Two of the Flake boys met me at 3:45, and we iced the boat down before meeting Edisto-fisher at the ramp at 4:30. Got out of the creek and hit the slop as soon as we cleared the rocks. Stopped to put a waypoint in, and almost took a wave or two over the bow. Decided to push on out figuring it was just left over from the night before. Got about 20 miles, and it started spacing out where we could make over 20kts finally.
Got to some deep live bottom, and hunted around for a good while before we dropped to the bottom. Pulled up a 14.25" pink on the first drop. Bummer. Pulled back around and dropped again… pulled up a smallish snowy, but a snowy nonetheless. Dropped again and pulled up two pinks. Put the rig down again and pulled up a snowy and a pink. Dropped another time and got all 4 baits robbed because of edisto-fisher’s attempted “slack line technique”… Dropped again with a live bait on the 2nd hook, and they let the captain fish it this time. I pulled up another snowy hooked on the live bait then. We tried to get the 4th to limit us, but we got pinks after a few drops and then finally a tilefish. That was it for us on the snowy’s and tiles then because of our regulations.
Came into shallower water to catch gags and scamps, but the sonar crapped out. I stupidly packed the back of the display unit with a towel and a couple hats and other stuff behind the windshield. I removed all this to check the connector at the back, and the heatsink on the back of the unit was very hot. Haven’t called lowrance yet, but I’m sure that’s what the deal is. Wish there was some sort of thermal protection in there to keep it from totally being lost. I don’t think it was my transducer. The GPS still worked fine though, so we fished blind for 2 hours and caught our limit of B liners and pinks. My cousin also caught an ARS, and Edisto-fisher caught a smoker 30lb king and a 5lb C bass. The wind picked up quick then, and we started heading in.
My low oil warning went off at that point, and the HPDI c
Oil is easy to forget. I had it happen once but luckily had a full extra gallon on board. Making my way back to the hatch where the extra oil should have been was the most heart wrenching 10 feet I’ve ever walked. Opening the hatch and seeing the oil made me very happy, obviously. I’m glad you were able to get it all worked out in the end. I would have traded oil for grouper any day!
talked to scott he told me what happened glad yall made it back safe i tried to raise yall on the radio looks like yall had a decent day with the grouper we trolled about 3 hours at edisto banks one king about 25-30 pounds then got ran off by the wind and the rain
I may be wrong as the SC regs are a bit fuzzy but are suppose to be a mirror of the fed regs. Out of your 3 fish grouper/tile combo only 1 can be a snowy and 1 can be a golden tile. You can have 3 blue tiles, or 1 snowy and 1 golden tile and 1 whatever else(gag, scamp, hind, blue tile sand tile, etc.)
May be a moot point as the amendment 17 regs may impose a 1 golden tile per vessel and allocate only 550 or so snowys for the entire rec fleet.
I may be wrong as the SC regs are a bit fuzzy but are suppose to be a mirror of the fed regs. Out of your 3 fish grouper/tile combo only 1 can be a snowy and 1 can be a golden tile. You can have 3 blue tiles, or 1 snowy and 1 golden tile and 1 whatever else(gag, scamp, hind, blue tile sand tile, etc.)
May be a moot point as the amendment 17 regs may impose a 1 golden tile per vessel and allocate only 550 or so snowys for the entire rec fleet.
You cannot have more than 1 snowy or tile per person within each person’s 3-fish aggregate bag limit. Snowies and tiles are not 1 per boat. Kitties and warsaws are 1 per boat.
4 people were on my boat yesterday; therefore, 3 snowies and 1 tilefish limited us. We could have kept up to 8 more grouper of gag/scamp/red species in addition to this as long as no more than 4 gags were kept.
Grouper and Tilefish Combinations - 3 per person per day from this group; no more than 1 Gag or Black Groupers or more than 1 Snowy Grouper or more than 1 Snowy Grouper or Golden Tilefish may be included in this total (state & federal waters).
Blueline Tilefish, Golden Tilefish, Misty Grouper, Sand Tilefish, Snowy Grouper, Yellowedge Grouper - no more than 1 Snowy Grouper or Golden Tilefish may be included in this total - (state & federal waters). - No size limit - No closed season
Yes, but I believe they goofed with the “more than 1 Snowy Grouper or more than 1 Snowy Grouper or Golden Tilefish” line as that doesn’t even make sense. I don’t see SC adopting the entire fed reg and changing that one line intentionally.
After looking at the SC regs more closely I see your point. However it appears they grouped more together than the fed reg and screwed us in the process.
The comment I made about the 1 golden tile per boat and allocation of the snowies is based on the amendment 17 prefered alternatives. Not law yet but just as the other amendments, its coming.
SCDNR has screwed us with more restrictive regulations on snowies, goldens, and blue tiles thatn the fed regulations called for, whether intentional or not.
But you keeping one more snowy is not the point. Amendment 17B is.
Snowy Grouper
Undergoing Overfi shing and Overfi shed
Management measures implemented
in 2006 through Amendment 13C are
projected to end overfi shing of snowy
grouper and rebuild stocks, primarily
through regulations affecting the commercial
fi shery that have reduced annual
quotas and implemented strict trip
limits. The current preferred alternative
in Amendment 17B includes a commercial
ACL (82,900 lbs. gw) based
on the TAC and interim allocations
established in Amendment 13C.
A recreational ACL for snowy
grouper has been set at 523 fi sh, making
it very diffi cult to monitor. The
Council’s preferred alternative would
set a daily bag limit of 1 snowy grouper
per vessel and implement AMs for the
recreational fi shery (as outlined below
FWIW, I just spoke to someone at SCDNR that stated it was their intention to adopt the entire Fed Regs unchanged. They are checking into the matter and I will post the updates as I receive them.
Under the fed regs, you can have one snowy AND 1 golden tile, or 3 blueline tiles or any other combo as long as you dont exceed 1 snowy and 1 golden tile per person.
DNR has updated their site, but it is still a little confusing.
this is the email I received concerning the changes.
Thanks for your call earlier. The new Grouper/Tilefish (3) three fish aggregate can include no more than 1 Snowy Grouper, 1 Golden Tile, one Gag or one Black Grouper. The sentence in the web site info (http://www.dnr.sc.gov/regs/saltwaterfish.html) “Grouper and Tilefish Combinations - 3 per person per day from this group; no more than 1 Gag or Black Groupers or more than 1 Snowy Grouper or more than 1 Snowy Grouper or Golden Tilefish may be included in this total (state & federal waters)” is a little wordy and confusing. The state of South Carolina adopts federal fisheries law as state law under statute # 50-5-2730.
Three Blueline Tile would also complete your aggregate bag limit.
I have forwarded a suggestion to our webmaster to reword the confusing sentence to bring it into compliance with the actual Federal regs.
Thanks for the heads up.
Tight lines.
p.s. before I hit send, the sentence on the website has been changed.
the Stardust was offshore yesterday on channel 65…we did not hear anyone on the radio all day…we were in the outcrop area…were you monitoring channel 65? would loved to have helped…we saw 2 boats all day long…
the Stardust was offshore yesterday on channel 65…we did not hear anyone on the radio all day…we were in the outcrop area…were you monitoring channel 65? would loved to have helped…we saw 2 boats all day long…
My radio stays on Ch. 16 unless I’m trying to get somebody on another channel.
Phin, glad you were able to make it out and back safely. Your post reminds us all that offshore fishing is always a risk and is not to be taken lightly by anyone, even those as experienced as you!
I have read these regs and the argument back and forth. Did Phin catch a limit or was he 1 snowy and 3 tiles short?
Also where are the pics EF? You guys are falling down on your jobs here. We expect more from you.
If you can’t fix it with a hammer, you’ve got an electrical problem.
S4G,
I didn’t see it as an argument and hope Phin did not either. We were getting our info from different sources that did not match up. As stated in the email from DNR, they have adopted the fed regulations as they are and just confused the wording in the state regs. According to the fed regs you can have 1 Snowy and 1 Golden tile per person(part of your 3 fish agg). You can have up to 3 blue tiles or sand tiles in your 3 fish agg.
