jetties

Saltwater Inshore Discussion
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Originally posted by mac daddy

OK guys, I ASSUMED he has NEVER been to the jetties. IF NOT, we all know the tendency to get CLOSE to the rocks, most of us DID THAT the first trip to the jetties.

STOP treating first timers like they know, or will listen. After all guys, he IS going ti the jetties on the 4th, after being told NO NO.

You can tell him not to go to the jetties all you want but that will not necessarily change his mind. Let him go and make his own decision on if it is too much of a circus. Obviously many people do not mind the congestion and headaches of the jetties on a holiday weekend. Also keep in mind he does not have the liberty of living local as some of us do and cannot just go jump on the water at any time. Many people have work, family and distance constraints that do not allow them to get on the water except for special occasions and holidays.
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So, you PROS realize who or what you are dealing with, and his reply shows us he liked my suggestions, but you jerks just had to act professional.

PROS do not go in the ocean on the 4th, unless they are paid to do so.

Plenty of "PROS" go in the water on the 4th. They are the ones who are smarter about it and pick the proper time and location to go out.
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Please engage brain BEFORE engaging keyboard, I was not giving pro advice, for obvious reasons, neither do I consider myself a pro, just being helpful.

I STILL lose anchors at the grillage, so do many others, this guy could EASILY end up at the grillage, r

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I want to see you pull a 30-40lb anything back up to the boat when you get done fishing, too. No need to leave any more snags on the bottom. Make sure you have at least 6’ of chain on your normal anchor and you’ll be just fine.

As to the fishing, take plenty of lead, sometimes it may take 6-8oz to hold your bait down. The current really rips through there. Shrimp, cut mullet, menhaden or sqid all will draw interest from something. Also don’t be afraid to put some on a cork and float them past the rocks, trout love those rocks.

'06 Mckee Craft
184 Marathon
DF140 Suzuki

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I want to see you pull a 30-40lb anything back up to the boat when you get done fishing, too.

He doesn’t pull them in, he just cuts his cheap poly line and leaves it for the next fisherman to get it wrapped in their prop.

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Who in their right mind is going to carry around a 30-40lb hunk of anything to use as an anchor, let alone multiple to have as backups?

I think you got to the root of the problem right there :smiley:

Capt. Larry Teuton
Swamp Worshiper

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I will remind everyone of what Penny posted recently, quote:
“The thing that bothers me is when someone posts something, and people jump in criticising, and pointing fingers”.

Penny is VERY respected here, and she knows there is a right and wrong way to reply, even if you think the post was ridiculous, no right to be a jerk, UNLESS you were personally attacked, and I was.

The OP now has two options, he can choose what he wants.

The opinions of locals usually IS correct, but usually is expensive, especially for a tourist who may or may not ever use that anchor again.

He most likely does not want to spend over $100 for a once a year anchor, or maybe he does, now he has options, rather than JUST give him the professional option that is expensive.

You guys give a one anchor, expensive option, where if he loses it, he is done fishing at the jetties.

I give him an inexpensive option with two or more anchors, which, by the way, is ALWAYS recommended to have more than one anchor, NO ONE mentioned that very important advice.

So you want the guy to spend $200 or more on anchors for once a year fishing.

Storing scrap parts on a boat doesn’t take as much or more usually than a plow anchor for sure.

The junk on bottom and rope in the prop happens every weekend in that area as is, if you fish the structure rather than the sand bottom.

Doesn’t take a pro to know structure is ALWAYS better than sand bottom, so I am always fishing over rocky bottom in that area, including the Dynamite Hole, and the Grillage, both have good structure.

My personal anchor choice now is reef anchor, sure it slips in sand, but it will catch rocks in all those areas, haven’t lost a reef anchor yet. Again $100 ormore fora tourist fisherman, give him options.

There are enough danforth anchors in that area on the bottom to stock Cabela’s warehouse probably.

So, we can shout insults or just give opinions on a opinion forum, as Penny said “get nice”.

“The big one’s still swimming, let’s go.”

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Just a few things to keep in mind.

Best time to fish is 1 hour before and 1 hour after a tide change. Currents can be wicked at mid tides.

Best protection from ship and sporty wakes is to fish the outside of the jetties. Don’t expect sportys to slow down - they throw big wakes than can throw you on the rocks if you anchor too close without a good anchor set.

Access the south side of the jetty at the Dynamite Hole…be aware of that large hidden sandbar - stay in the channel until you can make a clear run between the red and green bouys.

There can be large waves at the entrance to the jetties from the harbor, especially during mid-tide.

Grillage (N) Def.: Great place to lose an anchor.

If you fish the flats inside the jetties (between the bouys and rocks) you can catch whiting, black sea bass, redfish on squid, shrimp or manhaden. Oh…and Sharpnosed Sharks.

Have fun, be safe.

“I am constantly amazed at the stupidity of the general public.”
~my dad

Equipment:
190cc Sea Pro w/130 Johnson
1- 20 year old (boy of leisure)
1 - 17 year old (fishing maniac)
1 - wife (The Warden)

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Originally posted by mac daddy

The opinions of locals usually IS correct, but usually is expensive, especially for a tourist who may or may not ever use that anchor again.

He most likely does not want to spend over $100 for a once a year anchor, or maybe he does, now he has options, rather than JUST give him the professional option that is expensive.

You guys give a one anchor, expensive option, where if he loses it, he is done fishing at the jetties.

I give him an inexpensive option with two or more anchors, which, by the way, is ALWAYS recommended to have more than one anchor, NO ONE mentioned that very important advice.

So you want the guy to spend $200 or more on anchors for once a year fishing.

Storing scrap parts on a boat doesn’t take as much or more usually than a plow anchor for sure.

The junk on bottom and rope in the prop happens every weekend in that area as is, if you fish the structure rather than the sand bottom.

Doesn’t take a pro to know structure is ALWAYS better than sand bottom, so I am always fishing over rocky bottom in that area, including the Dynamite Hole, and the Grillage, both have good structure.

I believe you are very miseducated on your anchors. Larry and I are speaking of the claw or bruce style anchors. Quite inexpensive for their size and holding power. They also have the ability to be rigged to trip so if they do get stuck you will not lose them. The 4.4 and 11lb both take up less space than a cinder block(s) and are lighter. You refer to a plow anchor. Much heavier for the same holding power and much more expensive. I use my claw anchors everywhere. I only carry a danforth as a backup and have never had to use it yet.

And we all know they can be found cheaper but just for reference:
http://www.westmarine.com/lewmar--high-tensile-steel-cla

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Outstanding post, Claim. NOTICE GUYS, grillage, “great place to LOSE AN ANCHOR, so, there goes “never lost an anchor”, or” WHY use scrap metal to anchor"???

Apologies owed, and accepted, for the ‘personal attacks’, your advice was good for a second option, no problem.

Thanks again, Claim, I didn’t have access to your chart, that was EXCELLENT!!!###

“The big one’s still swimming, let’s go.”

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Not trying to steal a post but, I have always used a Danforth style (Super Hooker) anchor. Is that claw anchor an “all-purpose” anchor? Better all around, or just around reefs and rocks? Heading to the Keys in July and if that is a better anchor to use around the reefs I’ll look in to getting one.

“Apathy is the Glove into Which Evil Slips It’s Hand”.

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DF, no question, reef anchor for reefs imo, thus the name. I don’t know about the claw, but fishing reefs without a reef anchor would be tough, I imagine.

“The big one’s still swimming, let’s go.”

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Is that claw anchor an "all-purpose" anchor? Better all around, or just around reefs and rocks? Heading to the Keys in July and if that is a better anchor to use around the reefs I'll look in to getting one.

Yes, it is much better as an all around anchor, it will hold in any bottom. Danforths are sand anchors and I’ve pretzeled many on them in rocks and coral. In the Keys all we use is the claw. If you rig it to trip as pictured you can always (so far) get it back. And for the record I’ve had this anchor for over 20 years and it’s on it’s 4th boat. Haven’t lost it yet:smiley:

DF, you can swing by and pick up mine to take to the Keys, if you want to try it. I ain’t scared you’ll lose it, don’t care if you do. You will kill a danforth quick in the Keys.

Capt. Larry Teuton
Swamp Worshiper

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DF, no question, reef anchor for reefs imo, thus the name. I don't know about the claw, but fishing reefs without a reef anchor would be tough, I imagine.

Funny, this same claw has fished our offshore reefs, on 3 different charter boats for 20 years and 3,000 offshore charters. Never bent it, never lost it. Mac Daddy imagines a lot. My info is solid. Yall be the judge, I ain’t arguing with him any more.

Capt. Larry Teuton
Swamp Worshiper

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Mac, looks like you have to deal with some real big men here. They don’t sound big to me. Idealism & technicalities don’t distinguish real men. ACTIONS DO!! Rock on Mac Daddy!

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First off, I could come back on this post with alot of rude things to say since some people dont know how to answer a simple question without being a you know what. I simply asked best time of day to go to jetties and best tide. Reason for asking because I haven’t been to the jetties In over 3 years so wanted to go and do a little fishing for a day. So the respectful thing to do was answer the question with helpful advice or shutup. That’s whats wrong with some people on here cant be helpful to those that are asking for a little help. First off, I stay upstate and don’t get to fish the coast like alot of you guys do so that’s why we ask questions when it come to saltwater fishing because we fish mainly freshwater. As far as center blocks and rims I wish I would load that isshh in my center console and head to the jetties to anchor down. My boat is equipped with 3 anchors also for your info. Thanks to those that gave helpful info.Some of you guys on this website are a bunch of ********s. We do appreciate the ones on this site that reach out to help others.YOU GUYS ARE TOOO FUNNY.

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I simply asked best time of day to go to jetties and best tide. Reason for asking because I haven't been to the jetties In over 3 years so wanted to go and do a little fishing for a day. So the respectful thing to do was answer the question with helpful advice or shutup. That's whats wrong with some people on here cant be helpful to those that are asking for a little help

I would pay more attention to the tides, moon and solunar tables for the best time of day. An hour or 2 either side of high tide or low tide, when the current is less, but not stopped. It rips through there on mid tides.

Fish might bite better at dawn and sunset on topwater plugs for trout, but you aren’t likely to do that at the jetties. Plan your trip 2 hours either side of slack tides, whatever time of day that may be. On the slack high and low, expect the bite to quit for an hour until the water starts moving again.

Capt. Larry Teuton
Swamp Worshiper

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Claim, appreciate the picture. Very helpful. I will definitely keep all this info in mind whenever we are down in charleston and fishing dynamite hole, grillage and the jetties…

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Mac, looks like you have to deal with some real big men here. They don't sound big to me. Idealism & technicalities don't distinguish real men. ACTIONS DO!! Rock on Mac Daddy!

Kissing noises.

Quite an astute observation coming from someone with 11 whole posts.

“Apathy is the Glove into Which Evil Slips It’s Hand”.

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gonefishing…I said 1 hour before and after tide change, but I’d heed Cracker Larry’s advice more. The bite will diminish at dead slack and you’ll want to maximize your time on the water. When you anchor, pay close attention to the wind and the current, especially near the rocks…it won’t make a hellofalot of difference if you are far from the rocks.

If you decide to net some menhaden between Fort Sumter and Morris Island, be aware that a lot of the northern tip of Morris Island has been washed away by storms, but the sand bar extends far out from the beach.

When the wind and tides are moving in opposite directions, the area near the Grillage will be like a washing machine.

You’ll see plenty of boats anchored off Sullivan’s Island across from Fort Sumter harbor (not Grillage) and boats in the harbor all along the shipping channel - those guys are looking for the bull reds, sharks or whiting…no need to get beat up if the conditions are not ideal for your boat at the jetties.

I’m looking forward to your pictures.

“I am constantly amazed at the stupidity of the general public.”
~my dad

Equipment:
190cc Sea Pro w/130 Johnson
1- 20 year old (boy of leisure)
1 - 17 year old (fishing maniac)
1 - wife (The Warden)

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Thanks Claim… Yes if weather and conditions are not right please believe my butt will not be nowhere near the jetties, lol. To far of a ride for a ugly ride and rough fishing… thanks again guys

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While I’m at it…I’m always seeing people get stuck on the mud flats around Shem Creek and the ICW. Hope this helps:

“I am constantly amazed at the stupidity of the general public.”
~my dad

Equipment:
190cc Sea Pro w/130 Johnson
1- 20 year old (boy of leisure)
1 - 17 year old (fishing maniac)
1 - wife (The Warden)

ECFC

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Great pictures and information Claim. Well done.

Capt. Larry Teuton
Swamp Worshiper