Were considered cat food and thrown back a few years ago, what changed, Other then the yellowfin disappearing?
Edited for Bonzo. That was bad. I was in a hurry to get baits in the water?
Charleston City Papers Best Guide of 2014
you nailed it,YFT have nearly been wiped out with airplanes and purse seine nets.
If its easy to catch,people will try to find a way to make it good.I wonder if YFT miraculously reappeared,would those cat food keeping cats,still keep the cat food.I bet not.
in my opinion, Blackfin are good fresh, but they are no good frozen.
Even when the yft’s were around we kept and ate btf’s. Cat food talk is heresy.
quote:
Originally posted by CaptFritzWe’re considered cat food andthrown back a few years ago, what changed? Other then the yellowfin disappearing.
punctuation saves lives, especially yellowfin lives…must be posting when you and the Adderhoffer are pulling triple doubles…
The Morris Island Lighthouse www.savethelight.org
I am curious how you “know” all of the yellowfin have been wiped out? They are still catching plenty off of NC. We have not always had a strong yellowfin fishery here. If you talk to some of the old timers we had black fin and very few yellowfin back in the day. We then had a strong run of yellowfin and very few blackfin. Could it be we are in a cycle that will once again change at some point? As far as table fair, to each their own, I have no problem eating fresh black fin. I find it funny that it concerns some people what other people enjoy catching and eating.
I eat it also.
Hopefully it is just cyclical and the YFT will show up again in numbers. Striker Mike may have wiped them out.
Charleston City Papers Best Guide of 2014
YFT have changed their migratory path. North of us they catch plenty, but they are not passing by within range of SC fishermen. Please don’t claim that the comms are “wiping the YFT out” without some proof. . We are all fishermen, recreational and commercial.
quote:They are 90+ miles off charleston on the east side of the stream. I've seen acres of yft's 200 miles east of charleston heading from San Juan to philly by boat.
Originally posted by natureboyYFT have changed their migratory path. North of us they catch plenty, but they are not passing by within range of SC fishermen. Please don’t claim that the comms are “wiping the YFT out” without some proof. . We are all fishermen, recreational and commercial.
21 Contender
http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20120101/PC1602/301019991
Don Hammond seems to think the netting has something to do with it,same for my buddy Ben Polk.
Back to the cat food,some folks don’t realize that in the early to mid 80’s, it was very common to be back at the dock by 1:00 with 4-5 nice wahoo,8-10 dolphin,and 5-6 YFT over 40lbs.Blackfins were caught,but why mess with that dark,bloody meat when all those other fish were stacked up on the cleaning table?
quote:
Originally posted by natureboyYFT have changed their migratory path. North of us they catch plenty, but they are not passing by within range of SC fishermen. Please don’t claim that the comms are “wiping the YFT out” without some proof. . We are all fishermen, recreational and commercial.
I am going to respectfully disagree with this. There are many different migration patterns with respect to pelagics. Take some time to study Don Hammond’s work with dolphin and you will see the the dolphin we catch off SC is mostly a migration from the backside of the Bahamas while the majority of the fish caught in the OBX come up from the East coast of FL and cross over to the back side of the stream to arrive off the northern coast of NC. And that is not definite.
This is in no way an attack on commercial fisherman here in the states but you cannot sit here and say a tanker size boat with spotter helicopters and airplanes that wipe out entire schools of yellowfin in one swoop do not have a negative impact on our fishery.
Do not tell fish stories where the people know you; but particularly, don’t tell them where they know the fish.
- More Maxims of Mark, Johnson, 1927
31’ Contender
“Touche”
250 HPDIs
Commercial fishermen will deny they have any negative impact on fisheries until the last fish is gone…recreational and commercial fishermen are NOT the same.
Next time you come in, come heavy, or not at all…
The Au-Top-Sea used to bring YFT to the dock every day.
Charleston City Papers Best Guide of 2014
Is that what happened to the sailfish that were here in masses just a handful of years ago? Netters in Africa?
quote:yep,they killed all the tunas,moved on to sailfish.
Originally posted by skinneejIs that what happened to the sailfish that were here in masses just a handful of years ago? Netters in Africa?
Yeah they are still catching yellow fin tuna in North Carolina but in far fewer numbers than in the previous decade. Here is the total recreational catch of yellow fin in NC annually for 2000-2014. Numbers are off by at least 80% when present time is compared with 2000-2004. 2007 is the year yellow fin tuna virtually disappeared from SC. You can run by weight and get virtually the same result. Recruitment overfishing by international purse seiners in Gulf of Guinea is potential culprit. Researchers at VIMS are trying to prove a link between the population off West Africa and East coast of US using banned pesticide residues (which are still being used in Africa) in the fish as a surrogate for a tag. Data source NMFS
Column headings
Year
Common Name
Total Catch (A+B1+B2)
PSE = Percent standard error low numbers (less than 30, means the data are very good)
FINAL 2000 YELLOWFIN TUNA 276,734 9.9
FINAL 2001 YELLOWFIN TUNA 237,914 10.0
FINAL 2002 YELLOWFIN TUNA 142,718 15.7
FINAL 2003 YELLOWFIN TUNA 383,687 8.2
FINAL 2004 YELLOWFIN TUNA 178,934 16.7
FINAL 2005 YELLOWFIN TUNA 188,573 15.4
FINAL 2006 YELLOWFIN TUNA 178,585 13.3
FINAL 2007 YELLOWFIN TUNA 102,286 16.6
FINAL 2008 YELLOWFIN TUNA 25,992 30.4
FINAL 2009 YELLOWFIN TUNA 29,849 17.6
FINAL 2010 YELLOWFIN TUNA 24,016 16.5
FINAL 2011 YELLOWFIN TUNA 25,508 22.7
FINAL 2012 YELLOWFIN TUNA 61,428 20.4
FINAL 2013 YELLOWFIN TUNA 45,916 15.4
FINAL 2014 YELLOWFIN TUNA 33,097 16.9
Thanks for posting that info Hungryneck, good stuff
Charleston City Papers Best Guide of 2014
http://www.fishwatch.gov/seafood_profiles/species/tuna/species_pages/atl_yellowfin_tuna.htm
“Based on the latest stock assessment (2011), Atlantic yellowfin tuna are not overfished.”
“Based on the latest stock assessment (2011), Atlantic yellowfin tuna are not subject to overfishing.”
Something doesn’t add up… Are they overfished or not???
One thing is for sure. Nobody knows what is going on. It’s probably a combination. Are they commercially fished in the gulf that hard? Nothing wrong with that population it seems.
Yes, the numbers that hungryneck only show that “something changed”. It does not put a full story of proof on seine nets in Africa. Maybe that is the reason, maybe it is not, but that’s not the only place in the world where seine nets are used to catch tuna. Also, I doubt that operations started up over there in 2008. I’m sure they were in business well before that. And who is to say that the environment didn’t change so that they are seeing MORE tuna than they did in the past and we are seeing less, and that in 5-10 more years, that the tides shift back into our favor and we see more and they see less? Will it be then that they are blaming the recreational fleet in the US for hurting their catch rates?