And as far as the whole “don’t overthink it” dilemma, that’s BS. If people didn’t “overthink” fishing, tackle shops would all be about the size of a kiosk in the mall and their staffs would be cut back to one or two people. Besides, “overthinking” has led to some great innovations in the fishing industry. No, it’s not a matter of “only needing” the bare necessities to catch a fish. It’s about what you have confidence in. It’s your gear, tweak it how you see fit. If what you’re running gives you confidence, use it because confidence is one of the most important things you can take to the water with you.
No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.
You propose a false dilemma (“overthinking” vs “bare necessities”). This equates to “overthinking” vs “underthinking”. There is actually a third option here though… Can someone speak up for the class?
I don’t care about “confidence”. I only care about catching fish. I know a lot of “overconfident” people who can’t catch fish. You can talk about white braid vs mahogany braid for all I care, but if you aren’t putting fish in the box, your words mean squat. I’m not overthinking anything about that comment.
PS… On the rocks. Frozen margaritas are for ladies</font id=“red”>.
At least we agree on that. Lol!!!
No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.
I was thinking of the 50 class model, my mistake. 6ft leader? I run a 40ft Plus wind on top shot. Y’all are stuck on this stupid tangent rather then the actual topic. Nearly every thread with more than a few post is loaded with the usual girls bickering I know it creates attention and more post and site traffic but its negative and seems the site has turned over the last few years and is getting pointless and useless. No one puts up good info or reports because they no the vultures will come. Keep killing the site.
Well, I’ve been here since the site opened like 15+ years ago, so if if it’s only “[been killed]” in the past couple years, it might be from the new guys giving advice on things they clearly know nothing about.
Maybe nobody has posted reports that much because it’s just now April and last year was one of the windiest on record. So, there is always that…
Just for the record, braid (no matter what color) is HIGHLY visible in water.</font id=“red”> It doesn’t matter what direction. If you are comparing it to something like a tuna, then looking down at a black back makes them almost invisible. Looking up at a white belly on a sunny day, the look like a big black silhouette. I can tell you this from personal experience, not from a magazine.
Monofilament is the most camouflage you can get. When we are spearfishing we avoid using clear monofilament because it’s dangerously invisible. We use dyneema (basically braid) and colored mono because it’s safer for us (we can see it if we get tangled in it).
Whole heartedly second this</font id=“red”>!!! Like I said, it looks like braided steel cable underwater. Like the man said, “HIGHLY visible.”
I used to let people bottom fish while I was diving. I was on a dive one day and felt something rubbing my neck. I was about 30 feet above the bottom. I looked down and I could see a rope of 80lb braid coming up attached to a bottom rig full of hooks (remember, the braid is literally sliding up my neck). I was able to see the braid as plain as day and pull it off of my neck before the hooks came flying up past my face. If it had been monofilament, my story might have been much worse since that stuff is pretty hard to see underwater!
Whole heartedly second this</font id=“red”>!!! Like I said, it looks like braided steel cable underwater. Like the man said, “HIGHLY visible.”
I used to let people bottom fish while I was diving. I was on a dive one day and felt something rubbing my neck. I was about 30 feet above the bottom. I looked down and I could see a rope of 80lb braid coming up attached to a bottom rig full of hooks (remember, the braid is literally sliding up my neck). I was able to see the braid as plain as day and pull it off of my neck before the hooks came flying up past my face. If it had been monofilament, my story might have been much worse since that stuff is pretty hard to see underwater!
OUCH! Didn’t even happen and I can feel it for you. Tug, tug, hook set, Oh crap I caught a skinnyj fish. Man, I think I would be negative on the bottom fishing if I had the stones to dive off our coast.
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quote:Originally posted by 40inchreds
The reports have fallen greatly not just from winter time. The fall had like no reports and you couldn't put a line in inshore with out pulling out a quality fish.
You know you’ve never posted an offshore report…ever.
I do remember you catching baby sea bass and grunts and your first bonita with FloridaBoy last year, but that’s all I can remember…
There’s a reason almost all surface school fish are dark on top and light on bottom, but nature and evolution has probably got that one wrong. Looking down they are dark and blend with bottom looking up the light color has blends with the sky, light, and turbulances. How many people do you know that pull white, lures, have you heard of painting your trolling weights white. I’m not saying white is the best but its not the same as the dark braids. Letting people bottom fish on top of you when your diving seems not to smart, even if your the most experienced and know everything, I have to say please be careful. The girl comment wasn’t just for skinnee it was to u also and in general for the same few names that primarily show up on post like this. The reports have fallen greatly not just from winter time. The fall had like no reports and you couldn’t put a line in inshore with out pulling out a quality fish.
Mother nature did not get it wrong. Your understanding of what mother nature did is wrong.
I’m just curious. Have you ever actually swam underneath a large pelagic in the wild? What about above one? How about next to one? I can promise you that your understanding of the coloration is incorrect. I have done all of these things. I’ve seen 100-200lb tuna in the water. And I can tell you that when you look up at a tuna that white belly (which is actually a REFLECTIVE SILVER) is as black as midnight. It’s called a “silhouette”. I can also confirm that the tuna’s black back is VERY hard to see when swimming above it or even slightly above it. Typically it’s much easier to see the finlets down the tail in murky water. And when looking from the side, that SILVER BELLY AND SIDES makes the fish very hard to see FROM THE SIDE because it REFLECTS the coloration
There’s a reason almost all surface school fish are dark on top and light on bottom, but nature and evolution has probably got that one wrong. Looking down they are dark and blend with bottom looking up the light color has blends with the sky, light, and turbulances. How many people do you know that pull white, lures, have you heard of painting your trolling weights white. I’m not saying white is the best but its not the same as the dark braids. Letting people bottom fish on top of you when your diving seems not to smart, even if your the most experienced and know everything, I have to say please be careful. The girl comment wasn’t just for skinnee it was to u also and in general for the same few names that primarily show up on post like this. The reports have fallen greatly not just from winter time. The fall had like no reports and you couldn’t put a line in inshore with out pulling out a quality fish.
You can base it on predatory colors all you want but like skinneej, I’ve seen all sorts of braid colors under water and they ALL are VERY visible. I assure you braided fishing line doesn’t respond/react to light and sky conditions like a fish’s skin does so it’s a bit of a stretch to insinuate the same principles apply. That said, like I mentioned earlier in this thread, if you feel using white braid helps you put more fish on the deck, more power to you. Contrary to skinneej, I do believe having confidence in what you’re doing and what you’re doing it with is essential to being successful.
No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.
Contrary to skinneej, I do believe having confidence in what you’re doing and what you’re doing it with is essential to being successful.
Don't get me wrong. Confidence is something that is nice to have. Some people get confidence from having great success and sticking to a plan that has caught them fish time and time again.
Then there is another sort of confidence. The kind that someone has for no reason other than they are just falsely confident. My point is that confidence in itself does not catch fish. I can tell a 9 year old that he will catch a blue marlin in lake moultrie and no matter how confident he is, that won’t happen.
Confidence is a side effect, not a technique. If someone has a lot of confidence but has never produced results, I would question if their confidence is well placed. That’s all I am saying…
Tomato - Tomato (doesn’t have the same impact when typed, huh). How about tomato/tomotto? Anyway…
Never said it was a “technique.” It can be something obtained through success while using a particular technique. A lot of people catch fish on Trout Eye jigs and Trout Tricks. I’ve caught my share of fish on that combination as well, I always carry tons of both to the water with me when I hit the salt, but if they’re not producing for me, I have a particular swimbait I go to because I have infinite confidence in it. It always produces for me. If I’m throwing a bait and in the back of my head, I’m thinking about throwing a different bait, I obviously don’t have confidence in what I’m throwing so I quit using it. Certain conditions bring about different variables that may bring to mind a different bait I have confidence in for those conditions. Point being, confidence isn’t just something pulled out of thin air. It usually stems from past experiences, more specifically past successes, so it’s not something that manifests all by itself. It is merely part of the equation but an equally important part.
As far as the kid and marlin scenario, the kid wouldn’t have confidence in catching the marlin in Lake Moultrie. The kid would have confidence in you because you told him he was going to catch a marlin. Chances are, the next time you fished with the kid and you told the kid he was going to catch something, the kid would have less confidence, if any, in you until he actually did catch something. The more times you tell them they’re going to catch something and they don’t, their confidence in you will diminish until they start catching something again.
No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.
Tomato - Tomato (doesn’t have the same impact when typed, huh). How about tomato/tomotto? Anyway…
Never said it was a “technique.” It can be something obtained through success while using a particular technique. A lot of people catch fish on Trout Eye jigs and Trout Tricks. I’ve caught my share of fish on that combination as well, I always carry tons of both to the water with me when I hit the salt, but if they’re not producing for me, I have a particular swimbait I go to because I have infinite confidence in it. It always produces for me. If I’m throwing a bait and in the back of my head, I’m thinking about throwing a different bait, I obviously don’t have confidence in what I’m throwing so I quit using it. Certain conditions bring about different variables that may bring to mind a different bait I have confidence in for those conditions. Point being, confidence isn’t just something pulled out of thin air. It usually stems from past experiences, more specifically past successes, so it’s not something that manifests all by itself. It is merely part of the equation but an equally important part.
As far as the kid and marlin scenario, the kid wouldn’t have confidence in catching the marlin in Lake Moultrie. The kid would have confidence in you because you told him he was going to catch a marlin. Chances are, the next time you fished with the kid and you told the kid he was going to catch something, the kid would have less confidence, if any, in you until he actually did catch something. The more times you tell them they’re going to catch something and they don’t, their confidence in you will diminish until they start catching something again.
No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.
I have porpoisely avoided this thread, since I don’t fish for Mahi, but have been wondering why it made it to 3 pages, I figured either Schoolie or Skinnee was involved. I was right.
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Down here is where a signature goes but they can confuse and anger some people so I don’t have one.
I have porpoisely avoided this thread, since I don’t fish for Mahi, but have been wondering why it made it to 3 pages, I figured either Schoolie or Skinnee was involved. I was right.
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Down here is where a signature goes but they can confuse and anger some people so I don’t have one.
Whatever you do, do not send my bottom numbers to 40inchredsnapper or we will never hear the end of it after he catches a decent fish.
Tomato - Tomato (doesn’t have the same impact when typed, huh). How about tomato/tomotto? Anyway…
Never said it was a “technique.” It can be something obtained through success while using a particular technique. A lot of people catch fish on Trout Eye jigs and Trout Tricks. I’ve caught my share of fish on that combination as well, I always carry tons of both to the water with me when I hit the salt, but if they’re not producing for me, I have a particular swimbait I go to because I have infinite confidence in it. It always produces for me. If I’m throwing a bait and in the back of my head, I’m thinking about throwing a different bait, I obviously don’t have confidence in what I’m throwing so I quit using it. Certain conditions bring about different variables that may bring to mind a different bait I have confidence in for those conditions. Point being, confidence isn’t just something pulled out of thin air. It usually stems from past experiences, more specifically past successes, so it’s not something that manifests all by itself. It is merely part of the equation but an equally important part.
As far as the kid and marlin scenario, the kid wouldn’t have confidence in catching the marlin in Lake Moultrie. The kid would have confidence in you because you told him he was going to catch a marlin. Chances are, the next time you fished with the kid and you told the kid he was going to catch something, the kid would have less confidence, if any, in you until he actually did catch something. The more times you tell them they’re going to catch something and they don’t, their confidence in you will diminish until they start catching something again.
He called you a girl and this is your come back? Place is gettin soft. Next thing ya know, beards and Patagonia will be required to login. Fletch would be sad
The "Conrad Dobler" of CFC. I didn't know you were so fashion conscious...somebody traumatized you over your yuppie clothes?
He called you a girl and this is your come back? Place is gettin soft. Next thing ya know, beards and Patagonia will be required to login. Fletch would be sad
I’ve heard better insults. They have to be up to a certain minimum quality level before I will even consider responding to them. This one didn’t meet the bar.
mdaddy said I needed to work on my sensitivity.
So, basically I am killing 2 birds with 1 braid… I mean stone… Sorry…
Ahhh, the kinder and gentler Skinneej…I’ve enjoyed your posts for years. You got something to say and you’ll say it. Don’t run off the other posters though, I need the entertainment…
