Police, FSU hampered Jameis Winston investigation

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/jameis-winston-florida-state-tallahassee-police-hindered-investigation-documents-101014

Florida State University officials and Tallahassee police took steps to both hide, and then hinder, the criminal investigation into a rape allegation against the school’s Heisman-trophy winning quarterback Jameis Winston last fall, a FOX Sports investigation has found.

Some more reading:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/12/us/florida-state-football-casts-shadow-over-tallahassee-justice.html?_r=0

Now, an examination by The New York Times of police and court records, along with interviews with crime witnesses, has found that, far from an aberration, the treatment of the Winston complaint was in keeping with the way the police on numerous occasions have soft-pedaled allegations of wrongdoing by Seminoles football players. From criminal mischief and motor-vehicle theft to domestic violence, arrests have been avoided, investigations have stalled and players have escaped serious consequences.

Was listening to Bubba The Love Sponge on 98 Rock this morning. Bubba said his friends daughter is friends and teammates with the accuser. Said she made it sound like a jaded lover type of thing and it was bull crap. Anyone can be accused of rape at any time. Hard to prove it didn’t happen. A woman can ruin a man by willfully having sex and then screaming rape a few days later. It is scary to think about.

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Originally posted by CooperRiverMan

Was listening to Bubba The Love Sponge on 98 Rock this morning. Bubba said his friends daughter is friends and teammates with the accuser. Said she made it sound like a jaded lover type of thing and it was bull crap. Anyone can be accused of rape at any time. Hard to prove it didn’t happen. A woman can ruin a man by willfully having sex and then screaming rape a few days later. It is scary to think about.

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I completely agree. I am not saying he did it because I don’t know, but whatever “IT” was. Was covered up, tampered with, or at the very least slow rolled

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBS0OWGUidc

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Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn’t go so far as to call a dog filthy but they’re definitely dirty. But, a dog’s got personality. Personality goes a long way.

“Life’s tough…It’s even tougher if you’re stupid” John Wayne

This happened before he took a snap for FSU.

another gem:

Mr. Winston posted a video clip in February in which he and a teammate, mimicking a viral music video, jokingly sang a line from the song ?On the Floor? by the rapper IceJJFish, which celebrates men not taking ?no? for an answer from women:

?She said she wants to take it slow, I?m not that type of guy I?ll letcha know, when I see that red light all I know is go.?

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Originally posted by CooperRiverMan

Was listening to Bubba The Love Sponge on 98 Rock this morning. Bubba said his friends daughter is friends and teammates with the accuser. Said she made it sound like a jaded lover type of thing and it was bull crap. Anyone can be accused of rape at any time. Hard to prove it didn’t happen. A woman can ruin a man by willfully having sex and then screaming rape a few days later. It is scary to think about.

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If the accuser is telling friends/teammates that, then why not come out in public with it? Put all of it to rest. Tell everyone she doesn’t remember what happened if she wants to not be thought of as a liar. Tell everyone it was a mistake and taken out of context.

Where is it?

You won’t get it.

100% agree with your feelings on how easy it is to ruin a young man’s life, and that is all fine. It is even easier to ruin a step dad’s life when he’s come into a household where his wife had a couple young daughters. Female prosecutors froth at the mouth over that stuff, and when you’re sitting on a jury you would rather screw up and put a man in prison for 10 or 25 years than risk the chance that he would be able to hurt anymore little girls.

That isn’t what this is about now, though.

An athletic department should not be giving over police reports and other critical info to an athlete’s defense attorney 4 days before a prosecutor even knows about the charges.

Someone’s guilty until proven innocent, but the cops could never get any charges to stick if the way they did business was give their reports to defense attorneys first- before prosecutors even know about a case. The cops’ job is to investigate a case. Before investigation was concluded, the cops shared everything with a person with the same int

The few FSU alum I know would like Winston gone. They love the football but hate the attention he has brought to the school. Now because of it, everyone is looking deeper, and finding many shady things.

I agree with everything Sigh that Phin said. but only in the above post…

No, they don’t want him gone, they want the scrutiny gone but not at the cost of winning. If they wanted him gone for the good of the University’s reputation, he’d be gone. The simple fact his he fills seats and makes them money, that is why they are doing everything to keep his no good ass playing. Jimbo Fisher still thinks he’s a great kid, just full of life and makes a minor mistake every once in a while.

Mark
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Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn’t go so far as to call a dog filthy but they’re definitely dirty. But, a dog’s got personality. Personality goes a long way.

“Life’s tough…It’s even tougher if you’re stupid” John Wayne

Salty these guys are saying that FSU friends want him gone. My Fsu buddy does as well. It’s obvious Jimbo and their administration does not. Or even if they finally do now they would probably look worse by going back against him.

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Originally posted by shevy

Salty these guys are saying that FSU friends want him gone. My Fsu buddy does as well. It’s obvious Jimbo and their administration does not. Or even if they finally do now they would probably look worse by going back against him.


Bull****, they spout that crap off but the minute he’s gone and FSU loses a few, they’ll be *****ing and crying with more excuses and complaints than Sakkerliner fans.

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Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn’t go so far as to call a dog filthy but they’re definitely dirty. But, a dog’s got personality. Personality goes a long way.

“Life’s tough…It’s even tougher if you’re stupid” John Wayne

See that’s shevy, your friends are lying…

I see that alot of FSU and ACC fans are blaming ESPN for this. Why? they are reporting what happened. ESPN did not cause this to happen.

Some people think everything is a conspiracy fish.

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Originally posted by Fishb8

I see that alot of FSU and ACC fans are blaming ESPN for this. Why? they are reporting what happened. ESPN did not cause this to happen.


What’s an ACC fan? I’ve never met any of those.

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Originally posted by tigerfin
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Originally posted by Fishb8

I see that alot of FSU and ACC fans are blaming ESPN for this. Why? they are reporting what happened. ESPN did not cause this to happen.


What’s an ACC fan? I’ve never met any of those.


do you need me to loan you mirror? :smiley:

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Originally posted by Fishb8

See that’s shevy, your friends are lying…


And so are yours if they are saying they want Winston gone and would accept the losses were he no longer there. They can say what they want to make it sound good but that’s BS and you know it. Be sort of like them saying all this is a set up by Florida to give them a chance in recruiting and the program, I heard that one not long ago. Give me a break, FSU’s playing dirty and doing everything they can to cover it up.

Remember if you ain’t cheatin’ you ain’t competein’.

Mark
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Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn’t go so far as to call a dog filthy but they’re definitely dirty. But, a dog’s got personality. Personality goes a long way.

“Life’s tough…It’s even tougher if you’re stupid” John Wayne

Ye of little faith, Salty
Some people do not believe in win at all cost. In cases like this one, the short term gains do not outweigh the long term goals. Meaning this could hurt recruiting for some time.

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Originally posted by Fishb8

Ye of little faith, Salty
Some people do not believe in win at all cost. In cases like this one, the short term gains do not outweigh the long term goals. Meaning this could hurt recruiting for some time.


I honestly think FSU would be a better, stronger team w/o Winston and his issues…

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