Some people believe that your sexuality and sexual preferences are baked into your DNA, that is you were “born with” certain genes that give you absolute tendencies with regards to sexual attraction. You are either attracted to “A” or you or not attracted to “A” because you were born that way. No grey area. Genetics…
I have a question. When you were 13 years old, you were sexually attracted to other 13 year olds. Hopefully, nowadays, the thought of having sex with a 13 year old repulses and disgusts you. Why is that? Did your genetics change? Or did you make a “choice” one day that you were not going to be sexually attracted to 13 year olds anymore? If your DNA changed, how did that happen? Was it a bite from a genetically modified spider in Peter Parker’s father’s labratory? Or was your “choice” something you pondered over for days on end? At what age did you make the choice? And, can you explain your thought process? Surely these are the only two options. You were either born that way, or you made a conscious “choice”. That is what I am told about sexuality. The problem is, I don’t think my own DNA has changed and I don’t ever recall making a choice not to be sexually attracted to 13 year old girls any more. Though the thought of it disgusts me, repulses me, and seems pretty sickening. How is that possible given that neither of those options were executed?
Dang, pretty deep for a Friday morning. I’ll have to give that one some thought. How about this? You see from behind/or from a distance what you believe to me a woman easily over 20 or so that looks really attractive. She turns around only for you to find she is much younger (too young). Is it genetics or social mores that change what you were thinking about her? Culturally, such a dilemma is not really a dilemma in some societies (West Virginia, etc…). I go with social mores though some people in our society either ignore such mores or are incapable of following them.
Can’t wait to hear others weigh in.
For the record, when I was 13, I was hot for 15 year olds.
“Apathy is the Glove into Which Evil Slips It’s Hand”.
You see from behind/or from a distance what you believe to me a woman easily over 20 or so that looks really attractive. She turns around only for you to find she is much younger (too young).
You can't help it. You were born that way (i.e. genetics). The minute she turned around, your DNA changed. You have to quit doing that or your DNA is going to get all scrambled up and you could end up like Jeff Goldblum in movie "The Fly"...
“Some people believe that your sexuality and sexual preferences are baked into your DNA, that is you were “born with” certain genes that give you absolute tendencies with regards to sexual attraction. You are either attracted to “A” or you or not attracted to “A” because you were born that way. No grey area. Genetics…”
If this is indeed the case, what about child molesters, rapists and all the other sexually deviant types of behavior? If it’s nature and these “people” can’t control their proclivities, there are a ton of “people” who need to be released from prison immediately…
Jason, you need to be fishing. Or diving. Or somethin’…
“I’m not a hundred percent in love with your tone right now…”
I don’t think I was ever attracted to 13 year olds…it’s always been shapely women on their 20’s. In fact, I can remember the event that shaped my desires - I was watching a magician on TV and he had this really beautiful model and he put her in a box to cut her in half in one of those deals where they slide out the belly and tickled her belly button.
Boinnnnng**
It wasn’t cutting her in two, it was her belly and the way she giggled.
I remember thinking…oh, I like that. I guess I was around 9 or 10.
Needless to say, I ain’t down with the brown.
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I don’t think I was ever attracted to 13 year olds…it’s always been shapely women on their 20’s. In fact, I can remember the event that shaped my desires - I was watching a magician on TV and he had this really beautiful model and he put her in a box to cut her in half in one of those deals where they slide out the belly and tickled her belly button.
Boinnnnng**
It wasn’t cutting her in two, it was her belly and the way she giggled.
I remember thinking…oh, I like that. I guess I was around 9 or 10.
Needless to say, I ain’t down with the brown.
“I am constantly amazed at the stupidity of the general public.”
~my dad
Equipment:
190cc Sea Pro w/130 Johnson
1- 18 year old ( has decided being with parents isn’t cool)
1 - 15 year old (still does not mind hanging with the 'rents)
1 - wife (The Warden)
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claim, I think we all feel a bit closer to you now, since you were open enough to share the story of your first erection. Thanks for that. I'm sure that people will appreciate the visual.
“Some people believe that your sexuality and sexual preferences are baked into your DNA, that is you were “born with” certain genes that give you absolute tendencies with regards to sexual attraction. You are either attracted to “A” or you or not attracted to “A” because you were born that way. No grey area. Genetics…”
If this is indeed the case, what about child molesters, rapists and all the other sexually deviant types of behavior? If it’s nature and these “people” can’t control their proclivities, there are a ton of “people” who need to be released from prison immediately…
Jason, you need to be fishing. Or diving. Or somethin’…
“I’m not a hundred percent in love with your tone right now…”
Yes, those are all interesting cases of a much larger debate, but a psychologist could argue that these people were born that way. Maybe there is a rape gene in their family... Surely nobody woke up one day and said, "I want to be a sexual predator"...
However, I think what is unique about the question that I presented is that there is an actual CHANGE in behavior. Thus, to many people who only understand 2 options (genetics or “choice”), it presents a very interesting dilemma for their argument.
I don’t think I was ever attracted to 13 year olds…it’s always been shapely women on their 20’s. In fact, I can remember the event that shaped my desires - I was watching a magician on TV and he had this really beautiful model and he put her in a box to cut her in half in one of those deals where they slide out the belly and tickled her belly button.
Boinnnnng**
It wasn’t cutting her in two, it was her belly and the way she giggled.
I remember thinking…oh, I like that. I guess I was around 9 or 10.
Needless to say, I ain’t down with the brown.
“I am constantly amazed at the stupidity of the general public.”
~my dad
Equipment:
190cc Sea Pro w/130 Johnson
1- 18 year old ( has decided being with parents isn’t cool)
1 - 15 year old (still does not mind hanging with the 'rents)
1 - wife (The Warden)
ECFC
claim, I think we all feel a bit closer to you now, since you were open enough to share the story of your first erection. Thanks for that. I'm sure that people will appreciate the visual.
I’m kind of glad he doesn’t want to come to my house to eat fish now!
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]claim, I think we all feel a bit closer to you now, since you were open enough to share the story of your first erection. Thanks for that. I'm sure that people will appreciate the visual.
It was the first time I’ve ever told anyone. But as far as it being DNA verses a learned preference, I think yes on both counts.
Some people act either effeminate or masculine and there is nothing they can do to change their physical behavior. But I wonder about those that don’t have the gay gene, for a better lack of a word, why do they develop a preference based on things other than genetics.
I think about kids that refuse to touch different kinds of foods while growing up. But sometime in their life, they develop a taste for the things they hated or refused to touch while younger. I don’t think they conscientiously change their diet preferences - they just do. Something in the brain tells a kid that formally loathed green beans to change to liking green beans. Or broccoli. Or members of the same sex. There is so much about the brain we don’t understand.
So if someone likes cooked beets, it’s not my place to discriminate against them any more than if someone prefers a member of the same sex.
I will, however, steadfastly condemn and call for strict punishment for anyone that preys on a minor for their sexual preferences.
“I am constantly amazed at the stupidity of the general public.”
~my dad
Equipment:
190cc Sea Pro w/130 Johnson
1- 18 year old ( has decided being with parents isn’t cool)
1 - 15 year old (still does not mind hanging with the 'rents)
1 - wife (The Warden)
I’m kind of glad he doesn’t want to come to my house to eat fish now!
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“I am constantly amazed at the stupidity of the general public.”
~my dad
Equipment:
190cc Sea Pro w/130 Johnson
1- 18 year old ( has decided being with parents isn’t cool)
1 - 15 year old (still does not mind hanging with the 'rents)
1 - wife (The Warden)
I’m not sure why a 13 yr old would need to be attracted only to a 13 yr old. The theory talks more about being attracted being attracted to a particular kind (“Asian woman”, “Hispanic woman”, Caucasian man, etc.) than a particular age group.
I’m not sure why a 13 yr old would need to be attracted only to a 13 yr old. The theory talks more about being attracted being attracted to a particular kind (“Asian woman”, “Hispanic woman”, Caucasian man, etc.) than a particular age group.
Not sure I understand your inquiry. Nobody said that a 13 year old "would need to be attracted only to a 13 yr old".
Answer the following questions:
When you were 13, were you sexually attracted to 13 year old girls?
Are you still sexually attracted to 13 year old girls?
The age number is just an example. I picked 13 because it’s way too young than men should be attracted to now, but at that age, you probably hit puberty and had developed true sexual intentions. The underlying point is that at one time, you were sexually attracted to a specific age group that you are likely NOT attracted to now.
Sexual attraction is sexual attraction. People “can’t help it”. I’ve heard over and over that people must be “born that way” because they don’t recall “making a choice to think that way”. Is this a false dilemma? Since people are very quick to say that sexual attrction is genetic, how can the theory of “attracted to 13 year old gene” hold up when your sexual preferences towards 13 year olds has changed in your own life?
I’m not sure why a 13 yr old would need to be attracted only to a 13 yr old. The theory talks more about being attracted being attracted to a particular kind (“Asian woman”, “Hispanic woman”, Caucasian man, etc.) than a particular age group.
Not sure I understand your inquiry. Nobody said that a 13 year old "would need to be attracted only to a 13 yr old".
Answer the following questions:
When you were 13, were you sexually attracted to 13 year old girls?
Are you still sexually attracted to 13 year old girls?
The age number is just an example. I picked 13 because it’s way too young than men should be attracted to now, but at that age, you probably hit puberty and had developed true sexual intentions. The underlying point is that at one time, you were sexually attracted to a specific age group that you are likely NOT attracted to now.
Sexual attraction is sexual attraction. People “can’t help it”. I’ve heard over and over that people must be “born that way” because they don’t recall “making a choice to think that way”. Is this a false dilemma? Since people are very quick to say that sexual attrction is genetic, how can the theory of “attracted to 13 year old gene” hold up when your sexual preferences towards 13 year olds has changed in your own life?
When I was 13, I was attracted to girls and women (without knowing their age). If a girl had the right curves at the right places, then 13 to me was just a number, considering I was 13 at the time too!
I’m 38 now, but at times I see girls who look pretty
Again, I didn’t say people had to check IDs when you were 13, but if a 13 year old girl walked in TODAY, are you saying that you could potentially be sexually aroused by her until she showed you her ID card? I don’t know of any 13 year old girls that can pass for 21.
Again, I didn’t say people had to check IDs when you were 13, but if a 13 year old girl walked in TODAY, are you saying that you could potentially be sexually aroused by her until she showed you her ID card? I don’t know of any 13 year old girls that can pass for 21.
Not 13 yrs old..but I know many 16-17 yr olds that easily pass off as 21 yr olds.
Again, I didn’t say people had to check IDs when you were 13, but if a 13 year old girl walked in TODAY, are you saying that you could potentially be sexually aroused by her until she showed you her ID card? I don’t know of any 13 year old girls that can pass for 21.
Not 13 yrs old..but I know many 16-17 yr olds that easily pass off as 21 yr olds.
Fair enough. You are falling for them for the same reason a duck falls for a duck decoy. The illusion of something that is not what it really was. We are not talking about trickery. That's another topic in general. Now you should see why I picked the number 13. It's less ambigious. If I wanted to start a topic about 17 year old girls who you thought were 21, I would have picked the age 17. The number 13 was chosen to make the distinction that we aren't talking about "decoys".
That’s not what we are after here. You made a very clear statement that you are not currently sexually attracted to 13 year old girls. Great. That is certainly the norm with adult males. Were you EVER attracted to 13 year old girls? I would think that at some point in your life you were.
Clearly, over your life, your sexual preferences towards 13 year old girls changed. You were not perpetually destined to be attracted to 13 year old girls your entire life span. Did your DNA change, or did you sit down one day and decide “You know what. I no longer want to find 13 year old girls attractive anymore”? I propose that neither of those options really explain why you sexual preference towards this
My attraction as far as age group goes changed (changes) through the years. I probably liked 13yr old XXXX when I was 13/15, then I gradually grew up and found the 20s more attractive, and now I’m in my late 30s and I’m attracted to the more mature XXXXs.
What hasn’t changed though is the XXXX - that refers to the type - Caucasian women or Hispanic women or black women. What this means is, as I was always attracted to Caucasian women and I’ve never been, to this day attracted to a Chinese or Indian woman. Likewise, if I were gay, I can say I was attracted to black men (for example), and perhaps you’d hear me say “in my 20s I liked black men my age but now I’m attracted to black men in their 40s” versus saying “oh I used to be attracted to black men in my 20s but am now attracted to Brazilian men in my 30s”. I also don’t think it’s because we are exposed to people from that particular race or color.
The analogy I could give is - all my life I’ve been “attracted” to 4 door sedans. That never changed. What changed though is I probably was attracted to leather seats inside and am no longer now, or, I used to like a spoiler and don’t care for one now, etc.
