My position on this has never changed. I’ve been on a couple of dog hunts when I was in a club in Jacksonboro that leased 8000 acres and it was fun.
However, I am a still hunter.
I only care about dog hunting when it infringes on my hunting which was often in the past.
I don’t care if you bait or if you use hand grenades to hunt on your land. Just stay off mine.
Since most dog hunters I knew did not care about property lines and some actually specifically set up to run their dogs through others property and waited on the other side is why it will come to an end in the near future.
Hunting, fishing, and poker are my sports. Work when necessary.
quote:anything growing out of the ground will never be considered bait.
In GA, it has to be considered as a “normal” farming practice not to be legally termed bait. Bush hogging a corn or wheat field before combining would be considered baiting.
Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats
“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose
Fred pretty much everyone I know that owns dogs runs them both in the pen and on deer. You are not going to let them sit in a pen 8 months. I used to lease a 300 acre fox pen and when deer season came in it got booked maybe 1 time a week but when Jan came I had people wanting to run 7 days a week. I remember when a coyote was worth $150 now they are $75. But maybe I have know clue what I’m talking about.
Guess I was just thinking that outlawing hunting deer with dogs won’t change the coyote population. If anything It may help bring hunters together to trap and kill more coyotes. The Pen I’m associated with has no dogs used for deer hunting in it.
Come to think of it, I would have to search around to get on a dog hunt if i cared to now a days.
SO to eliminate baiting, pitviper, you say no food plots? Ignorant.
SO the fact I spend thousands every year to provide food plots to ALL wildlife on my property is baiting? I raise 15 deer for every 1 we harvest. Should I not be allowed to grow a larger and healthier heard of deer, turkey, etc when all around me cutting of natural habitat (i.e. hardwoods replanted in pines and then sprayed to allow zero undergrowth)is going on to provide lumber for more urban sprawl to take away more native habitat. That’s a special kind of thinking right there sir!!!
FYI, it is also still probably baiting if you dump out 10 cornpiles to turn loose a pack of dogs on the next day where there is fresh tracks. Just saying!
invaded by dogs and idiots blowing horns on the property line again last night! Wouldn’t be so pissed if they didn’t have 5000 acres but put corn on the property line! Renegade hunter act my ass…
Horn blowing doesn’t bother the deer as much as it bothers you
Seriously, I haven’t heard any horn blowing on dog drives since cell phones were invented. We used to do it to signal the drive was over. Now we just text.
Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats
“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose
Florida actually, never dog hunted for deer until I moved here after 22 years in the Navy. Ran the crap out of hog dogs before hogging became so popular. This was when land to hunt with dogs was plentiful. What’s the point there? My kids were born here…I pay taxes here…I live here…I’m an American born, bred, and bled…SO don’t give me some HAPPY HORSE CRAP OF THIS IS HOW WE DO IT IN THE SOUTH!!!
ANd Cracker Larry, this is how they try to keep the dogs from crossing the road onto our property, at least that’s what they tell me, you say they are lying to me?
Respect is what respect does. And BTW, most of these guys I’m talking about drive by with out of state tags, and that should really piss off the NATIVES for giving the sport a bad name, not me. Going bowhunting now, have a good one…
quote:ANd Cracker Larry, this is how they try to keep the dogs from crossing the road onto our property, at least that's what they tell me, you say they are lying to me?
I’ve never known a blowing horn to stop a dog from crossing a road, or known of horns to be used for that. We used to toot at the beginning of a drive to signal the standers that the dogs were out, and again at the end of the drive to wrap it up. I aint accusing anyone of lying to you though.
A lot of the dog hunters are from Florida and lease a lot of land around here, I don’t know how FL hunters act, but I’ve never seen a dog in SC or GA not cross a road because of a blowing horn.
I think they are just messing with you
Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats
“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose
quote:ANd Cracker Larry, this is how they try to keep the dogs from crossing the road onto our property, at least that's what they tell me, you say they are lying to me?
I’ve never known a blowing horn to stop a dog from crossing a road, or known of horns to be used for that. We used to toot at the beginning of a drive to signal the standers that the dogs were out, and again at the end of the drive to wrap it up. I aint accusing anyone of lying to you though.
A lot of the dog hunters are from Florida and lease a lot of land around here, I don’t know how FL hunters act, but I’ve never seen a dog in SC or GA not cross a road because of a blowing horn.
I think they are just messing with you
Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats
“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose
…WHICH IS WHAT SOME OF THEM LIKE TO DO AND THAT IS WHEN THINGS GO SOUTH.
Political correctness will have nothing to do with the end of dogging…which is coming. It will be ushered in by the ignorance and a sense of entitlement because of “tradition” that has infested the ranks of dog hunters. It used to be a matter a “few bad apples.” Now it’s more like the majority of orchard…
I’m all about any legal form of hunting. While I have been on a couple of dog drives, I am not a practicing participant, but again, as long as it is legal, and done respectfully, I will not call for its termination. That said, when irresponsibility and ignorance bring about its death, I will not shed a tear.
It won’t hurt my feelings a bit either to see it go. I’m not into it at all any more, but most of my neighbors on surrounding properties are. It’s a tradition and way of life with them, they love to hear those hounds run. Deer, coon, fox, rabbit, coyote, whatever, the sport is more about the dogs than the deer. And they do try to keep their dogs in bounds, it just isn’t always possible.
I live in the middle of dog hunting country, therefore I have learned to get along. 20 years ago I bought 100 acres of woods and swamp, built a house, thinking I would have my own little private still hunting land. Little did I know that I was surrounded by 5 dog clubs. We’ve all learned to get along just fine. It took a while
Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats
“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose
1)permits issued to clubs with 1000 contiguous acres
2)dogs MUST remain on property
3)permits can be revoke due to non compliance of law.
Read where SC DNR had meeting and dog hunters agreeable to law WITHOUT acreage restrictions.To me ,acreage restriction is key component of law.How can one expect a dog club to keep their dogs on their permitted property when they are driving 40-50 acres.
Current SC law says its not a violation for a clubs dogs to run on property they don’t have permission to hunt on as long as they face property they do have permission to hunt on.So that means the adjoining club can run their dogs on my property as long as they keep their back to my property.BRILLIANT!
