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Originally posted by WarblerNever said that. I am saying that closures should be on the table as an option. If I understand you correctly, you are saying closures should never be an option.
As far as your quest for science, what would you have DNR do? “Science” doesn’t mean knowing the exact population of cobia down to the last fish. If certainty is what you want, you’ll still be looking for answers when the cobia are totally gone.
The first rule of fight club is…
Closure seems to be thrown onto the table first increasingly often by managers these days.
It’s the best way of hedging yourself for sure, if you want to protect a stock.
That’s not the only thing DNR (or the SAFMC/NMFS/NOAA) are charged with though. They should be for sustainability- not max population.Before anyone said was science was out there, you came on here talking about Bubba in the river killing cobia accidentally. Therefore, it was clear to me you had an agenda. You’re entitled to that; just don’t call it something it’s not.
Nothing wrong with your agenda if the science supports it.
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What is my agenda exactly, other than not wanting the cobia to
Simply lower bag limits and make it a slot fish. Could even allow one over slot per boat per day way too many fish going into the cooler at the Ross
If the move is as drastic as to close the fishery down, and some not willing to increase size and reduce boat limits along with stopping
all selling of them-----oh never mind this isn’t worth the rise in
my blood pressure!!!
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I think this problem has something to do with cormorants, oyster barons and redfish barons:smiley: They are the culprits.
Let’s just all do what we know is right. Don’t ask for a legal closure. You will never get it open again. I’m doing a voluntary closure for a while.
Getting tired of called a bubba too.
Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats
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About the cobia fishery, I think the spawners in Broad River are being over fished/ killed. Keep one or two per season, that’s a lot of meat for the freezer. Declare them as a gamefish that can’t be sold in the state. When you put a price on an animal’s head, it will become endangered or extinct.
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After reading this entire thread , I sure feel for the guy who posts a pic of his catch this season on this forum. He will go down in history as a fisheries killer named Bubba 
seriously though if I catch one this year ( have not been for several years ) you better believe if it is a legal fish , I will keep and fry/grill that sucker. If I catch two this year, I will most likely fry/grill that one too. After that, who knows, my bubba belly will tell me what to do. I appreciate the Cobia fishery as much as anyone on here. I do plan on netting any fish I can , but if I need to gaff one , I will.
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[i] Getting tired of called a bubba too.
I’m currently biting my tongue on more than that!!!
Warbler, don’t you work for NOAA? I may be wrong on that.
NN
07, 23 Key West, Twin 115 Yammys
“Coastal Bound”
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[i] Getting tired of called a bubba too.
I’m currently biting my tongue on more than that!!!
Warbler, don’t you work for NOAA? I may be wrong on that.
NN
07, 23 Key West, Twin 115 Yammys
“Coastal Bound”
Don’t bite your tongue…let it out, DoubleN.
Nope, never worked for NOAA.
The first rule of fight club is…
And Phin is the one who called y’all Bubbas…not me. I just implied that y’all said “Bo” a lot.
The first rule of fight club is…
As a local who does use bo alot, I have fished the Broad since I was a child with my father (the seventies). Even then, I was taught to only take what I planned on eating. I still subscribe to this. Has the fishery changed? Absolutely. Used to be there was common courtesy. Some still have it. Others not so much. I took my son on his first offshore trip to the Ross six years ago. He was 12. We caught 16 cobia that day. We came home with one. I was thankful to have such a great first trip for him. He still talks about this trip. I explained it was a rarity to have a day like that. I fully support a one fish a day/boat limit. I personally will not boat a fish this year. I will however fish for them with my phone on speed dial to give any fish caught to the Waddell center. I hope to one day take my grands to the river and teach them as my Daddy taught me. We can regulate this fishery and make it secure for future generations.
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Bazinga
Never met redneckn but his post helped lower my blood pressure
on this thread ,
glad to see some others with similar ideals,It’s almost like looking in mirrow 50 yrs ago of my own past with dad and his teachings. I’m trying to instill the same in my grands today!!!
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Redneckn, that’s all it will take to fix it. For us all to fish responsibly. If that won’t fix it then it can’t be fixed. Gluttons and outlaws will always be around, always have been, but there is a very small percentage of those. Most people will act right if they know what right is.
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I hope to one day take my grands to the river and teach them as my Daddy taught me. We can regulate this fishery and make it secure for future generations.
My Daddy taught me the same thing in the 50’s and 60’s. I taught my son the same thing 30 years later. We’ve never kept more than 1 in a day. And I’m waiting on my first grand now
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As a new to Beaufort (I’m from Savannah) local…the inshore cobia fishery is defiantly unique and special… I didn’t grow up on the broad fishing for em…my wife did AMD she still does…when I was younger we would head out to the Ross and such and catch 10-20 cobia depending on the day…we would keep maybe 2 the first trip and maybe 2-3/more for a total of 5 per season and we would catch 10xs that many…consistently…I moved my wife back home a few years ago and my father in law told me we were going cobia fishing I was excited it had been a few years since I had been out for brownies…well when he ran 5 miles from the ramp…slowed down looked at GPS and soundedand told me to throw the anchor iI was confused…we caught 4 that day…in the river…it was new to me and super cool…I could burn 15$ worth of gas and fish all day long and be home and cleaned up before supper time and I could catch cobia…awesome .I think in the years since we’ve put close to 60 in the boat… And i know I’ve kept two small buck cobia and 2 45+ inchers in the last 5 years…I hate to think we could lose such a unique and awesome opportunity due to overfishing…they just need to put different/more strict limits in place…and enforce them…heafty fines loss if privileges and the like will quickly curtail the renegades and rogues…
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As a local who does use bo alot, I have fished the Broad since I was a child with my father (the seventies). Even then, I was taught to only take what I planned on eating. I still subscribe to this. Has the fishery changed? Absolutely. Used to be there was common courtesy. Some still have it. Others not so much. I took my son on his first offshore trip to the Ross six years ago. He was 12. We caught 16 cobia that day. We came home with one. I was thankful to have such a great first trip for him. He still talks about this trip. I explained it was a rarity to have a day like that. I fully support a one fish a day/boat limit. I personally will not boat a fish this year. I will however fish for them with my phone on speed dial to give any fish caught to the Waddell center. I hope to one day take my grands to the river and teach them as my Daddy taught me. We can regulate this fishery and make it secure for future generations.
Bo (redneckn)…you said a mouthful. Clear, concise and dead on target. Thanks for your very level-headed post!
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Originally posted by oyster crackerAbout the cobia fishery, I think the spawners in Broad River are being over fished/ killed. Keep one or two per season, that’s a lot of meat for the freezer. Declare them as a gamefish that can’t be sold in the state.</font id=“size4”> When you put a price on an animal’s head, it will become endangered or extinct.
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This has already been done.
The commercial fishery is offshore- beyond state waters.
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Am I the only one who hasnt caught 20 cobia at the Ross? I feel sure that the majority of us do not catch near that many ever. I have however fished the Ross over the last 10 years probably more than most of you and I will say it is an awesome fishery, but not nearly as easy as most of you suggest. I have had the rare 10 fish day, but most of the time May-June it is 1-4 fish and I consider that a good day. The point I have is that I think most people exaggerate their catches and then the crowd starts to believe that all you have to do is drive out to the Ross and throw lines in anywhere and you can slay the cobia every single time. I have only witnessed a few days where all the boats were catching cobia. Most of the time it is only a couple boats who are positioned perfectly with the right tackle, experience, and good bait. I only want everyone to know the truth that is not nearly as easy as everyone here indicates. I am a true local and I consider myself one of the best cobia fisherman I know and I will tell you that there is a lot of techniques that are required to have a successfull day of cobia fishing. It is a lot of work. Most people have no clue and I have personally witnessed it almost every time I fish at the Ross.
I do remember in the early 2000’s when slack tide at the turtle was incredible. I havent fished the river in the past 3 years because it is definetly not like it used to be. The Ross however is not in any danger, and the DNR proved that they are a different fish.
I don’t think that it is a coincidence that the inshore cobia, crabs, catfish (which were everywhere when i was a kid), and shrimp have been in the lowest numbers I can remember in my lifetime of fishing here (nearly 40 years). The shrimp are the worst I have ever seen in the past 4 years. All of this has to be connected. I don’t know what is causing our inshore fisheries to collapse but I definetly am in favor of anything that will help. But I don’t know what that is. It’s not just the cobia people, its all of t
I used to catch and eat a lot sharks. Others did too. They were always plentiful, but now by June, sharks are so plentiful it is hard to float a cork for trout. Is it possible the tough limits on sharks has allowed them to “crowd out” some of our game fish, either by competing for food or by eating juvenile game fish?
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I agree that the crabs and shrimp are definitely down. I am however a deep hole guy so I don’t bait. I have noticed a decrease in size versus time of year also. On that note, when it comes to fishing I am pretty much catch and release. There are only two of us here and my wife enjoys catching them more than cooking them. ( I am blessed to have a live in fishing partner) I have a friend who routinely over fishes, even comes home with over slot and over limit. I have spoken to him about it. It seems that some have a more for me, screw you attitude. DNR will catch him and the fines will be appropriate. We can only try and keep our side of the street clean. I spoke to 3 guys today. Two said screw that, I’m keeping what I catch, The third is on board with catch/release and or turning over to Waddell. I know the owners of Last Chance and will talk to them about putting up a couple fliers with Waddells number on it during peak season. All we can do is try. It only takes a spark to start a fire!
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Good discussion guys. I’ll answer any questions you have about the cobia fishery in the Broad River. I took a video of Dr. Denson’s presentation at PRF and I’m trying to put it together with the slideshow for you guys. I’m also collecting email addresses from anyone who wants to be included in a survey we’re planning to send out asking about preferred management options. I will email everyone the 2015 cobia newsletter with detailed data about the cobia collected in 2014, as well.
Please also see our website at www.dnr.sc.gov/marine/stocking for more information on the research we’ve done on cobia over the last 15 years. You can get to it by clicking the research tab on the top and selecting which area of study (population health, stock enhancement, etc) you are interested in.
It’s that time of year when I show up on the message boards to encourage everyone to request a DNA sample collection kit. Otherwise known as a ziplock bag with 10 DNA vials and a waterproof datasheet for you to record details of each catch. You can request a kit directly from the website.
We also will collect cobia racks again this year. This is the carcass of the cobia after it has been filleted. It’s collected so we can pull the ear bone out the head to age the fish. You might have seen us doing that at the tournaments at some point. Anyway, we’ll again have collection freezers around the Sound for you to drop your racks off.
In order to donate a fish, the best time to reach the Broodstock Taxi on the water is generally Tues-Fri on either side of the late morning slack tides. We’re usually off the water by 3 oclock. If you want, email me with your cell number and say “put me on the text list” and I’ll send a text each morning with our intended destinations. We’ve got 2 tank equipped boats now. We need broodstock.
The DNR will also be attending cobia tournaments every Saturday in May to collect samples. Fillin’ Station, Captain Woody’s, Food & Bev, and a new tournament for us this year on Edisto.
And I know thi
Hey Crackerlarry! congrats on the new grand on the way, I know you’ll
not be a doating grampaw and teach him/her how to fish or build their own boats.!!! You’ll love it ( got 6 ) and would be happy with
6 more.
Redneckn right , seems too many have ,its all me screw you mentality.
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