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Clark et al. 2016
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/tops.12187/full
“Those who have the ability to make a difference have the responsibility to do so.” Thomas Jefferson
Citation for previous graphic, please?
If the ‘pause’ is real, the models are wrong.
Dr. Phil Jones – BBC – 13th February 2010
BBC – “Do you agree that from 1995 to the present there has been no statistically-significant global warming”
Jones - “Yes, but only just”.
That is a tacit admission that the pause was/is real and that the length of data is sufficient to produce a ‘statistically significant’ result. The models do not match the real world by their own definitions.
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Working from my phone here and posted wrong link…
Clark et al, 2016
https://www.nature.com/articles/nclimate2923.epdf?referrer_access_token=OCOWRyMtW2sg3OsJqAUhJ9RgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0P7bBCydl3XkC-iEMeXdnEdz_TP31nT3IiHuYGH69PXUkWM67XqU70rj6be1QkhH3MmGyWDATyQyEWk-bXqoIX3dgoUsxhSfd_7nhykR-jC3uIN9zgQJsMDbqq26q5MeL74WittHzylkHt8d2cxDIKtEQsmB2pz0lFmGGCKkPvXiRlfk33ZNw2JGjKwloxNPy5gBvfeUG5PpoY7FNnjZzD8tyCA6-Aye6ppCx7MHWotivwOq-TDDEbsBFqKIiJ1l-QnlZH5oxpMX-VdxjlXr7Di&tracking_referrer=dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com
“Those who have the ability to make a difference have the responsibility to do so.” Thomas Jefferson
The report was an opinion only. And like Fred noted - ALL the CC alarmists words were there - "likely , probably, possibly - The article was just so much baffling BS with few facts.
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You were looking at the predictions for the future, Fred. Look at the past data. I don’t think the temperature forecast models are exactly accurate, but models of the past are much, much more accurate. Whats important is that ALL predictions track us heating at a much higher rate than anyother time in history.
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There are also models that predict our Future climate to cool. 
So not All “predictions” track us heating at a higher rate. Either way it will be what it will be. If anything man is doing to help devastate our World, let’s look into the destruction of the rain forests. They are our Worlds atmosphere filters.
“Why Bruce?”
This is an example of how our climate models are missing significant parts of the picture. Part of global warming alarmism is the idea that when we release CO2, a very weak and relatively insignificant green house gas, it will cause a very very slight warming, which in turn will trigger other warming dynamics or ■■■■■■■■. One such dynamic is the release of methane hydrates. Methane is a very strong green house gas. Adding methane should cause more warming faster than adding CO2. As the hydrates melt and methane is release, the warming feeds on itself. Warming accelerates. More hydrates melt. Etc. It is these ‘■■■■■■■■’ loops that are supposed to do all the actual warming. Not, CO2. This is straight from the IPCC.
Now, from Science (http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/05/methane-slowing-global-warming-arctic), not a skeptical source, by any stretch…
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Methane is a potent greenhouse gas. Molecule for molecule, it traps nearly 30 times as much heat in the atmosphere as CO2. But scientists know relatively little about its role in the global carbon cycle.</font id=“red”>
It appears that when under sea methane hydrates are melting, the methane moves toward the surface and feeds/fertilizes plants near the surface. That makes the plants (algae and such) grow a lot faster and they, via photosynthesis, consume CO2. A lot of CO2. The plants consume both the methane and the CO2.
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In fact, the study finds that in such zones, nearly 1900 times more CO2 is being absorbed than methane emitted. That’s a small but real consolation for those concerned about global warming, Pohlman says: In these limited zones, the atmospheric benefit from CO2 s
Didn’t see it in any of the models, but Y’all don’t forget about volcanic activity. Never know when we could have another Mt. St. Helena that added more Green house gasses and other noxious stuff into our atmosphere than the entire industrial revolution. Also our Understudied Sun seems to go throught heating and cooling phases. And we all know man can’t hold a candle to the sun.
I have no doubt man needs to be a better steward of the earth, but to say we are the source of a 20X greater increase in Temperature is just too far off in left field.
“Why Bruce?”