Seahunt- Illegal Redfish Catch Thread?

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Originally posted by 23Sailfish
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Originally posted by toppyblue

Treemydog is pulling your chain because some(a few only) attacked him…I stand by my principles and beliefs.Those of you squealing the loudest and insulting because I am stepping on your toes does not change reality.


No one attacked him. You’re making things up again. He’s the one that was talking about shooting up someone’s boat. If I were looking for allies, I’d look elsewhere… Lol

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You sir are a moron. Carry on.

Thanks to tree my dog for starting this post and especially for whoever it was threatening to call the man on him…They with a little help from me have created the thread with the most responses currently listed here in saltwater discussion. As always i have learned more by participating with this thread…Thanks guys for forcing the debate…Hope at least some of you guys learned as much as me. One last dig,oops , question… Wonder why most scientific data claim reds can liveand reproduce up to sixty years yet DNR claims much less?? DNR claims 10 to 20 and possibly up to 30 years…

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Originally posted by tree_my_dog
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Originally posted by 23Sailfish
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Originally posted by toppyblue

Treemydog is pulling your chain because some(a few only) attacked him…I stand by my principles and beliefs.Those of you squealing the loudest and insulting because I am stepping on your toes does not change reality.


No one attacked him. You’re making things up again. He’s the one that was talking about shooting up someone’s boat. If I were looking for allies, I’d look elsewhere… Lol

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You sir are a moron. Carry on.


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You sir are a moron. Carry on.

Says the guy who would shoot your boat full of holes for reporting him for fishing violations. Pot meet kettle.

“Apathy is the Glove in Which Evil Slips It’s Hand”.

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Originally posted by DFreedom
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You sir are a moron. Carry on.

Says the guy who would shot your boat full of holes for reporting him for fishing violations. Pot meet kettle.

“Apathy is the Glove in Which Evil Slips It’s Hand”.


no the yellow belley yankee prick doing the reporting is the moron. And im guessing you’ll fit all three.

I’m calling the history channel and see if they wont come do a series about this, they can call it: “THE OYSTER BARONS AND REDFISH BARONS” VS
“YELLER BELLEY YANKEE pricks” it will be hilarious. Everyone of you think you are stars anyway, so why not. Bahaaa ha ha ha ha killing me.

BOB

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no the yellow belley yankee prick doing the reporting is the moron. And im guessing you'll fit all three.
  1. No yellow belly here, it takes no guts to be an internet tough guy like you are trying so hard to be (I am guessing you are living
    at home with mommy and daddy based on the maturity level of your posts).
  2. Nope, not a yankee, southern boy born and bred.
  3. Been called a prick (mostly by immature little boys like you) a few times in my life and may very well be.

So, in review, being called names by an immature, juvenile person such as yourself really is kind of like being called stupid by the class dullard (that’s someone that isn’t too bright). You are obviously an angry little man that finds it easy to talk trash from behind a keyboard. I am betting you have a self-esteem problem so acting out on the internet makes you feel like a big boy. Good for you, I hope it is working. Personally, I think you are just one of those big mouth yahoos that likes to be the “turd in the punchbowl” as it gets you the attention you crave so much. As for me, I really don’t care what your issues are. People like you are ruining this website and the best way I can find to deal with your kind is to simply ignore you. So, fire away, you will not hear from me again because as far as you are concerned, you have joined my ignore list as nothing you post is worth reading.

“Apathy is the Glove in Which Evil Slips It’s Hand”.

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Originally posted by bonecrusher
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Originally posted by tree_my_dog

I think im leaving this site. To many high and mighty tree huggers for me. If I catch 50 or 5 of those high and mighty oversized croakers its my business and my business alone. Everyone sees redfish as the little puppy in in the pound getting the gas treatment. Let me be the first to tell u there are more of them than bream in the lake. Maybe im old school or maybe im just not as liberal as yall but where I come from the last thing we do is turn a fellow fisherman into the gw.


Before you leave, please post a picture of your boat so we can point you out to the DNR.

This is the post that started it, then tree my dog said for bonecrusher to post a picture of his boat so he can shoot it up with buckshot. Tree my dog has no ground to stand here.

Is bonecrusher a yankee? Looks like dfreedom is not the “guilty” one that openly made threats first???

My farewell post. One there sir you are a prick along with your friends. So let me go ahead and confirm that for you. Two your an embarrassment to dixie. Any man that turns another into mr green britches is in fact a yellow belly. So mind your own business on the water. I know u think your an elites that owns the water but the only thing you own is that slab of fiberglass under your feet so remember that. And thirdly I’ve worked for everything ive ever own to make my living. And its pricks like you who support regulations to take OUR share of OUR natural resources away from the people. I came to the site to learn something new and I have. that tthere’s wolfs in sheep’s clothing.

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Originally posted by tree_my_dog

My farewell post. One there sir you are a prick along with your friends. So let me go ahead and confirm that for you. Two your an embarrassment to dixie. Any man that turns another into mr green britches is in fact a yellow belly. So mind your own business on the water. I know u think your an elites that owns the water but the only thing you own is that slab of fiberglass under your feet so remember that. And thirdly I’ve worked for everything ive ever own to make my living. And its pricks like you who support regulations to take OUR share of OUR natural resources away from the people. I came to the site to learn something new and I have. that tthere’s wolfs in sheep’s clothing.


Lol!

Thank you for your farewell post. Not looking forward to any of your future opinions or d-bag statements!

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Originally posted by tree_my_dog

My farewell post. One there sir you are a prick along with your friends. So let me go ahead and confirm that for you. Two your an embarrassment to dixie. Any man that turns another into mr green britches is in fact a yellow belly. So mind your own business on the water. I know u think your an elites that owns the water but the only thing you own is that slab of fiberglass under your feet so remember that. And thirdly I’ve worked for everything ive ever own to make my living. And its pricks like you who support regulations to take OUR share of OUR natural resources away from the people. I came to the site to learn something new and I have. that tthere’s wolfs in sheep’s clothing.


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Originally posted by tree_my_dog

My farewell post. One there sir you are a prick along with your friends. So let me go ahead and confirm that for you. Two your an embarrassment to dixie. Any man that turns another into mr green britches is in fact a yellow belly. So mind your own business on the water. I know u think your an elites that owns the water but the only thing you own is that slab of fiberglass under your feet so remember that. And thirdly I’ve worked for everything ive ever own to make my living. And its pricks like you who support regulations to take OUR share of OUR natural resources away from the people. I came to the site to learn something new and I have. that tthere’s wolfs in sheep’s clothing.


This is a response by someone who is not well educated on the red drum fishery.

Good luck with your future endeavors, just in case we never see you again.

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Not that treemydog needs any defense,he seems pretty capable of calling it like he sees it.

Some of you guys seem to enjoy downing others in an attempt to raise or elevate your self perceived status of all knowing elitists.People like tree-my-dog are the very ones willing to put their lives on the line in defense of freedom.
I have a couple question for you guys:
1. Why does DNR claim unexplained bad seasons for juvenile reds? Could it simply be bad years for either shrimp or fiddlers result in less food for juveniles.
2.Why is there no data posted by DNR on redfish populations since 2010?
3.I wonder why they do not post charts of reds,fiddlers.and shrimp on the same graphs?/
4. why do they stock reds costing hundreds of thousands of dollars and admit it only increases the population by 7%?Seems to me that what they release would be competing for available prey???/
5.why do they (DNR) claim breeder reds could live up to 30 years when other scientists say 60 years??

6. Why is their no data on predator(like dolphins) populations vs red populations??

 Maybe just maybe self preservation could answer some of those questions.Admitting all they can really do is enforce catch limits and promote catch/ release would devastate their budgets and put them in the unemployment lines. Al they really need to do is survey you guys for population data..Then if they really want to help they could.
   1. Stop  catch/release targeting of bull reds.(by discouraging it and admitting how importand breeders are in comparison to other factors)
   2.stock billions and billions of fiddlers where they want to establish redfish populations--The fish will come on their own.

  BIG GOVERNMENT BEGETS MORE BIG GOVERNMENT.

When the sky falls people with common sense like treemydog will survive.

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Notice: If I see anyone violating the regs, I will bust your ass - know that.

Shoot at me or my boat - enjoy your time behind bars


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Originally posted by toppyblue

Not that treemydog needs any defense,he seems pretty capable of calling it like he sees it.

Some of you guys seem to enjoy downing others in an attempt to raise or elevate your self perceived status of all knowing elitists.People like tree-my-dog are the very ones willing to put their lives on the line in defense of freedom.

   1. Stop  catch/release targeting of bull reds.(by discouraging it and admitting how importand breeders are in comparison to other factors)
   2.stock billions and billions of fiddlers where they want to establish redfish populations--The fish will come on their own.

  BIG GOVERNMENT BEGETS MORE BIG GOVERNMENT.

When the sky falls people with common sense like treemydog will survive.


I didn’t realize that treemydog was in the service. If that’s true, thank you for your service to our country. Even if its true, his attitude is still wrong and bad for the fishery.

Toppy,
While I ceratinly appreciate your questions, you should probably address 1-6 to DNR. Unfortnately, I don’t get to weigh in on what they study and why. I just know that its a thankless job and the men and women there that I’ve met are very passionate about this fishery here in the lowcounty. To bash or blame them for anything is wrong. They don’t get paid what they are worth in my opinion.

As far as your questions at the bottom:

  1. They will never outlaw targeting big reds, not as long as the population is healthy. As it stands now, the conservation effort over the last twenty years or so has helped the redfish population grow to a very healthy level. And that’s a fact regardless of whether you believe it or not.

  2. To suggest DNR foots the bill to stock fiddlers…well, that is pretty silly. They are the cockroaches of the mars

FOR OPTIKER

Someone knowingly violating limits and raping fish?? I agree totally,but be anonymous!!! Unintentional violations???Politely inform them of the limits just to keep them out of trouble,Seriously help them!
This guy(texas) had to pay a 2500 dollar fine but could still fish…He was just ignorant of the law as his brother posted the photos on facebook.can you imagine how many millions of puppy drums this destroyed??

These big reds are not very tasty(to me).Just imagine how horrible I am for wanting to keep the first six between 12 and 27 inches to eat?? This guy must have found a school of breeders and raped some.If he had a bigger cooler maybe he would have got more?? I guess he was within three miles of shore or the feds could have put him in prison.

STOPPING THIS TYPE STUFF is the real deal for redfish population.Thanks again President BUSH!

Ignorance of a law is not a valid excuse for violating said law. As a hunter/fisherman, it is YOUR responsibility to know the laws that pertain to what you are doing. Like Optiker, if I see an obvious violation, I am calling DNR. Call me a yellow-belly if you wish but, I do not condone breaking the law.

“Apathy is the Glove in Which Evil Slips It’s Hand”.

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Originally posted by DFreedom

Ignorance of a law is not a valid excuse for violating said law. As a hunter/fisherman, it is YOUR responsibility to know the laws that pertain to what you are doing. Like Optiker, if I see an obvious violation, I am calling DNR. Call me a yellow-belly if you wish but, I do not condone breaking the law.

“Apathy is the Glove in Which Evil Slips It’s Hand”.


Its no different than calling the police and reporting a crime you see. As a citizen, its your obligation to your community. As an angler, its your obligation to the fishery.

Redfish Baron Extraordinaire

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Originally posted by DFreedom

Ignorance of a law is not a valid excuse for violating said law. As a hunter/fisherman, it is YOUR responsibility to know the laws that pertain to what you are doing. Like Optiker, if I see an obvious violation, I am calling DNR. Call me a yellow-belly if you wish but, I do not condone breaking the law.

“Apathy is the Glove in Which Evil Slips It’s Hand”.


X2 - Well said. Hard to believe we had to get to 12 pages just to sum it up.