently) Davy Hite, ran their rigs down the AIWW and Harbor w/o incident. They are pros and their top-line boats can handle the conditions. Zipping down the AIWW at 70 in a rug rocket throws a heck of a lot less wake than a trawler or a sporty pushing through.

Great event in Georgetown today. Very large crowd. Lots of fun…never thought I’d see the day with those guys coming thru the salt to get to the large lippas. KInd of weird…but in a good way IMO. Exciting.