Do I need to use ethanol treatment in my motor?

and i have said all along - if fuel sits in your boat tank for over 3 weeks then stabilize it, if you use your boat constantly, then its not necessary.

let me ask you another question - why does it matter if fuel in an underground tank is older than 3 weeks??

What the hell difference does it make which tank the fuel is in. Sitting in a boat tank or underground, what’s the difference? Old fuel is old fuel!

it makes all the difference what kind of tank the fuel is in. you just showed more proof that you don’t know what you’re talking about

Please enlighten me on the difference friend!

WELL?

you figure it out. again, if you new what you were talking about instead of just parroting others then you would know (or understand). there is one thing about boat tanks that everyone knows is different from automobile and storage tanks. if you think about it you should be able to figure it out. maybe go outside and look at your boats fuel system and your vehicles fuel system and it should jump out at you

Come on Hoppy, you can certainly do better than that! There are some differences, and many similarities, but none that would change the matters at hand.

there is one fundamental difference that makes marine and vehicle tanks total opposites. and, its the reason gas goes bad in marine tanks. you are really making yourself look worse and worse by not knowing that one fundamental difference.

Then explain, so I can redeem myself.

you are past redemption

listen - i cant play for a while. i’m getting ready to cook a very cool supper (not shark). maybe i’ll post pics of it later.

i bet someone will come along shortly and explain the difference. if not, i will after we eat.

congratz

Gotta run to the gro. store. I’ll be awaiting your explanation. Seeya, Scott

My guess Hoppy would be “vent”. I’d like to chime in also… with all this talk of e10 messing with fuel i went out and checked my fuel today. its got an orange</font id=“orange”> tent to it. i did treat with marine sta-bil at the last fill up which was 2 maybe 3 months ago. i could not see anything in the fuel as mentioned in this post and others. my main ? is… color normal? if not what is the correct course of action?
thanks
adam

WRONG!! All fuel tanks must be vented, or they would not allow fuel to flow, and become vacuum locked. Just glad you are taking an interest in trying to eliminate unnecessary problems. Seeya, Scott

adam, you sir are 100% correct. marine fuel tanks are vented so they are atmospherically exposed so to speak. so, with all that air in them and also pulling new air inside them in order to function, the ethanol pulls water out of the air and contaminates the fuel.

underground fuel storage tanks, and automobile tanks are basically sealed and dont regularly have new atmosphere (air) introduced inot them, so the ethanol doesnt have air to pull water from.

re your fuel; orange is normal. be certain it doesnt have any “jelly like” materiel in it, or water. i would also smell it and make sure it smells like gas. we had a boat come in the other day with fuel related problems and the fuel actually smelled foul. it didnt smell like gas at all and would almost make you gag. i dont know if anyone ever figured that one out

Thanks. I could not notice anything that looked like water or crud. It smelled ok. I know what bad gas smells like smell it once and you never forget. MN maybe you should look automotive fuel systems. They are vented but not direct vented. If Im not mistaken back in the late ??70s?? is when emmisions standards changed the way automotive fuel systems are vented. I could be wrong but I think thats correct.
Hoppy thanks again.
Adam

Hoppy, have you ever been to a gas station??? Just look around and you’ll see the fuel tank vents coming out of the ground!!! your last statement proves you are more of an idiot, than I thought I was dealing with. Having said that, I’m tired of this discussion, and rendering to idiots, fare well my friend, I’ve enjoyed the robust debate, but you sir are an idiot! Seeya, Scott

4 pages -

congratz

bye, for now!!!

I think I’ve found FloridaBoy!!!

However, I do happen to agree that all containers from which you take a substance, must be vented, ie, something goes out of it, something (air) must go in to replace it or you have implosion. Unless there’s some kind of piston that drives the gas out of the underground tank and the air comes in behind the piston and never contacts the gas. I can’t believe I’m commenting on this; I have no idea what I’m talking about. However, I think I’ll follow Hoppy’s advice and add Startron except when turning over fuel every couple of days.

My UST’s are vented, but manifolded. If gas sat in my tanks for 3 weeks, I’d be bankrupt. I empty and fill a 15K take 2-3 times a week and I’m not considered “high” volume. The SCPMA had to go to the supreme court to get conventional gas back in SC. If you think E10 is bad, wait till you see E15 & E20. It’s coming. Ethanol gas isn’t bad if stored in large volumes, but it’s nasty in small spaces like bowls, jets, and injectors when it sits. I’ve always found that running the motor out of gas and leaving the fuel tank full & stabilized and the fuel system empty gives me the best results.