Heisman

Which of these QB’s gets all the press? I heard about this listening to the radio, So I looked into it. Here are 4 QB stats as of today. Sorry it doesn’t format nicely…

SEASON CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT RAW QBR ADJ QBR
2013 56 90 683 62.2 7.59 77 6 0 5 148.0 72.3 0.0

SEASON CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT RAW QBR ADJ QBR
2013 48 74 661 64.9 8.93 65 6 0 3 166.7 70.1 0.0

SEASON CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT RAW QBR ADJ QBR
2013 50 78 702 64.1 9.00 51 6 2 6 160.0 69.3 0.0

SEASON CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT RAW QBR ADJ QBR
2013 79 110 1214 71.8 11.04 54 14 1 3 204.7 92.6 0.0

boyd
shaw
mccarron
bridgewater

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Interesting. Maybe because they are still looking at last years numbers since we are only 1/4 of the way through this season?

4am, baby up and crying for an hour, just got him back to sleep and now i’m wide awake. bah.

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Originally posted by shevlin

Interesting. Maybe because they are still looking at last years numbers since we are only 1/4 of the way through this season?

4am, baby up and crying for an hour, just got him back to sleep and now i’m wide awake. bah.


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I dont say this often but Fritz, that was funny.

Shevlin. Been there done that. My baby is 10.

I was listening to the spurrier call in show and Todd Ellis mentioned that Shaw’s numbers were equal or better than the QB in the upstate.

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AJ is the best QB in college football IMO, yes that includes Johnny Football.

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I want to see Bridgewater play against a big boy team. He has all the makings. AJ is probably the best game manager QB. He does what needs to be done and he is good at it. So I would agree as of now, AJ is the best.

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Originally posted by Fishb8

I want to see Bridgewater play against a big boy team. He has all the makings. AJ is probably the best game manager QB. He does what needs to be done and he is good at it. So I would agree as of now, AJ is the best.

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Evidently Florida is not a “big boy” football team? He made them look silly and they are considered one of the best SEC defenses. Yes it was last year, but the Gators were no slouch on defense when compared to the other SEC teams. He is probably the best in the game right now at the college level.

Yea, I’m looking at this year. The problem for him is they have a very cheesy schedule.

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Are we talking about Heisman candidates or the best QB for Sunday play?

AJ for Heisman

Teddy Bridgewater for the NFL.

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good point 23.
I agree.

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McCarron is a good all around QB. I don’t think that you can really call him just a game manager anymore, he’s really developed over the last few years. Bridgewater is an amazing talent but I’d like to see him play a better slate of teams to see what he can do this year. He’ll be fun to watch at the next level regardless. Manziel is a college QB, exciting to watch but his mechanics suck, never seen a luckier player throwing off his back foot so much. I don’t see JM being much at the next level, in fact I see his career being short lived. Mariota is just fun to watch but I don’t see where he has the overall skills to be a productive pro over the long haul. Boyd is a Moon/Culpepper type QB, he’ll be good at the next level for a time but never a HOF type player.

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Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn’t go so far as to call a dog filthy but they’re definitely dirty. But, a dog’s got personality. Personality goes a long way.

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What do yall think of Shaw?

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There are no rushing stats for these QB’s so it is impossible to make a true judgment of them. The game has shifted so much with the read option being run by so many teams that it’s too hard to draw a distinction with just passing numbers. Johnny Football, Bridgewater, Mariota, Boyd, even Shaw all run on a regular basis and provide much more value to their team doing it. The thing about being an NFL QB is that accuracy and quick decision making is what separates the good ones. Bridgwater I think is going to be over hyped. NFL teams are also running more of the read option now and it those D coordinators are figuring out ways to stop it easier. You’ll see linebackers continue to be focused less on size and more on speed over the next few years.

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Originally posted by saltydog235 I don't see JM being much at the next level, in fact I see his career being short lived.

You are right. I see his pro career going alot like Tebow’s.

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I think JM’s pro career will look a lot like Charlie Ward’s.

Come on, take your shot. What do you think of Shaw?

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Originally posted by Fishb8

What do yall think of Shaw?

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I think he’s a tough kid but not a great QB. He gets happy feet and while it works for him in CFB, it’ll get him crippled for life in the pros. He can definitely have a pro career but it will be as a back-up just like Charlie Whitehurst. And don’t take it wrong but Connor Shaw is no where near the QB Whitehurst was.

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Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn’t go so far as to call a dog filthy but they’re definitely dirty. But, a dog’s got personality. Personality goes a long way.

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I agree Salty.
Shaw has run 12, 16, 19 times in the 1st 3 game.

Boyd has run 13, 6, 13 times in 3 games. But he did not play much against sc state.

In comparison, I would have thought Shaw had way more runs…

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Originally posted by Fishb8

I agree Salty.
Shaw has run 12, 16, 19 times in the 1st 3 game.

Boyd has run 13, 6, 13 times in 3 games. But he did not play much against sc state.

In comparison, I would have thought Shaw had way more runs…

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The difference is other than the sacks which count as runs, Boyds are mostly designed runs. I’ve seen a few of Shaw’s that were QB keepers but most seem to be a breakdown and coverage where he takes off. NFL QBs that do that a lot end up on the IR list.

Shaw’s got grit and guts for sure. Thompson is a better overall QB from what I have seen.

Mark
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Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn’t go so far as to call a dog filthy but they’re definitely dirty. But, a dog’s got personality. Personality goes a long way.

“Life’s tough…It’s even tougher if you’re stupid” John Wayne