Could be used for shark and was used for shark. There were a some guys using the guise of redfishing to catch sharks.
Some of them even had shark fishing club shirts on.
SC Shark, and yes, there a was guy that would come with a 50w on a broomstick claiming he’s was redfishing.
How are the going to determine if you fishing for sharks? It’s up to their opinion and interpatation.
Ya know, it must be nice living in Neverneverland. Remind me to come visit you, when I need a break from reality.
Kingfishing area is from 0 to 32, has been for the 15+ years. The ropes were handled/sized by pier management last year. Prior to last year, the ropes were handled by the king guys, depending on how many were there.
Last year, I was involved in several altercations with bottom fishers casting over my lines, wanting the ropes moved cause they wanted to fish there, instead of taking 1 of the other 200 spots available to them. Had several runs that got tangled up in bottom fishers lines.
The real problem lies, with a few exceptions, in pier employees lack of knowledge and lack of monitoring their own rules, regulations they set.
Ya know, it must be nice living in Neverneverland. Remind me to come visit you, when I need a break from reality.
Hello my fellow pier peers, tis Joey from out here on Folly. Just wanted to clarify the updated changes & rules so everybody’s on the same page.
Fishing Passes
No longer includes parking, but went down in price ($80 Adult/$60 CCR Discount/$40 Senior/Youth).
For parking, purchase a Gold Pass ($85/$70 CCR Discount/$55 Senior).
Essentially the price is still about the same, (even cheaper now in some cases) with the addition of having a Gold Pass you can get into all gates of the 11 County Parks.
If you want a refund on your fishing pass you may contact (843) 795-4386 and you will receive a prorated refund from March 1st, 2016 (when the new rules went into effect) to the end of your pass period. (An example would be if you purchased the pass Sept 1st 2015, you would be refunded what’s left on the pass, 6 months)
Folly Shark Ordinance:
Shark Fishing prohibited from 3rd West to 3rd East (up to $500 fine/30 days in jail)
Purpose is to deter shark fishing in the commercial district for the obvious reason of attracting hazardous wildlife to a populous beach spot. During the summer season, surf fishing is prohibited in the life guard swim zone regardless. So essentially not much has changed, but this ordinance gives a little extra “Bite” to those who violate the rules on the beach and pier. - This ordinance was mimicked after Horry County’s shark fishing which includes a handful of piers http://www.horrycounty.org/AboutOurBeaches.aspx
Shark fishing has been prohibited since 1998 on the pier, so essentially nothing has changed
See below for the criteria our staff will use to determine the act of “shark fishing/targeting”
Bottom Fishing Size Regulations:
Hook size must be 4/0 or smaller
Cut bait must be 2”x2”x2” or smaller
Whole bait must be the size of finger mullet or smaller
I’ve personally seen someone reel in a 40” red drum with one of our rental rods with tackle smaller than posted above, therefore the “I’m targeting red drum”
If you want to join in on the childish arguments then the pier is your spot…come on out!
Simply look at above post, this is why there is no arguing. I have personally talked to Joey and he is handling the situation. Last year many days did not need a rope at end of pier, when the shark fishing was enforced. Now this year we can take his word that it will in fact be enforced and the pier will be an enjoyable place to fish. End of last year finished strong on most species and one can only hope this year starts where it finished!
Also I am still sad the pier phone number is no longer FISH ha
Hello my fellow pier peers, tis Joey from out here on Folly. Just wanted to clarify the updated changes & rules so everybody’s on the same page.
Fishing Passes
No longer includes parking, but went down in price ($80 Adult/$60 CCR Discount/$40 Senior/Youth).
For parking, purchase a Gold Pass ($85/$70 CCR Discount/$55 Senior).
Essentially the price is still about the same, (even cheaper now in some cases) with the addition of having a Gold Pass you can get into all gates of the 11 County Parks.
If you want a refund on your fishing pass you may contact (843) 795-4386 and you will receive a prorated refund from March 1st, 2016 (when the new rules went into effect) to the end of your pass period. (An example would be if you purchased the pass Sept 1st 2015, you would be refunded what’s left on the pass, 6 months)
Folly Shark Ordinance:
Shark Fishing prohibited from 3rd West to 3rd East (up to $500 fine/30 days in jail)
Purpose is to deter shark fishing in the commercial district for the obvious reason of attracting hazardous wildlife to a populous beach spot. During the summer season, surf fishing is prohibited in the life guard swim zone regardless. So essentially not much has changed, but this ordinance gives a little extra “Bite” to those who violate the rules on the beach and pier. - This ordinance was mimicked after Horry County’s shark fishing which includes a handful of piers http://www.horrycounty.org/AboutOurBeaches.aspx
Shark fishing has been prohibited since 1998 on the pier, so essentially nothing has changed
See below for the criteria our staff will use to determine the act of “shark fishing/targeting”
Minor correction on the passes:
If your pass expires before Oct. 1st, it will be grandfathered in to get you free parking at the pier lot.
As far as shark fishing from the surf, it is allowed outside of 3rd East & 3rd West as long as it is not in the lifeguard swim zone while they’re on duty. As most of us know, the old coast guard base on the East end and Folly Beach County Park (FBCP) on the west end are favored spots to target sharks and larger species. We ask that at FBCP you fish on the other side of the terminal groin (river side) which is considered out of our guarded area.
quote:Fishing Passes
- No longer includes parking, but went down in price ($80 Adult/$60 CCR Discount/$40 Senior/Youth).
- For parking, purchase a Gold Pass ($85/$70 CCR Discount/$55 Senior).
- Essentially the price is still about the same, (even cheaper now in some cases) with the addition of having a Gold Pass you can get into all gates of the 11 County Parks.
- If you want a refund on your fishing pass you may contact (843) 795-4386 and you will receive a prorated refund from March 1st, 2016 (when the new rules went into effect) to the end of your pass period. (An example would be if you purchased the pass Sept 1st 2015, you would be refunded what’s left on the pass, 6 months)
Folly Shark Ordinance:
Shark Fishing prohibited from 3rd West to 3rd East (up to $500 fine/30 days in jail)
Purpose is to deter shark fishing in the commercial district for the obvious reason of attracting hazardous wildlife to a populous beach spot. During the summer season, surf fishing is prohibited in the life guard swim zone regardless. So essentially not much has changed, but this ordinance gives a little extra “Bite” to those who violate the rules on the beach and pier. - This ordinance was mimicked after Horry County’s shark fishing which includes a handful of piers http://www.horrycounty.org/AboutOurBeaches.aspx
Shark fishing has been prohibited since 1998 on the pier, so essentially nothing has changed
See below for the criteria our staff will use to determine the act of “shark fishing/targeting”
Bottom Fishing Size Regulations:
Hook size must be 4/0 or smaller
Cut bait must be 2”x2”x2” or smaller
Whole bait must be the size of finger mullet or smaller
I’ve personally seen someone reel in a 40” red drum with one of our rental rods with tackle smaller than posted above, therefore the “I’m targeting red drum” excuse will not accepted. We feel the above tackle limits are more than
Dealt with this issue in the 80’s with the grand strand piers. Tried to use simple logic and common sense with them. Just allow sharking from the piers from sundown to sunrise, like we used to have on the piers on the OBX of N.C… This would not infringe on any bathers. Look for documented shark attacks in these waters versus the number of attacks during the same period of time on the grand strand, where it was outlawed. Statistics proved that there is zero correlation.
The real problem is the business owners. They feel that if the “secret” , ( there are actually sharks (very large in many cases), that consistently cruise the inshore areas of all South Carolina’s coastline), will get out, and ignorant tourists will not spend their money coming to “shark infested” beaches. It’s a simple, fact based, situation that some local coastal governments just want to pretend doesn’t exist.
Tigers, bulls, hammerheads, lemons, blacktips, spinners, sandtigers, sandbars, duskies, and even the occasional White shark are not going to avoid the areas cordoned off by the Folly Beach government. They are going to be there, regardless of any or no fishing activity. That is a fact. Not all sharkers are morons. Yes, dumping chum into the water near people swimming in the daytime is moronic. I get that.
Paddling or floating out a chunk of FISH off the end of the pier at sunset is not attracting anything that isn’t already in the general area and is cruising that general area for food. These laws simply have no impact on the number of sharks swimming up and down the beaches on a regular basis and they know it. Fishing for them is merely taking advantage of something that is already available. Using simple common sense and courtesy is the answer, not banning it. Have rules, make money on the guys who want to do this on the pier late at night when no one else is there. Even charge a special fee. It can be regulated just like anything else.
On a charter for bull redfish the afternoon of March 8, a Tennessee fisherman wound up landing a great white shark off Hilton Head Island that was estimated at close to 2,500 pounds before it was tagged and released for future shark research.
From South Carolina Sportsman. They were fishing for bull reds
Fishing for a protected fish, caught a shark. Also, read into the article more. They were not indeed fishing solely for reds. With the gear listed the shark was caught on it is quite obvious haha.
“They had already caught a few big redfish and Troy Bowman was worn down. Then zing! The big line baited with fish carcass raced out.” That is literally first sentence of article. They were bored catching carp so put out a shark rig. Which was a Penn international 80vsw on a custom aftco roller hatteras rod. Red fishing indeed my friend…
Most of the guys on the pier have been using a 7/0 I think.
Joey, I don’t disagree with you that you can’t catch a red on a 4/0….I certainly have. Problem: Even with the larger (in my opinion, more appropriate hook sizes) hooks, one in five will end up gut-hooking the fish. With the larger hooks you can carefully reach down into the fish and reverse the hook out. Lots of the pier guys do this. You’re much more likely to end up with a 4/0 hook piercing you inside the fish’s belly while trying to reverse it out as you cannot get a solid hold on the hook to do it carefully. I think there will be more gut-hooked fish with the smaller hook/bait and I think people will be less likely to risk going into the fish to remove it as opposed to just cutting the leader.
It’s one of the most targeted species in the Charleston area. That’s why I posted the link….it discusses how to safely catch and release these fish in an effort to “generally” not gut hook the fish. DNR says the correct rig involves a 9/0 hook. Don’t argue with me. Argue with DNR.
The kings must be protected since only 2 kings in the last 3 years have been pulled on the pier, right? (I’m kidding)
I fished 9 days last yr, 7 at folly. Had a king caught or seen on all but 1. Hopefully this year I have more free time to actually fish there. DNR idea of “safe” gear is questionable for most species sadly.
M redfish rig consists of 4ft-125# mono with an Aussie swivel to 12" of 170# solid steel leader with a 80# snap swivel with a 10/0 circle hook. so far none of the bull reds have been gut hooked, all in the lip or in the corner. I was using 5/0 circle hooks and lost two because the hook never set because the point of the circle didn’t have enough room above the head of the finger mullet. I also crimp down the barb to make removal easier and faster…there is enough left to keep the bait on.