Well said Sells nothing pushes the tuna down like 100 boats at the GTH. Yet the guys that always catch fish catch them those days too.
Papa I agreed with you last time on the ribbing of Court but you have gone to far. You are on your own on this one. For the record you REALLY smell like and alais.
Finally adios, I paid for the Washington trip! Where are you again? [:0}
If you can’t fix it with a hammer, you’ve got an electrical problem.
Courtland,
You have any of that tuna left? I just finished my last piece up tonight for dinner and would like to try new a recipe I found for Wednesday.
This thread sure does sound familiar, CORNHOLIN"; nasty word and selfish behaviour seem to go hand in hand. “share and share alike” seems to be the quote for the day, let’s put this subject of cornholin’ to rest once and for all, won’t stop and shouldn’t stop. Just like a famous restaurant, good food, friends, always draws a crowd, always will.
“The big one’s still swimming, let’s go.”
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Originally posted by skinneejquote:Really?
Originally posted by rookieflyfshrI would give the ole left testicle for a shot at one of those Blackfin with the fly rod. That looks like a blast. Nice catch!!!
Yes sir. You don’t happen to need a left testicle do you? Catching different species on the long rod is my passion, other than watching my dog work.
I do agree that 90% of fish are caught by 10% of the fishermen… still trying to figure out which category I fit into… anyway…Fishing offshore is certainly not for everyone and I feel sorry for people who don’t get to experience what the ocean has to offer because it is something I truly love to do…Just remember gulf stream fishing especially in the winter is no walk in the park…34 degrees, over a three hour run from the dock…usually not so flat seas…and you might not catch a fish… I have friends who you couldn’t pay to go out there… I don’t like bottom fishing at all…probably because I have not put enough time in bottom fishing to produce good results… I love to troll… there isn’t a better sound then a line coming out of rigger clip and 50 screaming shortly after… it doesn’t matter if it’s a dolphin, bluefin, yellowfin, blackfin, greenfin, purplefin, bonita, cuda, or an old shoe… but that’s me… our boy Courtland hates trolling… why is that? only he can tell you…It’s just his preference… weather people like to live bait, troll, jig, or throw top water plugs it is just what they enjoy
and have confidence in…great knock yourself out… do it all day long if that is what makes you happy…I will stay out of your way the best I can…but I expect the same courtesy… because if you mess up what makes me happy I will throw a hand full of 8oz sinkers at your ass faster than you can shake a stick… There is definitely more than one way to skin a cat… unfortunately there aren’t a whole lot of days us fellows who run smaller boats get to run out there and even fewer days it is nice enough to see the fish on the surface…Next to all you fa ggots s who bi tch and moan about the “secretive fisherman” on this website…I bet most of you couldn’t catch a cold…I would need a calculator to add up all the hours I have spend reading and researching about offshore fishing…If I had put this much effort in when I was in college I might have cured cancer by now…however…the internet is just a
“however…the internet is just a very small part of becoming a better fisherman”
+10 there! well put
"there isn’t a better sound then a line coming out of rigger clip and 50 screaming shortly after… "
you just had to go there didn’t ya!! now that’s all I’m gonna hear in my head while trying to go to sleep tonight! 
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Okay here we are.
First off this is not to strike anybody on a personal basis, and please forgive me for any spelling or grammical errors(I have had my share of cocktails)
MacDaddy
To compare anybodies’ post to there fishing knowledge is not smart of U!
Sellfish
Papa bear has no problem with any body working the same water, if they do it the right way.
The whole deal with this post is about two different ideas. I would like everybody to list the best 5 fishermen in their area, and then see if they post fishing reports on this, or any other site?
Why is that?
Why do people that say they are trying to over turn the bottom fishing laws and still bring unneeded heat to the resource? When anybody posts that they are catching a closed bottom species in plentful amouts just gives the PETA types ammo to help keep the bottom deal closed! (they say that even if we vent a fish right that about 55% die) I have fished in this area a long time, and have seen the changes. Why do think the YFT don’t show up at the Gtown hole like they used to? Could it have anything do to with the heat that this site helps to provide? Fishing pressure is real and the people that love and need the reasorce for a living need to protect it. Courtland posted in an earlier post that he posts’ for his ego,(nothing personel) but this type of attention grabbing egos are going to end up killing OUR fishery!
Papa bear I am honored when you put out my spread!! And if you could bet on someone catching from the mud hole to the blue water on any given day you would get my vote!!
Once again nothing personel, but it is time for people to look what side of the fence they are on!
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Originally posted by tunahuttWhy do people that say they are trying to over turn the bottom fishing laws and still bring unneeded heat to the resource? When anybody posts that they are catching a closed bottom species in plentful amouts just gives the PETA types ammo to help keep the bottom deal closed! (they say that even if we vent a fish right that about 55% die) I have fished in this area a long time, and have seen the changes. Why do think the YFT don’t show up at the Gtown hole like they used to? Could it have anything do to with the heat that this site helps to provide? Fishing pressure is real and the people that love and need the reasorce for a living need to protect it. Courtland posted in an earlier post that he posts’ for his ego,(nothing personel) but this type of attention grabbing egos are going to end up killing OUR fishery!
You lost me here. So should we stop posting fishing reports on a fishing website?? Instead we should just pick on people for asking questions and laugh at people at the boat ramp?
Another way to spin this. The more people involved in the fishery the more support we have to maintain it. i.e. reefs, political representation, funding etc.
Look past the trees into the forest. Getting people involved and teaching them the proper ways to do it is our only chance for survival.
If you can’t fix it with a hammer, you’ve got an electrical problem.
Some of you ribbing me need to look in the mirror. I can’t tell which way your headed but here is a report from last year that someone MAY have given the direction they went. Thier haul was similar if not more robust than ours. No drama there.
http://old.charlestonfishing.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=72424
A few of the people that are riding me have called me, some even called mutual friends to find out the location of my shop to come and talk to me, about this post. After nice lenghty discussions and handshakes they go back and keep riding.
We caught 10 blackfin in an unconventional way, BFD. If you go kill 20 and don’t tell anyone did you do less damage? Want to talk about ego, hell we all got one, so don’t deny it. How bout telling someone to their face you caught x # of fish when guys on your boat said 1/3 of that. I think the problem with ego’s on the net is you got to have picture and proof to back it up.
Please revoke my application to the KOOL KLUB, I’ll hang with the riff-raff.
Good AM!
My rant has nothing to do with the person that started this post or the fish they caught. I think what they caught and how they caught it was pretty cool, and I have told cortland that in person. My problem is that I just don't think that people (not just cortland) get what the fishing preasure can do to a fishery. It goes in 2 ways, bigger crowds on the water and more regs from the goverment. Now before everybody says that crowds are just part of it may be so and maybe I am just plain wrong. I think that people need to look at it like this. You have a pie. It takes some time to make a pie. The pie will feed 10 people, and right now there are 7 people eating the pie. Then the seven people start telling everbody how great the pie is, and then 15 people start eating the pie. After that the pie goes out faster than it come in, and then the first 7 start complaining about no pie!
The main point that the SAFM is saying is that the snapper are being fished at a 7 times substainable rate. How does anybody think that adding heat to the fishery helps it. And bragging about all the fish someone catches is doing just that. Look getting together and trying to fight for our rights back is the right thing to do. I just hope that the reasorce can handle all of this extra attention.
To answer a few ?
Yes I guess I have an ego, but I do try to keep my mouth shut. It seems to me that when I talk with my ego I always get in to some type of trouble.
I do think sites like this serve a great purpose, but fishing reports other than trying to drive a charter business doesn’t make a lot of sence. What do you gain by posting.
Anyways nothing personel to anybody, hope everybody has a great day
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Originally posted by tunahuttGood AM!
My rant has nothing to do with the person that started this post or the fish they caught. I think what they caught and how they caught it was pretty cool, and I have told cortland that in person. My problem is that I just don't think that people (not just cortland) get what the fishing preasure can do to a fishery. It goes in 2 ways, bigger crowds on the water and more regs from the goverment. Now before everybody says that crowds are just part of it may be so and maybe I am just plain wrong. I think that people need to look at it like this. You have a pie. It takes some time to make a pie. The pie will feed 10 people, and right now there are 7 people eating the pie. Then the seven people start telling everbody how great the pie is, and then 15 people start eating the pie. After that the pie goes out faster than it come in, and then the first 7 start complaining about no pie!The main point that the SAFM is saying is that the snapper are being fished at a 7 times substainable rate. How does anybody think that adding heat to the fishery helps it. And bragging about all the fish someone catches is doing just that. Look getting together and trying to fight for our rights back is the right thing to do. I just hope that the reasorce can handle all of this extra attention.
To answer a few ?
Yes I guess I have an ego, but I do try to keep my mouth shut. It seems to me that when I talk with my ego I always get in to some type of trouble.
I do think sites like this serve a great purpose, but fishing reports other than trying to drive a charter business doesn’t make a lot of sence. What do you gain by posting.Anyways nothing personel to anybody, hope everybody has a great day
I was close to posting a YOU TUBE link of PAPA BEAR talkin
quote:I find that disturbing... You are supposed to save the left one for something VERY special... Like maybe one night with Penelope Cruz, or winning the lottery, or a 65' sportfisher... Catching a blackfin on a fly rod is something easily attainable if you try, so I find that you shouldn't go about spending your nutz so frivilously!!! Nutz are not like real money. You can always get more real money, but you have to save your cadbury eggs for something big!!!
Originally posted by rookieflyfshrquote:
Originally posted by skinneejquote:Really?
Originally posted by rookieflyfshrI would give the ole left testicle for a shot at one of those Blackfin with the fly rod. That looks like a blast. Nice catch!!!
Yes sir. You don’t happen to need a left testicle do you? Catching different species on the long rod is my passion, other than watching my dog work.
i should have known better than to tangle with you in your house, that’s my livlihood that i’m trying to promote and my house that i’m trying to protect. i’ll see you on the big pond.
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Originally posted by Courtland[quote]Originally posted by tunahutt
Good AM!
My rant has nothing to do with the person that started this post or the fish they caught. I think what they caught and how they caught it was pretty cool, and I have told cortland that in person. My problem is that I just don't think that people (not just cortland) get what the fishing preasure can do to a fishery. It goes in 2 ways, bigger crowds on the water and more regs from the goverment. Now before everybody says that crowds are just part of it may be so and maybe I am just plain wrong. I think that people need to look at it like this. You have a pie. It takes some time to make a pie. The pie will feed 10 people, and right now there are 7 people eating the pie. Then the seven people start telling everbody how great the pie is, and then 15 people start eating the pie. After that the pie goes out faster than it come in, and then the first 7 start complaining about no pie!The main point that the SAFM is saying is that the snapper are being fished at a 7 times substainable rate. How does anybody think that adding heat to the fishery helps it. And bragging about all the fish someone catches is doing just that. Look getting together and trying to fight for our rights back is the right thing to do. I just hope that the reasorce can handle all of this extra attention.
To answer a few ?
Yes I guess I have an ego, but I do try to keep my mouth shut. It seems to me that when I talk with my ego I always get in to some type of trouble.
I do think sites like this serve a great purpose, but fishing reports other than trying to drive a charter business doesn’t make a lot of sence. What
[quote]Originally posted by PAPA BEAR
i should have known better than to tangle with you in your house, that’s my livlihood that i’m trying to promote and my house that i’m trying to protect. i’ll see you on the big pond. [quote][i]
Not looking for enemies here. We may need each other out there one day. Catch em up.
If you ever want to chat privately feel free to call me at 843-301-4408. I think you’ll find I’m not quite as much an A-hole as you think.
“I do think sites like this serve a great purpose, but fishing reports other than trying to drive a charter business doesn’t make a lot of sence. What do you gain by posting.”
That statement is just brilliant.
I refuse to reply with the obvious.
I don’t get it.
You have a guy like Courtland that goes out - catches more #s of tuna than most us will ever catch in a single trip - comes back and wants to tell us how he did it. This offshore fishing isn’t for the " let’s do it cheap " crowd. It costs money and lots of it - anyone that can help me catch fish through good solid advice when I go offshore has my respect.
Some people here think they’ve cornered the market on fishing knowledge until a Courtland comes along spills a few beans then they get upset about it. It’s big pond out there - lots of fish - some are hard to catch when you can’t go every weekend like me. Any advice on fishing techniques is welcomed and appreciated.
I still don’t get it but all the back and forth could be this.
Reference:
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I think when all the ego stuff is put aside, the reality of the concerns put forward by a few on this post are valid and should not be considered jealous rantings…I know these guys and they have nothing to be jealous about when it comes to offshore fishing. Obviously neither does Courtland.
We all agree that the sport of offshore fishing is taking a big hit from several fronts. The big obvious one is all the new regulations and future regulations being proposed that are having and will continue to have a tremendous effect our ability to fish.
The other big hit to our fishery that many don’t consider, is the technological breakthroughs that have allowed for a relatively easy entry into the sport. Legitimate offshore boats are lighter, stronger, faster, more reliable, use much less gas and are cheaper. GPS units take you right to the spot and good numbers are not hard to come by. And to top it off, you have forums like this that you can go on and get real time tips on what to fish for, to fish with and where and when to fish. As pointed out, yes you do still have to “catch fish”, but it is a WHOLE LOT EASIER to quickly get good at doing it today than it was 20 or even 10 years ago.
The reality is that we are facing reduced fishing areas and species while there is increasing competition for those few spots and fisheries that are left open. At some point in time, one may want to ask themselves, is it best for those experienced in the fishing community to educate and inspire inexperienced fisherman, which by default, leads to more demand on our finite resource? That’s a tough question…I certainly could not find fault with someone who believes we have enough pressure as it is and does not want to promote growth within the fishing community. I think this is where Tunahutt and Papa Bear are coming from.
From what I know of Courtland, he is a good dude, is very generous and cares deeply about our fishery. It is a difference of opinion, however, I am not so certain his educating and inspiring the
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Originally posted by catalacI think when all the ego stuff is put aside, the reality of the concerns put forward by a few on this post are valid and should not be considered jealous rantings…I know these guys and they have nothing to be jealous about when it comes to offshore fishing. Obviously neither does Courtland.
We all agree that the sport of offshore fishing is taking a big hit from several fronts. The big obvious one is all the new regulations and future regulations being proposed that are having and will continue to have a tremendous effect our ability to fish.
The other big hit to our fishery that many don’t consider, is the technological breakthroughs that have allowed for a relatively easy entry into the sport. Legitimate offshore boats are lighter, stronger, faster, more reliable, use much less gas and are cheaper. GPS units take you right to the spot and good numbers are not hard to come by. And to top it off, you have forums like this that you can go on and get real time tips on what to fish for, to fish with and where and when to fish. As pointed out, yes you do still have to “catch fish”, but it is a WHOLE LOT EASIER to quickly get good at doing it today than it was 20 or even 10 years ago.The reality is that we are facing reduced fishing areas and species while there is increasing competition for those few spots and fisheries that are left open. At some point in time, one may want to ask themselves, is it best for those experienced in the fishing community to educate and inspire inexperienced fisherman, which by default, leads to more demand on our finite resource? That’s a tough question…I certainly could not find fault with someone who believes we have enough pressure as it is and does not want to promote growth within the fishing community. I think this is where Tunahutt and Papa Bear are coming from.
From what I know of Courtland,
Agreed. Well put…
One more point, if 10% of the fishermen catch 90% of the fish, what would happen if those other 90% turned into APEX predators as well? Hmmm…
Secrets are good… If you don’t believe me, look at the artificial reef system…
We fished that day on the ledge with the other boats, I never felt that anyone was pushing the school to hard, yes some were out of practice ( myself included ) but the crew of Courtlands boat were never in the way at all.