Today, The South Carolina House of Representatives passed Black Sea Bass legislation opening a Black Sea Bass season year-around in South Carolina waters. This is a good start in addressing the overpopulation and under-thinking of common-sense fisheries management by SAFMC and the Marine Advisory Board. In a disappointing move, DNR’s Marine Advisory Board voted yesterday to try to kill the bill. The will of the legislature is clear: South Carolina will not be bullied by the federal government or environmentalists with ill intentions for fishermen. The bill can be seen here: http://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess120_2013-2014/bills/3735.htm
Could you elaborate on the significance of DNR’s Marine Advisory Board attempting to kill the bill?
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Originally posted by ToucheCould you elaborate on the significance of DNR’s Marine Advisory Board attempting to kill the bill?
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It carries no force of law. It is basically an agreement among the members to work against the bill when it goes to the Senate. These people are out of line. They may find themselves disbanded after this move.
Stephen Goldfinch
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Very good. Thank you.
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yellabird, I know there have been others who have expressed their thanks to you on these issues…I also want to express my thanks for what you are doing…it is very much appreciated…
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Thank you. Working hard for our rights.
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I do not fish offshore much, only when I get a ride on someone else’s chariot, but I am thankful for what you are doing Rep. Goldfinch.
Now, what legally is needed (other than to pass the Senate, which I know will probably be a tough sell) before the ban is lifted and we are given reasonable creel limits?
Moral judgment under girds the entire structure of laws and is necessary for the rational structure of any significant statute. The idea that our laws can stand independent of moral foundation is senseless.----- Albert Mohler.
Although not an SC resident, I want to thank you for standing up for fishermen! Wish some of our NC legislators would grow a set and do the same thing
Thank you!
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yellabird,
Does the bill just open up the season year round, or does it call for state management of the resource? Before the ban, unless you went way offshore you could hardly catch a sea bass that was a keeper. Now, they are way too overabundant - an obvious mismanagement. But who will manage the resource if this bill passes? Clearly the state can do a better job than Washington, but still someone has to manage it. I would assume that would be DNR, right?
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Originally posted by Optikeryellabird,
Does the bill just open up the season year round, or does it call for state management of the resource? Before the ban, unless you went way offshore you could hardly catch a sea bass that was a keeper. Now, they are way too overabundant - an obvious mismanagement. But who will manage the resource if this bill passes? Clearly the state can do a better job than Washington, but still someone has to manage it. I would assume that would be DNR, right?
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The effective result will be that the state manages the BSB species within its state waters. Creel limits are loosely tied to federal creel limits. But they cannot slip below the 5 fish limit, and they are open year-around.
Stephen Goldfinch
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Originally posted by Optikeryellabird,
Does the bill just open up the season year round, or does it call for state management of the resource? Before the ban, unless you went way offshore you could hardly catch a sea bass that was a keeper. Now, they are way too overabundant - an obvious mismanagement. But who will manage the resource if this bill passes? Clearly the state can do a better job than Washington, but still someone has to manage it. I would assume that would be DNR, right?
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My thoughts also. It does sound odd that DNR’s Marine Advisory Board is against it. I’m not tuned to what they actually do, but their name makes me think they would be the ones to “advise” on the subject.
What burdens are placed on the state agencies by this bill? Any cons for them. Definitely a win for us in the short run, but why would they disagree?
BG
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Originally posted by btodagquote:
Originally posted by Optikeryellabird,
Does the bill just open up the season year round, or does it call for state management of the resource? Before the ban, unless you went way offshore you could hardly catch a sea bass that was a keeper. Now, they are way too overabundant - an obvious mismanagement. But who will manage the resource if this bill passes? Clearly the state can do a better job than Washington, but still someone has to manage it. I would assume that would be DNR, right?
Thanks
My thoughts also. It does sound odd that DNR’s Marine Advisory Board is against it. I’m not tuned to what they actually do, but their name makes me think they would be the ones to “advise” on the subject.
What burdens are placed on the state agencies by this bill? Any cons for them. Definitely a win for us in the short run, but why would they disagree?
BG
Different political concerns. Nothing to do with real science or any budget concerns. DNR already patrols state waters. This doesn’t expand any mandates, ie., cost any money.
Stephen Goldfinch
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Mr. Goldfinch- Awesome job sir and thank you for your continuing effort on our behalf!!
The DNR likely does not want a situation where they check a guy in the jetties and it becomes a question of where the fish were caught.
Just to be clear, DNR fully supports the bill. The marine advisory board is independent from the Managment at DNR. UPDATE: the marine advisory board has had a sudden change of heat and now supports the bill. Happy to have them on board.
Stephen Goldfinch
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Mr. Goldfinch, The same as with Redfish Matt I only get off shore when I can hitch a ride, however I truly appreciate your efforts in working towards our interest.
Bob
Thank you sir… keeping up with these folks must be like having three jobs !
Good job! Now for my own clarification…State waters is 3 miles out, then it becomes Federal waters and different seasons and rules apply? So if I go to say 100Ft (or one of the popular artificial reefs around here) before June first… I still can’t keep any?
John
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Originally posted by lrobaloGood job! Now for my own clarification…State waters is 3 miles out, then it becomes Federal waters and different seasons and rules apply? So if I go to say 100Ft (or one of the popular artificial reefs around here) before June first… I still can’t keep any?
John
The bill, as written would specifically allow you to fish, year-around for BSB in state waters (within 3 miles). If you were to fish outside of state waters when the federal season was closed, you would technically be in violation of the law. There’s not much I can do about that. I can, however, promise you that a BSB in your boat is a legal fish, as long as you are checked in state waters.
Stephen Goldfinch
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