So when will it be banned in the southern counties like it is in the northern counties of South Carolina. I personally think it won’t be soon enough.
I hope never. A super fun sport when managed proper with enough land and control to keep the dogs off the highways and off adjoining property. Anyone that says hunting with dogs is not a sport has never done it. It’s a Hell of a thing to shoot a deer running wide open across a 10 yard opening, heck it’s enough just listening to the dogs run.
Right now the majority of Dog Hunters are their own worst enemy.
I’d be ok with a dog club having to have written permission from surrounding land owners if hunting anything less than 1500 acres and also no standing within 100 yards from any public road.
Although I didn’t enjoy dog hunting the few times I went. There are quite a few who enjoy dog hunting. I would hate to see another hunting privilege taken away.
Political correctness will eventually prevail. The modern day deer hunter is equipped with so many technology advances that still hunting has a much higher success ratio than in the past when it was necessary to flush deer from their often inaccessible natural environment. When was the last time you saw a cadre of hunter’s mounted on Marsh Tacky’s directed by a pack of purebred deer hounds that were cared for by a man whose paying job was to nurture and develop them into a working team? You would need to have pure blue blood in your veins, and have plantation owning relatives, that’s for sure. What we have today, outside of hundred years old club’s like Middleton Plantation, are hard scrabble independents who meat hunt based on a model that reflects traditions of the middle 20th century. Dogs were valued as beasts that ran deer out of the swamp. They weren’t pets. They were kept in kennels, outside, and food and medical attention was based on economics. A pump shot gun and an old stump for a stand was all the hunter needed to be effective. A missed shot cost the group needed meat, and a shirttail got clipped as a punishment. I personally relate to these southern sportsmen, their traditions, and their rituals. There is unity of purpose, a camaraderie, a hierarchy, and a rite of passage that makes dog hunting special and pure in the annals of Southern culture. Political correctness and modern antiseptic technology do not value it. I say that’s unfortunate and sad.
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I grew up dog hunting.I understand the sporting aspect of it and hope that people can continue to enjoy it under certain conditions.The main thing being the size of the property.My farm is in northern Colleton county and there’s not a Saturday that goes by when we don’t have dogs from the adjoining club run through our property while we are still hunting.I’ve had to start taking time off from work during the week just to have any shot at a decent buck.
The Georgia law where you have to have,I believe 1200 contiguous acres to run dogs is the way to go.With a property that size you have a reasonable chance of keeping the dogs off your neighbor.
It really comes down to consideration for your neighbor.My hunting activities do not affect the adjoining hunting clubs ,but they sure affect us.All we want is to be able to enjoy our own property without interference.
To each their own. If people want to hunt with dogs and can do it responsibly then good for them, I wish them the best. If they can’t and dogs get onto other properties messing up others hunts then they can collect their collars at the club gate.
Mark
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Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn’t go so far as to call a dog filthy but they’re definitely dirty. But, a dog’s got personality. Personality goes a long way.
“Life’s tough…It’s even tougher if you’re stupid” John Wayne
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The Georgia law where you have to have,I believe 1200 contiguous acres to run dogs is the way to go.With a property that size you have a reasonable chance of keeping the dogs off your neighbor
That is correct, it was passed about 3 years ago. Of course, the deer and the dogs still don’t know the boundary lines, or the laws. I wouldn’t shoot a man’s dog just because it messed up my hunt. In all honesty I’ve killed some good deer while still hunting that I wouldn’t have otherwise if they weren’t being pushed by dogs. I’ve even tied notes to their collars saying thanks for sending me your deer
I live in the heart of dog hunting country and have been dog hunting for 45 years, but enjoy undisturbed still hunting even more. Deer are a lot easier to hit when they are walking along slowly eating acorns, than when they are being pushed hard by a pack of Walkers. They taste better too. The adrenaline or whatever makes the meat tough and gamey when they have been running a while.
My property is surrounded by 4 dog clubs and I have their hounds on my land almost every day. They don’t bother me. Most of the dog hunters have GPS tracking collars on their dogs now that they can use a smart phone and keep up with the dogs on a google earth map. Very cool. They try to keep them on their property, fines are big if they are caught where it pizzes somebody off. But as I said, dogs don’t know property lines with tree blazings.
All of my neighbors are dog hunters. They are welcome on my property to catch their dogs any time. I’ll help them do it. They welcome me to still hunt on their land too. We get along. If you live in the rural South, dog hunting is a way of life. Got to live with it. If I were to shoot somebody’s good hound, I’d never be able to live in this neighborhood again. My house might even get burned down [B)
One reason I have problems with a lot of the dog clubs is that I grew up in Jacksonboro next door to Bluefield Hunting Club.I saw how a dog club can operate and happily co-exist with their neighbors and I just don’t see it in most dog clubs around me today.
I love it when dog hunters drive around blowing their horn at prime time…even more so when it’s Florida hunters…
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Originally posted by backlashI love it when dog hunters drive around blowing their horn at prime time…even more so when it’s Florida hunters…
That will get you a ticket from DNR for harassment. My sister in law found that out the hard way.
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Originally posted by backlashSo when will it be banned in the southern counties like it is in the northern counties of South Carolina. I personally think it won’t be soon enough.
Hopefully when they do, they will also have legislation included that prevents still hunters from sitting over bait…
A bad day fishing is much better than a good day at work.
I take that trade anyday pitviper.Thats what food plots are made for.
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Originally posted by Creek SnakeI take that trade anyday pitviper.Thats what food plots are made for.
Ummm… Foodplot=Bait?
A bad day fishing is much better than a good day at work.
Here is something to think about. Everyone that wants to ban dog hunting just wait till the coyote population doubles. You don’t relies how many are trapped each year and sold to fox pens and who you think runs in them? Dog hunters in the off season. Trappers are not going trap for a $10 fur. Reckon have to find some broke coyote dogs for future hunting.
I used to trap coons, coyotes and foxes on my property to sell to the fox pens. I did it until too many city people moved to the country and too much land was broke up into small pieces. I quit about 10 years ago when I stared catching house dogs. I don’t want to hurt anybody’s house dog.
I used to run a dozen traps every morning, a short string, but I could get $100 for every live, healthy coyote, $75 for a red fox, $50 for a gray fox and $30 a coon. Even could get $15 for possum. Yotes and fox went to fox pens, coons and possums usually into cook pots. I could pick up $200 every morning before I even started working:smiley:
If you want some excitement, try getting a mad yote out of a rubber jaw leg hold trap. Although I think I’d rather deal with a yote than a big coon Nothing has ever left hash marks on me like a few coons I’ve met have:smiley:
And if you really want a fight, try getting a buzzard out of a coyote trap. I tried for a catch and release once on a buzzard. Never again:face_with_head_bandage:
Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats
“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose
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Originally posted by TacomaHere is something to think about. Everyone that wants to ban dog hunting just wait till the coyote population doubles. You don’t relies how many are trapped each year and sold to fox pens and who you think runs in them? Dog hunters in the off season. Trappers are not going trap for a $10 fur. Reckon have to find some broke coyote dogs for future hunting.
Tacoma, I help out with a Fox/coyote pen. Nobody that I know runs their deer dogs. You have dogs that are trained for deer, then some that are trained for coons, squirrel, rabbit, hog, some retrieve ducks, quial, and dove, while others merely point out birds.
I don’t think banning dogs running deer will cause coyotes to magically have a population explosion. The ban is for hunting deer with dogs, not banning all dog use.
As a last statement, I believe it is the still hunters that are more concerned with coyote population than the majority of dog hunters. If hunting deer with dogs were to be banned, I would guess the true hunters that use dogs would adapt to the law in order to be able to hunt.
Yep. A deer dog runs deer, and a rabbit dog runs rabbit, coon dogs tree coons, quail dogs point quail, retrievers fetch ducks and doves, and fox pen dogs run fox and coyote. Which dogs do you want to outlaw?
Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats
“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose
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Originally posted by Creek SnakeI take that trade anyday pitviper.Thats what food plots are made for.
Ummm… Foodplot=Bait?
A bad day fishing is much better than a good day at work.
Here’s what constitutes baiting
http://lucky-buck.com/state-regulation-list-baiting-feeding
Fred pretty much everyone I know that owns dogs runs them both in the pen and on deer. You are not going to let them sit in a pen 8 months. I used to lease a 300 acre fox pen and when deer season came in it got booked maybe 1 time a week but when Jan came I had people wanting to run 7 days a week. I remember when a coyote was worth $150 now they are $75. But maybe I have know clue what I’m talking about.
I didnt think you could ever run dogs in the upstate. I growed up still hunting and never been on a dog hunt for anything other than rabbits. As long as there is enough land and everyone can get along its good with me especially cause I dont have to deal with it. Worst thing that has happened in the upstate latley was legalizing baiting/corn. Now there’s a f/up.Also heard the season is gonna come in earlier next year.
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