So much for honoring promises

Last week, I attended the South Atlantic Fishery Management Council’s Visioning Workshop in Charleston where the council decided what to include in the long-range management plan for the snapper-grouper fishery – a plan the council promised would be “stakeholder-driven.”

You may recall that the SAFMC conducted 26 port meetings last year and a series of public hearings this summer seeking input on the Vision plan.

The results were crystal clear: snapper-grouper stakeholders do not support job-killing catch share programs, expensive electronic vessel monitoring, and more no-fishing zones as ways to manage the fishery.

According to the stakeholder comments the SAFMC receive this summer:

97% oppose catch shares
94% oppose electronic vessel monitoring
90% oppose more closed fishing areas

So it would seem a SAFMC decision to honor its promise of a stakeholder-driven Vision plan by removing these overwhelmingly opposed measures would be easy.

It was not.

In a meeting that was not recorded for the public record, nor broadcast via webinar, a vote to remove catch share programs from the Vision plan barely passed on a 7 to 5 vote.

After 97 percent of fishery stakeholders opposed any form of catch shares, SAFMC members Jack Cox (NC), Chris Conklin (SC), Charlie Phillips (GA), Zack Bowen (GA), and the designee for Roy Crabtree (NOAA) all voted to ignore stakeholders and keep catch shares in the plan.

So much for honoring promises.

Even though mandatory catch share programs were removed from the Vision plan, the SAFMC supporters of catch shares managed to get a possible voluntary catch share program included.

This effort to privatize the snapper-grouper fishery is led by well-funded special interest groups. It’s not about fishery sustainability, because there is no biological benefit to catch shares. It’s about who will control the fishery and make the most money.

The SAFMC did remove from the plan electronic vessel monitoring and mo

Sounds like you need to remove some members from the council.

Money is a dangerous thing. We need to get it out of politics.


First, Most, Biggest

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Originally posted by CFSF

After 97 percent of fishery stakeholders opposed any form of catch shares, SAFMC members Jack Cox (NC), Chris Conklin (SC)</font id=“red”>, Charlie Phillips (GA), Zack Bowen (GA), and the designee for Roy Crabtree (NOAA) all voted to ignore stakeholders and keep catch shares in the plan.


Seems like a conflict of interests going on...

I would also like to point out that Chris Conklin is not only in the seafood business (and OWNER of 2 commercial fishing vessels), but he is also a SC representative on the council. His email address is publicly listed on the website, and I would encourage anyone to share any feelings that they may have with him.

http://www.safmc.net/AboutUs/CouncilMembers/Chris-Conklin

Chris Conklin
P.O. Box 972
Murrells Inlet, SC 29576
843-543-3833 phone
conklinsafmc@gmail.com

Please also notice his statement of disclosure which includes the ownership of 2 COMMERCIAL SNAPPER/GROUPER boats:

http://safmc.net/sites/default/files/About-Us/pdf/Council%20profiles/Conklin_SupplementalFinDisclAug15.pdf

Anybody ready for a boat convoy yet? I got three ready when y’all have had enough of this compromising bill@#@#.

C

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Originally posted by skinneej

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Originally posted by CFSF

After 97 percent of fishery stakeholders opposed any form of catch shares, SAFMC members Jack Cox (NC), Chris Conklin (SC)</font id=“red”>, Charlie Phillips (GA), Zack Bowen (GA), and the designee for Roy Crabtree (NOAA) all voted to ignore stakeholders and keep catch shares in the plan.


Seems like a conflict of interests going on...

I would also like to point out that Chris Conklin is not only in the seafood business (and OWNER of 2 commercial fishing vessels), but he is also a SC representative on the council. His email address is publicly listed on the website, and I would encourage anyone to share any feelings that they may have with him.

http://www.safmc.net/AboutUs/CouncilMembers/Chris-Conklin

Chris Conklin
P.O. Box 972
Murrells Inlet, SC 29576
843-543-3833 phone
conklinsafmc@gmail.com

Please also notice his statement of disclosure which includes the ownership of 2 COMMERCIAL SNAPPER/GROUPER boats:

http://safmc.net/sites/default/files/About-Us/pdf/Council%20profiles/Conklin_SupplementalFinDisclAug15.pdf


Jason, you also neglected to mention Charlie Phillips, who owns Phillips seafood in Sapelo Island Georgia. He also owns commercial boats so again a conflict of interest. Those two have plenty to gain just from Cat shares and should be booted from the board

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NMFS = No More Fishing Season

“Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him”

They are a bunch of frigging liars…WTH is an “In Season” closure. Was gonna grouper fish in Florida in a few weeks, but they shut down Reds. Unreal.

No doubt sellsfish. I just singled Conklin out since he is basically a representative of SC.I think it is time he represents us.

I know Chris and he is a good dude. It’s just human nature to look out for your livelihood. The fact is that if US commercial guys don’t harvest fish, foreign vessels will…It’s a huuuuge GD International mess. You have these Pirate boats illegally harvesting fish Worldwide. I swear…The only thing that will straighten this whole mess out is large scale world wide Ocean aquaculture that will drive the price of seafood down. Argue away.

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Originally posted by Redstripe

I know Chris and he is a good dude. It’s just human nature to look out for your livelihood. The fact is that if US commercial guys don’t harvest fish, foreign vessels will…It’s a huuuuge GD International mess. You have these Pirate boats illegally harvesting fish Worldwide. I swear…The only thing that will straighten this whole mess out is large scale world wide Ocean aquaculture that will drive the price of seafood down. Argue away.


Bull****, if he sold us out,how in the hell can you say this???
He used to be a good dude, now he’s an azzhole who didn’t stick to the convictions that I’m sure he spouted before he was put on the board!!!

Why are you sticking up for a liar and a turncoat? What’s in it for you?

Typical response to getting ****ed over is mind blowing to me," I know this guy and he’s a good dude."
Un- ****ing believable!!!

I would be willing to bet he was one of those telling us to give to the recreational fishing alliance and if so,what does that make him???
A Big (**() Con Man,not a good dude!!!For all is f us who attended public hearings,who clapped our hands when guys like Chris were appointment, and who stick to our principals, kiss my hairy azz.

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Originally posted by Redstripe

I know Chris and he is a good dude. It’s just human nature to look out for your livelihood.


So you are suggesting it’s okay to use a public office for personal gain? Maybe he is the wrong guy for the job. I’m not suggesting that he is evil, but when you represent the state, then you need to represent the state, not yourself.

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The fact is that if US commercial guys don't harvest fish, foreign vessels will....

This is NOT true… All of the species that he is licensed for are within our 200 mile EEZ which excludes access to foreign vessels. It’s the exact reason why the Magnusson Stevens act came into being.

Just so you guys know, there are X-commercial fishermen in the gulf who own 100’s of thousands of shares. They are “X” because they figured out that it’s easier to lease out their catch shares to other people… So, let’s say that you own 100,000 lbs of shares, and you lease them out to Joe Blow for $1 per share. Joe Blow goes out and does the work and makes money, but you sit in your lazy boy watching the Simpsons taking selfies with your $100K check that you only have because the government let you “own” those shares. I haven’t personally verified, but I heard of an instance where one guy was making $400K per year from leasing out his shares. How is this fisheries management?

Of course commercial guys want this, especially if they have been putting up good harvest numbers. How does the government determine who gets shares? Basically they look at your catch history. If you have been catching 100K lbs of fish for the past several years, you will be given 100K catch shares when the program converts over (or whatever your % is relative to other’s catch history and total amount of shares). But basically, you are GIVEN catch shares based on your harvest history.

I would imagine Conklin will be in a good place since he owns TWO, ACTIVE boats…

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Originally posted by skinneej

Just so you guys know, there are X-commercial fishermen in the gulf who own 100’s of thousands of shares. They are “X” because they figured out that it’s easier to lease out their catch shares to other people… So, let’s say that you own 100,000 lbs of shares, and you lease them out to Joe Blow for $1 per share. Joe Blow goes out and does the work and makes money, but you sit in your lazy boy watching the Simpsons taking selfies with your $100K check that you only have because the government let you “own” those shares. I haven’t personally verified, but I heard of an instance where one guy was making $400K per year from leasing out his shares. How is this fisheries management?

Of course commercial guys want this, especially if they have been putting up good harvest numbers. How does the government determine who gets shares? Basically they look at your catch history. If you have been catching 100K lbs of fish for the past several years, you will be given 100K catch shares when the program converts over (or whatever your % is relative to other’s catch history and total amount of shares). But basically, you are GIVEN catch shares based on your harvest history.

I would imagine Conklin will be in a good place since he owns TWO, ACTIVE boats…


I cannot believe how STUPID some of these people are to have bought in (literally and figuratively) to what EDF has been selling for years. As a commercial fisherman, how stupid are you to really believe that kind of money would be given to you in grants or spent on political campaigns and on technocrats and lobbying only so that YOU can be one of a few commercial interests remaining in business??? Think about how ridiculous that is.

All this is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO easy to figure out if you just follow the

We dont need a fish dynasty no need for a few to take it ALL

I’m not defending him. I just said I knew him, and thought he was a good dude, and that it’s human nature to want to save your livelihood. They are succeeding in their agenda as they a both conquering and dividing us. If I was on this panel or board or whatever I would choose rec fishermen over the commercial guys, because it’s what I am. This is what it’s come down to.

I understand that Chris may be a likeable guy. I have known many “nice guys” that could cut your throat and not get a drop of blood on your shirt. Chris should have abstained from this vote because of a conflict of interest. Instead he cut our throats.

Catch shares should NEVER be sold. If the individual holding that share doesn’t use it for a year it should be given, not sold to someone that will. Kinda like being paid not to plant a crop.

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Originally posted by natureboy

Chris should have abstained from this vote because of a conflict of interest.


THIS is the moral high road... He should have abstained. Period...

Not only did he cut recreational throats, he cut his own throat. There are many more recreational anglers than commercial. This is one of those situations were “taking one for the team” would be in his best interest in the LONG RUN… Now, all he has done is tick off a lot of recreational guys who want his head on a stick… How is that looking out for himself?

I totally agree with you guys that he should have abstained. I didn’t think about that being an option. All I’m saying is that when you see the possibility of your way of life that you have maintained for muti generations, as I believe he has, you tend to look out for yourself. I guess he didn’t consider all of the repercussions.

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Originally posted by Redstripe

I totally agree with you guys that he should have abstained. I didn’t think about that being an option. All I’m saying is that when you see the possibility of your way of life that you have maintained for muti generations, as I believe he has, you tend to look out for yourself. I guess he didn’t consider all of the repercussions.


Understood, and we get it... This is why I posted his email address so that people can send him their thoughts (positive or negative).

That being said, I don’t see how a lack of catch shares is a ding against commercial fisherman. Right now, they have boat limits and seasonal quotas. If he sticks with that, his lifestyle does not change. Catch shares are a BOOST to his lifestyle, not a preservation of his lifestyle. This is what people are upset about. Essentially, the “lightweight” commercial fishermen are being pushed out by the “heavyweight” commercial fishermen and quota is being transferred from the lightweight to the heavyweight. It’s really a fish grab…

Skinne…Don’t forget Chris has a big retail operation in Murrells Inlet. Could him not having access to product there weigh into his decision…?