There are times when I catch a under/over Redfish or other type of fish where I think to myself, what if I just keep one or two of these, its not a big deal. But my better sense always prevails. If everyone broke the rules, a few years down the road, I may no longer be catching these fish, or not as many as them. I get that, and everyone else should too.
Man I did not expect this to blow up like this, was just trying to give the guy a heads up. He made a mistake and apologized for it too. The way I see it there are inshore anglers who fish to eat, which I am okay with as long as you stay within the limit. Then there are those who fish for pleasure and maybe keep some fish occasionally. To say one camp of fishing is better than another is a slippery slop, every fisherman seeks a different experience from fishing and one is not better than the other.
I personally do not keep redfish or trout but will keep flounder and sheep, so I have no ground to stand on to tell someone they cannot keep a redfish. In my younger years I fished out some productive spots for no good reason (stayed within the limits though) and have learned from my actions. Sometimes it takes something like that happen to make you realize how limited the resource actually is, well at least for me. Just stay within the limits and have fun with it. Ultimately that is what fishing is all about!!! The SCDNR does a great job monitoring our inshore fisheries everyone should check it out sometime.
Elgeebee popcorn? That’s a great idea…I’m gonna make some. Had to recharge my phone also…
I would really like to hear from some of the guys on this list who routinely tag fish (fatrat?) and from people who keep track of the tagged and released fish.
question: do most fish float to the top when they die and then as they deteriorate they sink, the reason i ask is i can not remember ever seeing a dead floating redfish, and if that were true it would appear there would be a few of them floating around, since there is so many caught and released, i would think that most would still survive unless they were gut hooked , but lip hooked would survive,am i right on that thought, do not read anything into this i am merely asking
Found the answer :
fish are slightly more dense than the water in which they swim. They are almost neutrally buoyant, meaning the forces acting against the fish to make it sink are about equal to the forces inside the fish causing it to float. It also means fish don’t have to work too hard to keep from floating or sinking.
Pressure increases with water depth. Most species of fish counteract fluctuations by using an internal pouch called a swim bladder (also called the gas bladder or air bladder). Water enters a fish’s mouth and passes through gills, where oxygen is extracted and carried by hemoglobin through the bloodstream. Hemoglobin releases some of that oxygen into the swim bladder.
The amount of oxygen in the bladder determines the fish’s buoyancy. If the fish begins to dip, oxygen is absorbed into the bladder. If he floats too much, gas diffuses into the blood and out the gills. Mark Boriek, a biologist with the New Jersey Department of Fish and Wildlife explains that the process “isn’t a conscious effort on the part of the fish, but rather a chemical response to the pressure surrounding the fish.”
Oxygen remains in the bladder after a fish dies. Additional gases are released during decomposition. “The fish is like a closed container,” says Boriek. “As the fish decomposes, gases fill the body cavity.” The belly becomes a guts-filled balloon and the fish floats to the surface. Most of a fish’s mass is bone and muscle on its dorsal side, so as the belly balloon rises, fish tend to flip upside down. and that is why we see dead fish on the surface
with that being said i believe most released fish do survive, or we would have a lot more floaters
Some People Create Their Own Storms And Then Cry When It Rains!
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Originally posted by CaptFritzOptiker the members of PN don’t appreciate your accusations.
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It is what it is!
You are right. I had no basis for that. Deleted it
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Tagging reports can be viewed on the DNR website. I routinely tag reds and rarely keep as I do not care to eat them; about 150 over the last year. There is very little trauma if it is tagged correctly. The t-bar tags which are used for small to medium size fish uses a small needle to insert. The tag end is the same as what holds price tags on clothing. I have caught several of my own tagged fish which I always inspect the tag site. All have looked good with no signs of infection even one that I had caught only days before. I also had maybe 2 of all those that swallowed the hook which is left in place with the leader cut. Fishing technique and hook selection makes all the difference on hooking in the lip. However, a swallowed hook is not a death sentence to a fish. I have caught plenty that were in the process of passing the hook and leader. Besides, do you really think that eating shrimp all day long does not pose more of a risk of internal damage than a hook?
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it makes me feel better to think that most released fish probably do survive,
Some People Create Their Own Storms And Then Cry When It Rains!
Ha ha eating some reds blacks and flounder now. (**() they taste better than those picture. Ill be thinking about yall when im blowing my check and loading the cooler. Goodnight pricks and happy fish catching dreams after all thats the only way you can catch them.
Good night dog, enjoy that fish , fill yer cooler with beer and do not spend it all in one place
Some People Create Their Own Storms And Then Cry When It Rains!
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Originally posted by toppyblueOptiker I visited your commercial site and saw all your photos…very nice and professional…Looks like you enjoy catching,photographing and releasing big reds…That is ghreat.I must apologize for stepping on your toes to the pouint you fell it necessary to call me names…Like I said before,if the reds could think and talk wonder if they would agree more with me or you?
Hey oyster baron bully, you are a silly silly man. Optiker knows more and has done more for the conservation of the redfish than you can begin to imagine. Just because he doesn’t come on this forum and get all emotionally distraught like you doesn’t mean he knows less.
Toppy, you sir are indeed ignorant.
Get your facts straight and come back and let’s start this discussion over.
Some people…
I can be a rather ignorant and silly individual myself, and my fishing skills are such that very few fish are in danger of ending up on my stringer.
But I can say this, I am thankful for the excellent job our DNR has done for the redfish population. Our SC state government does so very, very few things well it seems (although it’s better than many other states I’ve been to). Our DNR is far from perfect but they’ve done a good job managing the reds.
Until then, I won’t worry about folks catching 20-50 fish a day as long as they are following the creel/slot limits.
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Originally posted by Too BusyI <3 stoopid ppl
Boat drinks, Waitress I need 2 more boat drinks!
To those of us who don’t typically understand internet/text symbols quickly enough, your sentence reads as “I’m less than 3 stoopid ppl” lol. 
Saying “I am offended” is telling everyone else that you cannot control your own emotions, and thus you need everyone else to do it for you.
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Goodnight pricks and happy fish catching dreams after all thats the only way you can catch them.
You just proved how truly classy you really are.
“Apathy is the Glove in Which Evil Slips It’s Hand”.
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Goodnight pricks and happy fish catching dreams after all thats the only way you can catch them.
You just proved how truly classy you really are.
“Apathy is the Glove in Which Evil Slips It’s Hand”.
This guy openly talks about not following DNR and SC laws and has attacked other members on here. This board does not need him. The admins will see to it that his account is suspended.
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Originally posted by Redfish_mattI can be a rather ignorant and silly individual myself, and my fishing skills are such that very few fish are in danger of ending up on my stringer.
But I can say this, I am thankful for the excellent job our DNR has done for the redfish population. Our SC state government does so very, very few things well it seems (although it’s better than many other states I’ve been to).
</font id=“quote”></blockquote id=“quote”>I moved to SC from Chicago…want to talk about an inept government! If you’ve ever heard of Chicago “Machine” politics, that’s no BS. It’s alive and well.
I’ll gladly pay my SC taxes, licensing fees etc to help the marine environment.
quote:Never surprises me how stupid people still are. Us "tree huggers" just love the place we were born and raised, and would like to continue to catch fish with abundance. If we all just threw every fish we catch into "peanut oil" then the fishery would be significantly reduced in no time. I know your awesome country boy way of life tells you otherwise, but there are rules for a reason. You seriously need to re-evaluate your way of thinking. Its the 21st century and people have changed to better the world. Get over yourself man.
Originally posted by tree_my_dogHa ha eating some reds blacks and flounder now. (**() they taste better than those picture. Ill be thinking about yall when im blowing my check and loading the cooler. Goodnight pricks and happy fish catching dreams after all thats the only way you can catch them.
All fishermen are liers except me and you and I’m not sure about you.
I often wonder if people like that are doing it for attention or whether thats how they really think. I know there are some people like that who probably fish without even a license and with no regard for the law, but why come to a public forum and brag about it and throw it in peoples faces.
Come on…there are so many crabs out there one would never sink long enough to decompose and fill with decomposition gasses to float.Talk about a one sided interpretation of facts? But I agree that lip hooked reds properly and promptly released will survive surely 90% of those would be a reasonable prediction…My whole and only point is the limits should apply to everyone…catch and release three per person and go to another species…or catch and keep three…Surely this would result in more surving!
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Originally posted by CaptFritzOptiker the members of PN don’t appreciate your accusations.
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It is what it is!
You are right. I had no basis for that. Deleted it
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I am curious, ToppyBlue. How long have you been around inshore fishing?