Or a teaser, or a sea witch?
Catchfish I guess u are implying that you would steer clear of it if you had found?
Since it would be cheating and all!! I think not
Just saying my opinion. Dropping a FAD is illegal… Fishing a FAD ain’t illegal. There isn’t any clear cut rules against them. The difference between a FAD and Chas 60 is public knowledge. We don’t have the numbers to someone’s FAD… Not only that, it alters the species natural habits and increases the catch ratios which puts a strain on the target species population… as far as me finding one yea I’d fish it but the fish we are after we let go and have 90 percent survival rate. I’m not gonna catch 20 slinger dolphin and clean them for an hour and half when I get back. I really dont get why people kill the hell outta dolphin. Kind of like deer hunting would you really kill 10 does and 5 bucks on your lease or farm in a day?.. everyone thinks the ocean is endless and has massive amounts of fish within it. Here’s the deal though, the ocean is a desert but like a desert there are little oasis within it. Those oaisis are were fish congregate. And if the oaisis get hammered over and over again through the decades guess what no more fish… when I was little catching a few billfish in a season you were the man. Now there’s boats that whack them consistently. Through circle hooks and conservation for the last 20 years. people can go almost every trip and see a billfish in their spread or have a mystery bite that was proabably a billfish. Honestly, the meat fishing is just gonna get worse and worse. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if they put a 20 dolphin limit out in a year or two…
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Originally posted by CatchfishJust saying my opinion. Dropping a FAD is illegal… Fishing a FAD ain’t illegal. There isn’t any clear cut rules against them. The difference between a FAD and Chas 60 is public knowledge. We don’t have the numbers to someone’s FAD… Not only that, it alters the species natural habits and increases the catch ratios which puts a strain on the target species population… as far as me finding one yea I’d fish it but the fish we are after we let go and have 90 percent survival rate. I’m not gonna catch 20 slinger dolphin and clean them for an hour and half when I get back. I really dont get why people kill the hell outta dolphin. Kind of like deer hunting would you really kill 10 does and 5 bucks on your lease or farm in a day?.. everyone thinks the ocean is endless and has massive amounts of fish within it. Here’s the deal though, the ocean is a desert but like a desert there are little oasis within it. Those oaisis are were fish congregate. And if the oaisis get hammered over and over again through the decades guess what no more fish… when I was little catching a few billfish in a season you were the man. Now there’s boats that whack them consistently. Through circle hooks and conservation for the last 20 years. people can go almost every trip and see a billfish in their spread or have a mystery bite that was proabably a billfish. Honestly, the meat fishing is just gonna get worse and worse. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if they put a 20 dolphin limit out in a year or two…
Take a deep breath.
Meat fishing is not near as bad as it was with all the long liners and no rules. Things are not as bad as you think. Yet.
When I was young, I knew no one that would return a fish. Now pretty much everyone does it … from time to time.
"Why Bruce?
20 dolphin limit would be ok by me. They never get ahead of the regs. …Only catch up when it’s late.
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Originally posted by Redstripe20 dolphin limit would be ok by me. They never get ahead of the regs. …Only catch up when it’s late.
Y’all talking 20 per boat? Right? I could agree with that along with putting a 40-60 fish limit on a headboat.
I’ve seen some jack legs load up on slinger peanuts. Never understood that one.
“Why Bruce?”
Dolphin are the most prolific of the pelagic fish and grow around 2 inches a week.
They also spawn constantly. I don’t see the issue with someone keeping some slingers.
Especially for those of us who only manage to make it offshore once every 2 weeks during our dolphin season.
Sorry if I hurt your feelings. If it makes you feel any better we could have loaded up our 40 just as easily and headed to the house but we didn’t.
It would make me feel better if others on this site didn’t try to push their values or beliefs on others. Dolphin mature quickly, live very short lives , and reproduce very rapidly. They are common in every warm ocean world wide and what we do off the SC coast will have little or no impact on their population. If 6 guys pitch in for the cost to go offshore , I hope they will come back with the limit. If a 20 fish limit is imposed it will likely kill more fish than what we have now because of culling. - example - the 20" limit on red snapper killed more fish than it saved. Once a guy fills his freezer and cleans a big pile of mahi - he will fish for something else. A grilled whole slinger is good eats!
BTW When I went to retrieve my anchor and rope with the 3 poly balls there were at least 10 boats trolling circles around it. I guess the word spread fast
i dont think anyone is trying to “push” their values or beliefs onto anyone. They are simply stating their opinions
If I’m posting, its because I’m sitting here at work, dreaming about fishing.
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Originally posted by TheMechanici dont think anyone is trying to “push” their values or beliefs onto anyone. They are simply stating their opinions
If I’m posting, its because I’m sitting here at work, dreaming about fishing.
As I’m posting my opinion.
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Originally posted by TheMechanici dont think anyone is trying to “push” their values or beliefs onto anyone. They are simply stating their opinions
If I’m posting, its because I’m sitting here at work, dreaming about fishing.
As I’m posting my opinion.
As am i…
If I’m posting, its because I’m sitting here at work, dreaming about fishing.
Mahi mahi is the fastest growing fish in the ocean and each one produces 400,000 eggs like every 4-6 weeks or something and the spawning season is long. now 87% of them don’t make it there first year but that leaves 52,000 that do… so I’m not too sure we need to worry about the mahi mahi population anyway… lol
266 sailfish twin 200 hpdi
Just for the record all the legal artificial reefs are permitted by the Army Corp of Engineers and marked on charts for navigation and safety purposes. There are no permitted FADS on the east coast of the US that I am aware of, thus, having knowledge of the location of one is a distinct advantage (some would contend unfair) in a tournament setting. As someone said earlier they are not illegal to fish on but they are illegal to deploy if the intent is not to retrieve in a timely manner since there are documented instances of whales etc. becoming entangled in vertical lines and subsequently dying.
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Originally posted by hungryneckJust for the record all the legal artificial reefs are permitted by the Army Corp of Engineers and marked on charts for navigation and safety purposes. There are no permitted FADS on the east coast of the US that I am aware of, thus, having knowledge of the location of one is a distinct advantage (some would contend unfair) in a tournament setting. As someone said earlier they are not illegal to fish on but they are illegal to deploy if the intent is not to retrieve in a timely manner since there are documented instances of whales etc. becoming entangled in vertical lines and subsequently dying.
Except for the SCDNR private “research” reefs
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quote:They are on the docket to be turned into MPAs and publish the numbers. Stupidest thing that SAFMC has ever done.
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Originally posted by hungryneckJust for the record all the legal artificial reefs are permitted by the Army Corp of Engineers and marked on charts for navigation and safety purposes. There are no permitted FADS on the east coast of the US that I am aware of, thus, having knowledge of the location of one is a distinct advantage (some would contend unfair) in a tournament setting. As someone said earlier they are not illegal to fish on but they are illegal to deploy if the intent is not to retrieve in a timely manner since there are documented instances of whales etc. becoming entangled in vertical lines and subsequently dying.
Except for the SCDNR private “research” reefs
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Thanks for some good ideas. I’m going to research FAD’s and make some of my own.
Harold Wilcox
www.haroldshogwash.com
How did SAFMC get involved is SCDNR (state) business?
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Originally posted by hwilcoxThanks for some good ideas. I’m going to research FAD’s and make some of my own.
Harold Wilcox
www.haroldshogwash.com
Research in some freshwater forums, some pretty cool ideas that could be used in Salt (i would imagine). Tons of people have them all over Santee to attract crappie.
Cinderblock and cotton or hemp rope, Nylon lasts way too long if not retrieved. Cotton or hemp will rot.
“Why Bruce?”
Years ago, “someone” anchored a plastic 55 gal drum in 350’ suspended at 70’ under the surface . Tons of Mahi were caught around it , lots of oceanic triggers , sometimes tuna . It got so it was harder & harder to find with Loran & sounder. I suspect it finally deteriorated , leaked and sank.
I always thought a couple blow up rafts anchored to the bottom would work pretty good. Pack in small boxes and inflate once your ready to put them out.