Not exactly 27 inch would be an increase in size and is a federally reccomended max size limit. I am already killing more than six at all sizes just to keep three within the slot.DNR claims 90 % of fishermen practice some sort of catch release.I think the number is more like 100%…What that 90% claim does not include is that size/creel limits force catch and release.It makes it “appear” that 90% of fishermen prefer catch/release(which is good propoganda to help keep their control and limits). I think us weekend fishermen would like to just keep a few more and not release so many…believe me it is not voluntary for most of us…It is the LAW!
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let me get this straight, so the best way to increase the reds population is to relax the limit on how many we can keep and let us keep smaller fish as well, so to increase the population keep more and smaller fish and that will help , in my thinking if i can fish for three hours or all day i will do that and if i decide to keep my limit of fish i will do that, but my intentions are to fish for a length of time not for my limit of fish, in other words i will release fish if the bite is on and i catch the limit and i do not want to go home, and i think most recreational anglers are that way, so if the limit is six i will keep six and release the rest no matter how many i can catch in that specific time frame, the law says all i can keep is 3 then that is all i would keep in that same time frame so the three i would have to put back would have a possibility of living where if i kept 6 they would all die, so the law you are talking about changing would only work if you caught 6 and went home . and i don’t think most recreational anglers are going to do that
Again, pure gold toppy. How about go to the link Inshore Angler provided. Over 90% of fish landed on in-line circle hooks are lip-hooked. Less than 1% of lip-hooked fish die upon release. The vast majority of non-lip-hooked fish live when handled properly. Your complaint is that you kill fish in order to get your limit, yet this is YOUR CHOICE due to YOUR FISHING METHOD of using j-hooks. Again, this is everyone’s choice, but you complaining about yourself is icing on the dip$#!@ cake.
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Apparently myself and the majority of s.c. fishermen use j hooks(according to DNR) . Remember i asked you to debate point by point??? not doing so good are you? Me and the majority of fishermen use j hooks. Stainless steel(which is a combination of alloys that doesn’t readily corrode) Is that the best you can do??
Dictating the type hook I should use?? I want to catch and eat my fish!!!I use the one that catches the most fish!!!I dont tell you the best hook for you to catch release…I must be using the correct hook for my needs. The smaller hook allows me to catch grunts/spots/flounder and reds, etc…to eat. You catch/release…i will catch/eat.
Seriously,there should be a law not to mollest fish unless they are eaten(food).I was just trying to suggest a way that seemed reasonable to get both(make you and me happy).Now I am beginning to think HSUS should get involved and stop you from molesting,tramautizing and yes even killing some just for personal pleasure…Think it cant happen???Some places in the world(germany specifically) it is illegal to catch and release a carp.After hooking and landing you must immediately club the fish in the head to prevent suffering).I was there 1969 to 1971(army). Those crazy humaniacs think you are barbaric for what you do…So from now on it should be catch and eat or leave them alone.Go golfing.
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There always has been and always will be exceptions to every rule.Has been and always will be cherry pickers .You could easily have found photos of large fish kills with floating fish to to dispute me.However you chose a very interesting post to belittle me and make you look like some kind of heroe…
That turtle/red thing was , however , amazing!!! thanks for sharing it.And good luck with your ego.
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Come on…there are so many crabs out there one would never sink long enough to decompose and fill with decomposition gasses to float.Talk about a one sided interpretation of facts?
I guess these are more Toppy facts. Dead fish don’t float. That’s a new one to me…
This thread certainly doesn’t disprove your statement:
http://old.charlestonfishing.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=101775&SearchTerms=redfish,terrapin
And the fish in that thread is probably only floating because there are no crabs around… in July.
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How is that an exception to the rule or belittlement? You clearly stated that dead fish won’t float because the crabs will get them. I simply posted a picture that I personally took to disprove your opinion with clear FACT. And tha
I can’t believe that big red tried to eat that 10in turtle!! Amazing! I thought I was gluttonous when it comes to food!
Correct sir…However you are a cherry ppicker…The 1 % survival was for 3 days in an aquarium type impoundment ,properly handled and released by professionals and observed for 3 days with no,sharks.dolpins,other ptedators,etc that makes life dangerous for them…GOT That??Excessive time out of water for trophy photos and mishandling could not possibly affect that number!.I commend you for your less than 1% claim to fame.I am not in denial oh how I catch fish TO EAT and enjoy the fishing…Absurd limits that force me to kill fish spoils some of the pleasure but not enough to stop enjoying 'OUR" coast.
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Again, pure gold toppy. How about go to the link Inshore Angler provided. Over 90% of fish landed on in-line circle hooks are lip-hooked. Less than 1% of lip-hooked fish die upon release. The vast majority of non-lip-hooked fish live when handled properly. Your complaint is that you kill fish in order to get your limit, yet this is YOUR CHOICE due to YOUR FISHING METHOD of using j-hooks. Again, this is everyone’s choice, but you complaining about yourself is icing on the dip$#!@ cake.
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Originally posted by toppyblue
Apparently myself and the majority of s.c. fishermen use j hooks(according to DNR) . Remember i asked you to debate point by point??? not doing so good are you? Me and the majority of fishermen use j hooks. Stainless steel(which is a combination of alloys that doesn’t readily corrode) Is that the best you can do??
Dictating the type hook I should use?? I want to catch and eat my fish!!!I use the one that catches the most fish!!!I dont tell you the best hook for you to catch release…I must be using the correct hook for my needs. The smaller hook allows me to catch grunts/spots
You simply are unbelievable…wont concede to anything,then make another “General statement” claiming 99% incorrec information posted by me…maybe you are not a cherrypicker But answer this please…What percentage of the released fish that die(just the ones that did die) are not eaten by crabs,other scavengers within several hours?.
Toppypicker or cherrypicker...either seems to buoy(float) your ego.
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Originally posted by toppyblue
There always has been and always will be exceptions to every rule.Has been and always will be cherry pickers .You could easily have found photos of large fish kills with floating fish to to dispute me.However you chose a very interesting post to belittle me and make you look like some kind of heroe…
That turtle/red thing was , however , amazing!!! thanks for sharing it.And good luck with your ego.
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Originally posted by 23Sailfish
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Originally posted by toppyblue
Come on…there are so many crabs out there one would never sink long enough to decompose and fill with decomposition gasses to float.Talk about a one sided interpretation of facts?
I guess these are more Toppy facts. Dead fish don’t float. That’s a new one to me…
This thread certainly doesn’t disprove your statement:
http://old.charlestonfishing.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=101775&SearchTerms=redfish,terrapin
And the fish in that thread is prob
Question to all: When you plan a trip to fish do you fish for a specific time period or until you catch a specific number of fish? Myself : specific time period
Specific time period- usually fish the tide stages- like 3 hours before high up until high. I dont know anyone who fishes to catch a set number of fish.
Specific time period, sunrise to sundown.
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And that is my point, it really would not matter what the limit is to legal anglers obeying the law, they are going to fish for a specific time period no matter what the limit is, so yes everyone who enjoys fishing catch and release… end of argument, was that the argument? all this back and forth i am confused
OK stick a stainless steel fork in me i am done, have enjoyed it but time to get out of this chair and do something, see you guys on the water, enjoy life because life is like a roll of toilet paper, it goes faster when you get toward the end, (Chuckle for the day)
So True!!! keep on catching as many as you can.and enjoy.
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Specific time period- usually fish the tide stages- like 3 hours before high up until high. I dont know anyone who fishes to catch a set number of fish.
paintblend I agree with the time to move on…Appreciate your objective comments here…Even though we disagree on some poimts…You are both knowledgeable and respectful…
I especially liked how you handled the treemydog attack,you sir are a fine example of what we need on forums like this.
Adios toppypickers.
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OK stick a stainless steel fork in me i am done, have enjoyed it but time to get out of this chair and do something, see you guys on the water, enjoy life because life is like a roll of toilet paper, it goes faster when you get toward the end, (Chuckle for the day)
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paintblend I agree with the time to move on…Appreciate your objective comments here…Even though we disagree on some poimts…You are both knowledgeable and respectful…
I especially liked how you handled the treemydog attack,you sir are a fine example of what we need on forums like this.
Adios toppypickers.
See you in another few months to discuss the increasing amount of porpoise attacks on humans in the lowcountry…good day.
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Good luck on your new commercial fishing venture 23. I have a few restaurants down here that are always interested in new suppliers. Carry on sir and keep in touch.
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Originally posted by 23Sailfish
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Originally posted by toppyblue
paintblend I agree with the time to move on…Appreciate your objective comments here…Even though we disagree on some poimts…You are both knowledgeable and respectful…
I especially liked how you handled the treemydog attack,you sir are a fine example of what we need on forums like this.
Adios toppypickers.
See you in another few months to discuss the increasing amount of porpoise attacks on humans in the lowcountry…good day.
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How many hours of your collective lives do you ding dongs waste in an web forum? A bunch of yall would make a great Dateline NBC episode about living double lives online and how you talk to each other in Alias-speak and abbreviations. About fishing. Which used to be a means of gathering food and became a sport. What an incredible nerdfest.
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How many hours of your collective lives do you ding dongs waste in an web forum? A bunch of yall would make a great Dateline NBC episode about living double lives online and how you talk to each other in Alias-speak and abbreviations. About fishing. Which used to be a means of gathering food and became a sport. What an incredible nerdfest.
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