Why would the harbor pilot have the say so over where a public boat ramp goes? I understand it needs to be a certain distance away from the port, but really?
It would have been really great to get a new ramp when they put in that Noisette Park a few years back.
I second what fritzy said. bachman and his family are good people, the likes of which we could use more of around here, rather than the 60 or however many terds moving here everyday from where ever.
that area is so packed with boats these days anyway, fritzy how far do you think you will have to run to catch fish in 5 more years?? are the same spots you fished 10years ago still producing??
The distance from the ramp to the grillage will never change…
well we could always put a ramp at the grillage
I spoke to the SI zoning commissioner recently when they first closed the road. He told me they were “restoring the ramp to it’s historical usage.” To which I asked him why would anyone, historically, build a road through the marsh to a creek if not to launch a vessel?
Basically, he droned on and on with spurious rationale for the closure. Complete hogwash.
A long long slow walk in the spartina gives you time to think big thoughts and put your mind back into order.
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Everyone wants to throw the Smith family under the bus, but this crowd probably frowned on what went on there for years. If there was any sign of damage to the marsh from vehicles, foot traffic , etc… all it takes is an anonymous call to a SCDHEC office and they will come inspect.
https://www.scdhec.gov/HomeAndEnvironment/Docs/CLBO_Manual.pdf
What went on where for years?
I’m sure Mr. Bachman Smith is a nice guy. I do not know him personally, but if other CF’ers say he’s nice, I have no doubt. Just because you’re nice however, does not mean that that you won’t use your position of power to do enforce change you want done. Mr Smith says, and I quote, “We have spent the money to rehabilitate this landing, and I for one think it would be unwise to allow the type of traffic that would take it right back to its previous state.” The ironic thing about that statement is that they are still going to let vehicle traffic drive on the landing. What do you think does more damage to the landing? A 6,000 lbs truck, or a 200lbs aluminum boat on a trailer behind a truck. Also ironic is that they reference the degredation of the ramp itself, yet last time I checked none of the $20,000 went to fixing the ramp into the creek. (which wasn’t messed up by the way).
In my opinion Mr. Bachman didn’t want boats launching there for whatever reason and he used his position of power to fix that. Keep in mind the council voted 7-0 on the measure, so it’s not all on Mr. Smith. I don’t live on Sullivan’s so I can’t complain too much but I sure do miss taking my 8 year old and 4 year old twin boys to that ramp, loading them in the Jon boat and trying to catch some fish without ever getting into the ICW. I guess I’ll by some Kayaks until the time they stop that too.
Technically speaking ,it’s a protected area. What do you think the bank would look like if no vehicles and boats could access the spot?
I thought technically speaking, it was a public road?
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Originally posted by poly ballTechnically speaking ,it’s a protected area. What do you think the bank would look like if no vehicles and boats could access the spot?
People have been using the landing since the 1920’s. I imagine if vehicles and boats could not access that spot, or never had for that matter, it would look about what it looks like 20 feet on either side of the ramp. Some mud with Marsh grass.
If their true intent was to protect the area, then why allow vehicle traffic and kayak/canoe launching. Driving a truck down the roadbed and dragging a kayak, canoe, etc down the ramp probably is no different than backing a trailer into the creek.
Just my opinion. I’m sure they are good folks that made the decision and they have every right. I’m going to focus on trying to put some military guys on some fish this weekend. Have a great week.
You launch ,and never step on salt marsh?
Why would you want more landings? That just gives more people access to more areas. I would rather have more areas that are less accessible and hold more fish. You can run from wappoo cut to mcclellanville in an hour or from cherry point to Beaufort in ab 45 minutes. As far as the fishing changing in the last 15 years. There are definitely less spots on main waterways. More boats so sometimes these main spots see lots of traffic. Many still produce. The red fishing is better than it was 15 years ago because the population declined so much 30 years ago. The one area it’s way different is fly fishing. Nobody used to do it so tailers were much less spooky. No everybody with google earth can find a hard bottom flat.
When I lived on Sullivan’s in law school a few years ago, I would drop my jon boat in there 3 or 4 days a week. There were never more than a couple of other trailers there, and I never saw anyone put in any boats bigger than mine. It really made living there a fantastic experience. I think this is unfortunate and unnecessary.
You are all intelligent people. No one in that neighborhood gives a (**() about the shape of that ramp. If they had a boat and were utilizing that ramp, they would have restored it and not blocked it off. This decision was made by residents to stop the flow of “non-sullivans homeowners” from driving through their neighborhood with a boat and trailer.
Do not tell fish stories where the people know you; but particularly, don’t tell them where they know the fish.
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The asshats are the folks that post the locations of these once hidden jems online. The internet chatter about locations like this is rampant on a google search. One example, I was at a little cut last year, that a lot of locals don’t even know about & some folks were putting in there from Ohio. They heard it was a good fishing spot from online.
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Originally posted by Slim ShadyThe asshats are the folks that post the locations of these once hidden jems online. The internet chatter about locations like this is rampant on a google search. One example, I was at a little cut last year, that a lot of locals don’t even know about & some folks were putting in there from Ohio. They heard it was a good fishing spot from online.
Times change unfortunately. Heck men are even marrying men. I still remember Dorchester being a single lane road with no traffic on it. Seems many out of stater’s love what we have in the Lowcountry. I still can not believe all the new Housing developments being put up in and around Charleston on swamp/marsh land. Our waterways will never be the same, but on a positive note I am seeing oyster beds in places that haven’t had them in many years. That will help with bank erosion with the extra boat traffic. maybe.
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Capt. Fritz, are you the same fritz that used to hang with Cracker?
CCM.
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Originally posted by CaptFritzAsshats started dropping in their new 22ft center consoles and
Fritz hit the reason on the 1st page. I recall seeing some 18’ CCs with TTops launching there. Was it 2 or 3 years ago there was an abandoned aluminum v-hull about 200’ from the landing? That pos sat there for a couple months (w/ fuel tank and battery).
As far as keeping it a secret… Anyone with eyeballs would find this crossing the Don Holt. That’s how I found it 10 years ago. What are all those trucks w/ boats doing in the marsh?
Are the trout still thick at the Awendaw Creek canoe launch?
Regards