I mean, I get it -

Inshore surface water temperatures are important to y’all. That’s fabulous. I won’t debate it anymore. Except with my old friends who used to fish, and catch fish, before there were depth finders, side scan, surface temperature gauges, gps, internet reports, smartphones, and hold on, even paddle tail grubs…

My go to grub is still a gray curly tail with glitter and I’m not sure I’ve ever caught a fish on the electric chicken even though I tried when they were the got to have grub. Of course I’m not a guy who slays the fish either and don’t have near the ability some of these posters do but I remember when a fancy trout boat had a flasher depth recorder.

Exactly!

Lol my water thermometer has read 99 degrees F for the past four years. Fish don’t seem to mind

Milla, I heard they like warm water. ha ha ha

2005 Sea Hunt 212 Triton
“Head East”

I get it too dude. You target a select number of inshore species and have a good feel for how you need to fish in order to target them. ALL species act differently in different water temps. and to deny that goes against all derived wisdom. Sheeps, flounder, trout, cobia, spades, kings, spanish, etc. are very much more easily patterned per water temps. Freshwater bass, crappie, catfish, bream, and stripers also have specific thresholds where they change patterns. When you try to make someone feel small for being interested in water temps, you in turn make yourself look small.

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Originally posted by Hoppy

Inshore surface water temperatures are important to y’all. That’s fabulous. I won’t debate it anymore. Except with my old friends who used to fish, and catch fish, before there were depth finders, side scan, surface temperature gauges, gps, internet reports, smartphones, and hold on, even paddle tail grubs…


[quote]Originally posted by RADDADDY

When you try to make someone feel small for being interested in water temps, you in turn make yourself look small.

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Sad. All I was saying is things are what they are, and somethings you can’t control. Also to reconfirm that technology is no replacement for time on the water with a rod in ones hand

No one said anything about being able to “control” water temp…in either “water temp” thread. They’ve merely commented on how water temp impacts the fish, which it in fact does. Fish (being cold blooded) and their behavior/patterns are greatly and most definitely impacted by water temp. It’s a scientific fact. Knowing how water temp impacts the fish can help you locate/pattern fish which makes it exponentially easier to catch fish. Again, everyone knows they can’t “control” atmospheric conditions or “control” water temp but they can learn from them.

In the future, where every stranger poses a potential threat, knowing the predator mindset is the only safe haven.

Xpress H20B Bay Series
Yamaha 115 SHO

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Originally posted by archer

Knowing how water temp impacts the fish can help you locate/pattern fish which makes it exponentially easier to catch fish.


Elaborate please. Especially exponentially easier to catch fish.

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Originally posted by Hoppy

Inshore surface water temperatures are important to y’all. That’s fabulous. I won’t debate it anymore. Except with my old friends who used to fish, and catch fish, before there were depth finders, side scan, surface temperature gauges, gps, internet reports, smartphones, and hold on, even paddle tail grubs…


You and your curly tails!!! You don’t get respect without a tackle box full of chug bugs and lucky 13’s! Fancy plastic… psssht!

Mayhem
Pioneer 197

Yeah, Hoppy, and I’m quite sure I have had as much time on the water of anyone on this site in the past 10 years. The really sad part is getting your kicks by trying to make people feel inferior when simply asking very relevant fishing questions on this site.

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Originally posted by Hoppy

[quote]Originally posted by RADDADDY

When you try to make someone feel small for being interested in water temps, you in turn make yourself look small.

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Sad. All I was saying is things are what they are, and somethings you can’t control. Also to reconfirm that technology is no replacement for time on the water with a rod in ones hand


Hoppy,
If you can’t locate/pattern fish, you can’t catch’em. We’ve all heard the saying “90% of the fish live in 10% of the water.” well, if you’re looking in the 90% of the water where the fish aren’t, you’re not going to catch them. Gathering as much intel to help you locate that “10%” of the water, will help you be more successful in your fishing venture. Water temp is one important piece of the puzzle when it comes to locating fish and narrowing down a pattern. When searching for anything, the more “clues” you have, the easier it will be to find it.

All this being said, I’m not telling you anything you don’t know. It’s pretty obvious as to why you’re asking for elaboration. You’re simply trolling for something you can pounce on and attempt to debunk or discredit all while bragging about how you catch fish with your bare hands from your hand-dug canoe using the most primitive tackle that dates back to the Mesozoic period.

In the future, where every stranger poses a potential threat, knowing the predator mindset is the only safe haven.

Xpress H20B Bay Series
Yamaha 115 SHO

Ding, Ding, Ding!!! We have a winner!

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Originally posted by archer

Hoppy,
If you can’t locate/pattern fish, you can’t catch’em. We’ve all heard the saying “90% of the fish live in 10% of the water.” well, if you’re looking in the 90% of the water where the fish aren’t, you’re not gouing to catch them. Gathering as much intel to help you locate that “10%” of the water, will help you be more successful in your fishing venture, exponentially. Water temp is one important piece of the puzzle when it comes to locating narrowing down a pattern. When searching for anything, the more “clues” you have, the easier it will be to find it.

All this being said, I’m not telling you anything you don’t know. It’s pretty obvious as to why you’re asking for elaboration. You’re simply trolling for something you can pounce on and attempt to debunk or discredit all while bragging about how you catch fish with your bare hands from your hand-dug canoe using the most primitive tackle that dates back to the Mesozoic period.

In the future, where every stranger poses a potential threat, knowing the predator mindset is the only safe haven.

Xpress H20B Bay Series
Yamaha 115 SHO


never recorded water temp before, but its interesting to think about as another variable. kinda like some people just enjoy bringing scoresheets to baseball games.

best way to record w/out depthfinder? tie off a thermometer and let is sit in the water? what depth? I want to start.

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Originally posted by archer

Hoppy,
If you can’t locate/pattern fish, you can’t catch’em. We’ve all heard the saying “90% of the fish live in 10% of the water.” well, if you’re looking in the 90% of the water where the fish aren’t, you’re not going to catch them. Gathering as much intel to help you locate that “10%” of the water, will help you be more successful in your fishing venture. Water temp is one important piece of the puzzle when it comes to locating fish and narrowing down a pattern. When searching for anything, the more “clues” you have, the easier it will be to find it.

All this being said, I’m not telling you anything you don’t know. It’s pretty obvious as to why you’re asking for elaboration. You’re simply trolling for something you can pounce on and attempt to debunk or discredit all while bragging about how you catch fish with your bare hands from your hand-dug canoe using the most primitive tackle that dates back to the Mesozoic period.

In the future, where every stranger poses a potential threat, knowing the predator mindset is the only safe haven.

Xpress H20B Bay Series
Yamaha 115 SHO


One of the easiest methods to find fish is just to fish where you see others fishing. Takes a lot of the guess work out of it. I've done it.

Down here is where a signature goes but they can confuse and anger some people so I don’t have one.

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Originally posted by CaptFritz
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Originally posted by archer

Hoppy,
If you can’t locate/pattern fish, you can’t catch’em. We’ve all heard the saying “90% of the fish live in 10% of the water.” well, if you’re looking in the 90% of the water where the fish aren’t, you’re not going to catch them. Gathering as much intel to help you locate that “10%” of the water, will help you be more successful in your fishing venture. Water temp is one important piece of the puzzle when it comes to locating fish and narrowing down a pattern. When searching for anything, the more “clues” you have, the easier it will be to find it.

All this being said, I’m not telling you anything you don’t know. It’s pretty obvious as to why you’re asking for elaboration. You’re simply trolling for something you can pounce on and attempt to debunk or discredit all while bragging about how you catch fish with your bare hands from your hand-dug canoe using the most primitive tackle that dates back to the Mesozoic period.

In the future, where every stranger poses a potential threat, knowing the predator mindset is the only safe haven.

Xpress H20B Bay Series
Yamaha 115 SHO


One of the easiest methods to find fish is just to fish where you see others fishing. Takes a lot of the guess work out of it. I've done it.

Down here is where a signature goes but they can confuse and anger some people so I don’t have one.


There’s always some guy with long blonde hair in my fishing spots…???.. Is that what’s going on?

Mayhem
Pioneer 197

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One of the easiest methods to find fish is just to fish where you see others fishing. Takes a lot of the guess work out of it. I've done it.

If I see someone fishing a spot, how do I know it isn’t just some dope like me? Funny though, I see someone fishing an area and think, "there must be fish there’ and then remember I have spent many a day chasing fish to no avail.

“Apathy is the Glove into Which Evil Slips It’s Hand”, but really, who cares?

Good ole Hoppy never met an argument he did not like and if he could not find one he will start one. Nobody has said water temps take the place of time on the water. We get it you are a proficient fisherman that does not care what the water temperature is. You know where to go in all of the different seasons, because that is how we all did it growing up. Many people like to keep track of all kind of variables when fishing and many have success by using those variables so I say who cares if you don’t think temperature matters and someone else does. At the end of the day catching more fish does not make anyone any better than they guy who struggles to catch fish. It is just fishing…

I keep on saying if it’s important to you then I think that’s fantastic. If it makes you a better fisherman, that’s fab too. I’ve never once in all these posts said I was a better fisherman than anyone, not as good a fisherman, more skilled, etc. All I have said is that I don’t believe surface water temps are as critical of information as people believe it is and my logic is solid. That said, one of the best weapons we have is confidence, and if the surface water temperature makes you a more confident fisherman, then yes, it’s very important to you!

Sometimes if you get the right bait you can have guides get right in your boat, and it’s not even necessary to guide scout.

he was hoping for chillier surface temps