King Fishing off of Folly Beach Peir questions...

I have a few questions regarding King fishing off of the Folly Beach pier. I have grown up going to the Panhandle of Florida and fishing for Kings there. In the Panhandle they do not allow set rods and trolley rigs. Snobbling dead baits or live lining live bait is the only way to fish for Kings off the piers down there. Well, there is this slight oil spill down there that will ruin my fishing grounds this year and for a few more years to come most likely. So I looks as if I am headed to Charleston for vacation in July instead.

If my memory serves me correctly, trolley rigs are about the only way people fish off of the pier for kings there. I’ve only been there once, a few years back and I don’t remember seeing anything but trolley rigs.I have a couple 9-10ft surf rods for a anchor rod, but will have to find a large enough reel throw on my boat rod to use as a fighting rod. I guess my main question is do people not liveline baits, or snobble baits out there for kings? I’ve only been there once and it was a few years back and I don’t remember seeing anything but trolley rigs. I’m coming up there July 10th-17th and would like to be somewhat prepared and not walk out to the diamond looking like a complete idiot.

Thanks for any help,
Jamie

In the king area (roped off area), you are only allowed to trolley rig. Can fish any way you want on the rest of the pier.

i love fishing the okaloosa pier outside of destin. over here on the east coast pier fishing is a totaly different animal. trolley rods is the way to go for one thing you won’t see anywhere the numbers of fish over here.

green grass and high tides forever
jhp----- Murrells Inlet

Trolley rigs. Your 10’ surf rods should suffice (1 set up per person on the weekends :rolling eyes:)

Need a reel that will hold a minimum of 400 yrds of line, 500-600 is best. They have anchors at the gift shop or you can make them yourself. If you can pour lead, then get some acoustic tile hangers (home depot/lowes - white box - $9.99 for 100) and you can make up some anchors using those, lead and some conduit or copper pipe. Just need a release.

Most of us use shower curtain rigs, I think it’s 180lb Malin wire, colored bobber, 2-3oz weight. If you don’t know how to make em, let us know and someone can post a pic of it.

Sucks about the oil. Saw something that said the current could bring it up the east coast. Hope that isn’t true

  • Steve
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Originally posted by badbronco

Most of us use shower curtain rigs, I think it’s 180lb Malin wire, colored bobber, 2-3oz weight. If you don’t know how to make em, let us know and someone can post a pic of it.

  • Steve

The shower curtain rig is something i am not familiar with. Any further explanation would greatly be appreciated.

Also, what is used for baits regularly there. In the gulf we use cigar minnows and hard tails primarily.

Tks
-Jamie

Jamie,

Best advice is to go out there. Look for the biggest bunch of goobers. That’s us. I personally won’t be out this weekend, working. But, anyone one out there will happily answer any questions.

Shower curtain ring… line… ( some people put a weight in between… then a clothes pin. Shower curtain ring attaches to the anchor line… Clothes pin attaches to the barrel swivel on your fighting rod leader. Fish hits… clothes pin releases. Some people use wound piano wire as a release too but i’ll let someone else explain that one.

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Originally posted by izzydone

Jamie,

Best advice is to go out there. Look for the biggest bunch of goobers. That’s us. I personally won’t be out this weekend, working. But, anyone one out there will happily answer any questions.


I won’t be up there until Jul 10-17. I’m just trying to get a handle on what I need to have with me when I come. I’m sure I’ll still have to ask questions when I get there.

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Originally posted by Private Island

Shower curtain ring… line… ( some people put a weight in between… then a clothes pin. Shower curtain ring attaches to the anchor line… Clothes pin attaches to the barrel swivel on your fighting rod leader. Fish hits… clothes pin releases. Some people use wound piano wire as a release too but i’ll let someone else explain that one.


Thanks. That puts it into a little better perspective for me.

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Originally posted by Private Island

Shower curtain ring… line… ( some people put a weight in between… then a clothes pin. Shower curtain ring attaches to the anchor line… Clothes pin attaches to the barrel swivel on your fighting rod leader. Fish hits… clothes pin releases. Some people use wound piano wire as a release too but i’ll let someone else explain that one.


I wonder what they do with the piano when it runs out of wire:question:

Fish tremble at the mention of my name.

I’m hoping to get down there sometime around labor day or a bit earlier. Dont catch all the kings before then.

Ok. Here’s my attempt to get you what you’re looking for.

What I use is a shower curtain ring, 180 lb malin wire
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_8581_151005009_151000000_151005000_151-5-9

You cut a piece about 10" long and bend it in half. Slide a snap swivel up then a bead etc…float, bead 2-3 oz weight bead, then bend the 2 tines out like in the picture. Cut them however long you want them to be. Some people make these different sizes depending on the wind and how it’s blowing…Some people use clothespins, some use rubberbands. It’s all preference.

I would suggest going to Walmart or a tackle shop and get some sabiki rigs (Picastor at Walmart). They’re usually $1.50 - $3.00 each if you’re unable to tie your own. Bring some bait rods too. We normally bait fish throughout the day.

For leaders, it might be easier to buy some 43 or 61 pound Malin Wire, some 4x Strong treble hooks, swivels etc and one of us can show you how to make the rigs here.

  • Steve
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Originally posted by IndyJr

I’m hoping to get down there sometime around labor day or a bit earlier. Dont catch all the kings before then.


Right now, it appears we are saving all of them.

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Originally posted by badbronco

You cut a piece about 10" long and bend it in half. Slide a snap swivel up then a bead etc…float, bead 2-3 oz weight bead, then bend the 2 tines out like in the picture. Cut them however long you want them to be. Some people make these different sizes depending on the wind and how it’s blowing…Some people use clothespins, some use rubberbands. It’s all preference.

I would suggest going to Walmart or a tackle shop and get some sabiki rigs (Picastor at Walmart). They’re usually $1.50 - $3.00 each if you’re unable to tie your own. Bring some bait rods too. We normally bait fish throughout the day.

For leaders, it might be easier to buy some 43 or 61 pound Malin Wire, some 4x Strong treble hooks, swivels etc and one of us can show you how to make the rigs here.

  • Steve

Thanks for the pic Steve. I can definitely make up some of those before I come. Now as how to use them…somebody might have to show me when I get there [:I]. I can definitely tell this trip is going to be a learning experience. This way of fishing is completely different then the way I was taught to fish in the gulf. I’m looking forward to it.

-Jamie

The “TINES” at the bottom of the release go through the swivel on your leader which is hooked to the other rod (fighting rod). When the bait gets hit, and the fish runs with it, it pulls the leader off the “tines” on the release clip. The release falls down to your anchor and you get that back at the end of the day. Once released, you’re fighting him on a rod with 400yds minmum line, capable of catching a biggun (TLD25, 30, etc). More line the better :slight_smile:

Just make sure you get:

Leader Material (40-60lb wire)
4x Strong Treble Hooks (Eagle Claw is what I use)
Swivels
Various egg sinker weights
various pyramid weights (for bait fishing)
Sabiki rigs

The pier sells some of the stuff if need be, and Haddrells Point Tackle isn’t too far away. Depending on how long you’ll be here, the first day may be more of a learning excercise than an actual King fishing excercise but trust me… it’s worth the tuition :slight_smile:

The goobers will get ya straight :slight_smile:

  • Steve

Okay so here is what I use, A 12 food rod with 25 pound test. I put about a three foot 50 pound shock leader using a spro swivel to connect the two. I use 60 pound wire with Gamakatsu hooks sizes 2 and four for kings and 4 and six for spanish and bluefish. Spro swivels are the best because the smallest one has a pound test of 90LB. the three hook rig end of your 4-6 foot wire leader should look like this x-----x------x. Connect your first hook to the wire leader and connect the stinger and trailing hook to the first hook. Some people use weights but as a wise man once told me. The less the king can see the better. Ohh and pier clamps are a good thing to have too. Leashes to hold your rod to keep it from going over on the strike and a smaller rod about light-med with 15 pound test for those bait fish.

98 Blazer S10 4 door piece of beauty.

alright, one more question and I believe I will be somewhat prepared. On the fighting rod, do you use straight braid, braid with a top shot of mono, or straight mono?

I use 30# mono. I like the stretch if a fish goes for a quick/hard run. A little more foregiving than braid.

Alright Guys/Gals, I will be headed to Folly this Saturday (July 10th) and staying thru the following Saturday (July 17th). I plan on doing a lot of fishing. Will spend several days on the pier, fish the surf some, and plan on renting a boat to fish inshore one day while I am there. Got my rods lined up, my floats made, leaders made, and shower curtain rings bought. Hope to see some of you that have chimed in and been helpful on this thread. -Jamie

Sounds good. I should be out there this weekend. I’m guessing the normal crew will be as well. Were you able to find sabiki rigs there? If not, they sell them here at the tackle shops and even Walmart…

  • Steve
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Originally posted by badbronco

Sounds good. I should be out there this weekend. I’m guessing the normal crew will be as well. Were you able to find sabiki rigs there? If not, they sell them here at the tackle shops and even Walmart…

  • Steve

Yep. I had several packs in my saltwater box already.