Black Sea Bass Alternative Decision

Saltwater Offshore Discussion
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Last night 5/7 from 6-7:30 there was a public invited webinar on Amendment 19 which is the current management proposals for Black Sea Bass that will be considered by the South Atlantic Fishery Management Council on May 13th.

There are three alternatives being considered for management based on the current new BSB stock assessment which came back very positive.

Here is a link to the SAFMC power point that was presented last evening;

http://www.safmc.net/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=myqozhZPKno%3D&tabid=778

I believe that it is very informative presentation and shows the three alternatives clearly.

Written comments on amendment 19 are due by 5pm May 10th and a final decision will be made by council members on May 13th during this first ever special webinar meeting in order to get this decision to the Secretary of Commerce in time for it to be in affect by the start date of June 1st 2013 of the BSB fishing season.

I encourage each and everyone of you that finds this species (BSB) important to them to write a comment based on your feelings of which alternative (1,2,or 3) would be best.

This should be something personal so look at it closely and undertand and remember all the measures that have been put into place for BSB over the past several years. The snapper grouper AP did not see some of the new slides added to this presentation and I feel like this is very informative and gives a clear picture of the proposals.

Your input into this matter is very important and can make a difference in what the next three years of BSB management will look like!

Thanks!

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thank you.

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Informative presentation. Comments sent.

21’ Hydra-Sports Yamaha F200
16’ G3 Yamaha F50

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Mark, In your opinion what’s the better of the 3 for recreation fisherman?

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They probably won’t like what I sent but was honest in my opinion about our current BSB fiasco.

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Sent them an email.

26 Seahunt
Angler’s Dream

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Thanks for the update, comment in route.

Polar 23CC

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gives a little more incite on the SAFMC’s view point on nothing being scientific but guessing at things. How can you possible get an accurate measure of recreational fish harvests? Never once in my life coming off shore have I been checked for what I’ve caught. Inshore and fresh water a bunch, but never offshore. I’ve even been on some head boats and never once been checked.

No documented cases of Whale entrapment, but they stop pots because they could pose a risk?

The old saying that a report/chart writer will always write it in their favor comes to mind.

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I urge you to tell the South Atlantic Fishery Management Council today that you support black sea bass annual catch limit Alternative 2 in Snapper-Grouper Amendment 19.

The written comment period for Amendment 19 will end this Friday, May 10th at 5 pm.

Send comments via email to SGRegAm19Comments@safmc.net

The SAFMC will consider these comments at a special webinar meeting next Monday, May 13th at 1 pm to decide a new black sea bass ACL. To comment at the public hearing during the meeting, register at this webinar link: https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/203788962

I urge fishermen to speak out on this issue as soon as possible, because the differences in the ACL alternatives are dramatic as to the amount of fish that can be landed.

Heres a link to an explanation of the amendment alternatives:
http://www.safmc.net/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=myqozhZPKno%3D&tabid=784

Alternative 2 is based on the acceptable biological catch (ABC) recommendations from the councils Scientific and Statistical Committee (SSC). The SSCs ABC recommendations have been calculated using the SSCs ABC control rule, which factors in scientific uncertainty in the stock assessment information and stock status.

The SSCs ABC recommendations are considered very conservative.

These are the Alternative 2 ACLs for black sea bass based on the SSC recommended ABCs (whole weight):
2013 = 2.133 million lbs.
2014 = 1.992 million lbs.
2015 = 1.814 million lbs.

The reason the recommended ACLs decline is because there are excess fish over and above the stock biomass that can produce the maximum sustainable yield (MSY).

In other words, not only is the black sea bass stock rebuilt, there are extra fish.

Alternative 2 allows fishermen to benefit from these extra fish, while still constraining the catch with a conservative ACL calculation that is consistent with the SAFMCs own ACL control rule for black sea bass and the SSCs acceptable biological catch recommendations.

Under Alternative 2, over the three yea

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Sent email

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Imagine that…Those rocket surgeons over at the SAFMC have come to the conclusion that the seabass are not only rebuilt, but there are “extra” fish. I am so glad that they closed down a viable fishery, killed a commercial fishery, and crippled the bottom charter industry, just to be able to say “Look what we did for YOU”. They are by far some of the most arrogant people in power out there. Good luck with the crumbs they want to give you…I will still be fishing.

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NMFS = No More Fishing Season

“Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him”

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Done. Tight Lines

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Done. Tight Lines

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Done. Tight Lines

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Done. Tight Lines

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Originally posted by capt.markbrown

I urge you to tell the South Atlantic Fishery Management Council today that you support black sea bass annual catch limit Alternative 2 in Snapper-Grouper Amendment 19.

The written comment period for Amendment 19 will end this Friday, May 10th at 5 pm.

Send comments via email to SGRegAm19Comments@safmc.net

The SAFMC will consider these comments at a special webinar meeting next Monday, May 13th at 1 pm to decide a new black sea bass ACL. To comment at the public hearing during the meeting, register at this webinar link: https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/203788962

I urge fishermen to speak out on this issue as soon as possible, because the differences in the ACL alternatives are dramatic as to the amount of fish that can be landed.

Heres a link to an explanation of the amendment alternatives:
http://www.safmc.net/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=myqozhZPKno%3D&tabid=784

Alternative 2 is based on the acceptable biological catch (ABC) recommendations from the councils Scientific and Statistical Committee (SSC). The SSCs ABC recommendations have been calculated using the SSCs ABC control rule, which factors in scientific uncertainty in the stock assessment information and stock status.

The SSCs ABC recommendations are considered very conservative.

These are the Alternative 2 ACLs for black sea bass based on the SSC recommended ABCs (whole weight):
2013 = 2.133 million lbs.
2014 = 1.992 million lbs.
2015 = 1.814 million lbs.

The reason the recommended ACLs decline is because there are excess fish over and above the stock biomass that can produce the maximum sustainable yield (MSY).

In other words, not only is the black sea bass stock rebuilt, there are extra fish.

Alternative 2 allows fishermen to benefit from these extra fish, while still constraining the catch with a conservative ACL calculation that

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Originally posted by capehorn 16
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Originally posted by capt.markbrown

I urge you to tell the South Atlantic Fishery Management Council today that you support black sea bass annual catch limit Alternative 2 in Snapper-Grouper Amendment 19.

The written comment period for Amendment 19 will end this Friday, May 10th at 5 pm.

Send comments via email to SGRegAm19Comments@safmc.net

The SAFMC will consider these comments at a special webinar meeting next Monday, May 13th at 1 pm to decide a new black sea bass ACL. To comment at the public hearing during the meeting, register at this webinar link: https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/203788962

I urge fishermen to speak out on this issue as soon as possible, because the differences in the ACL alternatives are dramatic as to the amount of fish that can be landed.

Heres a link to an explanation of the amendment alternatives:
http://www.safmc.net/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=myqozhZPKno%3D&tabid=784

Alternative 2 is based on the acceptable biological catch (ABC) recommendations from the councils Scientific and Statistical Committee (SSC). The SSCs ABC recommendations have been calculated using the SSCs ABC control rule, which factors in scientific uncertainty in the stock assessment information and stock status.

The SSCs ABC recommendations are considered very conservative.

These are the Alternative 2 ACLs for black sea bass based on the SSC recommended ABCs (whole weight):
2013 = 2.133 million lbs.
2014 = 1.992 million lbs.
2015 = 1.814 million lbs.

The reason the recommended ACLs decline is because there are excess fish over and above the stock biomass that can produce the maximum sustainable yield (MSY).

In other words, not only is the black sea bass stock rebuil

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Regulatory Amendment 14 which will change the current fishing year is being considered at the next SAFMC meeting in Fla in June here’s the federal register publication;

http://www.safmc.net/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=VGllqLTKZuQ%3D&tabid=415

The snapper grouper advisory panel suggestion is for this date to change to April first. If this is approved and following the council process we could possibly see this by next fishing season.

What is discussed here in regulatory amendment 19 is that currently there is three alternative proposals for a change in Black Sea Bass management following the new 2013 stock status update from SEDAR and reviewed by the SSC which says the fishery is in excellent health and no longer experiencing overfishing or being overfished.

The first alternative is no action and to leave things they way they are currently which obviously is not an option and needs to be changed to match the health of this fishery and what fishermen have been saying.

Alternative two is saying that because the fishery is in such good health the SSC is recommending to the council a harvest level that can be achieved for the next three years without incurring ANY harm to the fishery or its NEW stock status.

Alternative three is a more conservative aspect for the council to consider not allowing access to ALL of the fish that have been recommended by the SSC “Science and Statistical Committee” for the next three years.

Alt two allows for up to seven hundred thousand pounds more fish for the South Atlantic fishermen for the next three years of BSB management (until the next BSB review in 2015) where as Alt 3 takes this amount away and sets a lower (and more conservative) constant catch level than recommended by the SSC taking away the additional poundage.

The management process can be very difficult to understand and explain, I hope this summary helps!

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email sent to safmc

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