You can NOT share information on a public forum if you so choose, no one is challenging that, but that doesn’t mean anyone that comes to a public forum and requests general information should be chastised for doing so. A new guy asked for information and he’s greeted with a “go back to where you came from because you’re not one of us” mentality.
I don’t understand the correlation between not knowing how to handle your vessel on the water and where you get your fishing information. I agree there’s no better information than that gathered in the field or on the water but that doesn’t make any other source a “bad” source of information. There’s no such thing as too much GOOD information. The ability to process good information from multiple sources will only serve to make you better at your craft. A moron behind the wheel (in a truck or a boat) is a moron behind the wheel regardless of where they got their directions from.
No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.
Well, I haven't chastised anyone. But yes, I agree, the chastise is not needed.
My point (“correlation”) about where you get your info (re: internet) is pretty straightforward. You mention “morons” behind the wheel. Sure, your point is 100% true. But the point is that when you post that information on a public forum, you don’t have any way to filter out those morons from receiving it. You would be surprised how much people can figure out from the “little” information you give them.
You can NOT share information on a public forum if you so choose, no one is challenging that,
Well, it certainly doesn't not seem that way if you read the comments on here... If people don't spoonfeed info, they are villianized and called "selfish assholes", etc. Go back and read it yourself. Let's be clear. I don't know ANY great fisherman that just spill the beans on the internet every day. Maybe there is a reason for that.
Didn’t mean to imply you chastised anyone. Sorry about that.
Information or not, filter or no filter, as long as they can get their boat to the water, there’s nothing to stop the “moron behind the wheel” from being “that guy.” I get what you’re saying but withholding information isn’t going to stop “that guy” from being who he is. Not that I’m a conspiracy theorist, but I’d be more willing to buy into your comments about people like the SAFMC reading reports and then going after those areas than I would be concerned with sharing the water with “that guy.”
No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.
Didn’t mean to imply you chastised anyone. Sorry about that.
Yeah, no harm done. Didn't think you were, but just wanted to clarify my position for the record.
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Information or not, filter or no filter, as long as they can get their boat to the water, there's nothing to stop the "moron behind the wheel" from being "that guy." I get what you're saying but withholding information isn't going to stop "that guy" from being who he is
But there is a way to not tell “that guy” where I am fishing. It’s a big ocean.
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Not that I'm a conspiracy theorist, but I'd be more willing to buy into your comments about people like the SAFMC reading reports and then going after those areas than I would be concerned with sharing the water with "that guy."
It's not a conspiracy theory. They will tell you face to face that they read this website if you ask them.
You can NOT share information on a public forum if you so choose, no one is challenging that,
Well, it certainly doesn't not seem that way if you read the comments on here... If people don't spoonfeed info, they are villianized and called "selfish assholes", etc. Go back and read it yourself. Let's be clear. I don't know ANY great fisherman that just spill the beans on the internet every day. Maybe there is a reason for that.
I would challenge that any kickback by some towards those withholding information was brought about by the chastising of the guy seeking information. Granted, two wrongs don’t make a right. Again, this all started when others got on the guy seeking information, not the other way around.
No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.
Didn’t mean to imply you chastised anyone. Sorry about that.
Yeah, no harm done. Didn't think you were, but just wanted to clarify my position for the record.
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Information or not, filter or no filter, as long as they can get their boat to the water, there's nothing to stop the "moron behind the wheel" from being "that guy." I get what you're saying but withholding information isn't going to stop "that guy" from being who he is
But there is a way to not tell “that guy” where I am fishing. It’s a big ocean.
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Not that I'm a conspiracy theorist, but I'd be more willing to buy into your comments about people like the SAFMC reading reports and then going after those areas than I would be concerned with sharing the water with "that guy."
It's not a conspiracy theory. They will tell you face to face that they read this website if you ask them.
Exactly! It’s a big ocean. You can give him information, and not lie to them, and probably never see the guy on the water. I don’t go offshore much. I stay inshore and fish freshwater lakes. I can tell someone the fish are schooling on points and they’re eating topwater baits or the trout we
Exactly! It’s a big ocean. You can give him information, and not lie to them, and probably never see the guy on the water. I don’t go offshore much. I stay inshore and fish freshwater lakes. I can tell someone the fish are schooling on points and they’re eating topwater baits or the trout were crushing minnow imitation lures on the outgoing tide in the mouths of creeks and I didn’t giveaway the farm. This is general information. Now, if they start asking which specific point/creek mouths and baits, that’s something I’d discuss in private but tomfishallday didn’t ask for specifics.
Yeah, I didn't think he was asking for specifics on this thread in particular, but I was more responding to the other part of the conversation people using the words like "selfish" or "click" which referenced a history of "not sharing" (history, other threads, etc). Not sure if I am making sense here, but this conversation goes way outside of this thread.
The bottom line is that just because people don’t want to share on public forum doesn’t make them “selfish”. It just means that they understand the damage that the internet can do to the fishery. Most “newbies” aren’t willing to accept this notion because they don’t want to and it means that they would actually have to meet someone and buy them a $2 beer to acquire info. That’s just too much work for some people!
We all have our different tolerances on what we think “too much” information is. I’m just saying, let’s not pretend that we don’t. We ALL have our fishing “secrets”… I’m just saying that if a person has fishing “secrets” and they are pointing fingers at “selfish” people, then they are being a bit hypocritical.
I guess it all depends on who and how you receive the information. I met a good friend because of this board and then met others through fishing and hanging out with said friend. He has helped me tremendously with going offshore, and confidence. That being said, I never asked him for fishing numbers or a ride on his boat, the face to face friendship is where all that came from. I don’t want to see the numbers published either. It is very rare that you go offshore and don’t see some other boat near by fishing. I assume its because we have very little structure and the well known structures are already over pressured. I try my best to stay away from the parking lots and to not fish one place too many times. We all need help from time to time though. I guess there’s a fine line?
Yep I did see the boat that fishes for the wicked tuna restaurant in murrells inlet have 3 boxes of dolphin he caught ovef the weekend while golden tile fishing 45052 59885.Maybe everybody should go.
OK. Its easy. Lots of people have moved to Charleston and fishing is pressured. A bunch . Hell Im sure I am one of the worst and have been fishing offshore and inshore for along time. Swordfishing is easy just go to the Charleston bump.
Good lord. Just signed in and saw my old report thread had blown up. Have to admit my first thought was that someone saw something in the picture that they didn’t like or was not legal and was taking me to task. I guess that kind of goes along with some people’s point about the forum. Whatever the cause the number of fishing reports has declined and I wish I knew a way to reverse that bc I enjoy reading them.
Yep I did see the boat that fishes for the wicked tuna restaurant in murrells inlet have 3 boxes of dolphin he caught ovef the weekend while golden tile fishing 45052 59885.Maybe everybody should go.
Try this weekend in 20+ knot winds. The stream will be very early this year:
Mdaddy- I counted 92 boats within my visibility last May inshore of the 226 hole. The fishing would have been really good that particular day but the number of boats and pressure scattered the fish and pushed them deep. Secrets do matter and fishing pressure does matter. World isn’t getting any less crowded last time i checked
I remember when there was no GPS and you had to navagate with a loran or by the seat of your pants and very few twin engine boats and not many folks would brave going over 15 mi out! could fish all day and never see another boat! I remember when we got a loran wow did that open doors. I still remember the old RDF’s, got one somewhere in my pile of old junk. Times have changed, to much money out there!!!
