This Years Turnover

quote:
Originally posted by jczc2414

May I ask an ignorant question?
How does the turnover affect the fishing? Just by looking at the graphs, I would guess that the fish are higher in the water column due to the DO. When the waters ‘flip’ does that indicate that the stripers should be going deep?
(OK - That is actually 3 questions including the first one!)

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WS Tarpon 140


Short Answer … lake flip causes stress to fish … stressed fish don’t eat …

Worse Answer … lake flips catches fish in the middle of water that is too hot and too oxygen depleted to sustain the fish … fish caught in the middle usually die …

Both are bad scenarios for fish and fishing … :frowning_face:

it’s my Wife’s fault we HAVE to fish now!!!

2005 Sea Pro 2100cc / Yamaha 150hp 4-Stroke

DO flatlined again this morning?..Did Tim make a deal with the devil last night???

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115 Evinrude

quote:
Originally posted by Stinger 88

Just checked the USGS Stats for Lake Murray, difference between top and bottom is now 1 degree, the bottom oxyen level has started to spike upwards. Just hope this frontal passage doen’t come with wind, if it does it will turn over for sure.


I watched the river flow pretty close this summer looking for times it would be fishable from the kayak. Since I was also watching the lake “bottom” DO level closely I noticed a patern of seeing the “bottom” DO fluxuate for a short period of time when there was major change in water being discharged. I believe that is all that happened with that little spike the other day.

These pics show the bottom DO on the lake and an increase in water being discharged from the lake at exactly the same time.

'07 198 DLX Carolina Skiff
FS90 Suzuki

quote:
Originally posted by Murrymaker

DO flatlined again this morning?..Did Tim make a deal with the devil last night???

“Sea~N~Stripes”
21’ Hewes Craft Custom
115 Evinrude


:imp::imp::imp::imp::imp:

I can see Tim now … chanting in the middle of the lake covered in Striper blood shaking chicken feet at the towers … raaaaaahahahahaahahaahahahaahaha

it’s my Wife’s fault we HAVE to fish now!!!

2005 Sea Pro 2100cc / Yamaha 150hp 4-Stroke

quote:
Originally posted by striperskiff
quote:
Originally posted by Stinger 88

Just checked the USGS Stats for Lake Murray, difference between top and bottom is now 1 degree, the bottom oxyen level has started to spike upwards. Just hope this frontal passage doen’t come with wind, if it does it will turn over for sure.


I watched the river flow pretty close this summer looking for times it would be fishable from the kayak. Since I was also watching the lake “bottom” DO level closely I noticed a patern of seeing the “bottom” DO fluxuate for a short period of time when there was major change in water being discharged. I believe that is all that happened with that little spike the other day.

These pics show the bottom DO on the lake and an increase in water being discharged from the lake at exactly the same time.

'07 198 DLX Carolina Skiff
FS90 Suzuki


Soooooooo the discharge acts to aerate the water? … kinda like a bubbler at the bottom of the lake …

it’s my Wife’s fault we HAVE to fish now!!!

2005 Sea Pro 2100cc / Yamaha 150hp 4-Stroke

I’ve noticed in years past that the DO will jump for a few hours or a day or so and then drop again right around the time the final turnover happens. I assumed it was because there would be a pocket of more oxygenated water that made it’s way to where the sensor is and them moved away from the sensor. Maybe it had more to do with them running water.

quote:
Originally posted by Lawcrusher
quote:
Originally posted by striperskiff
quote:
Originally posted by Stinger 88

Just checked the USGS Stats for Lake Murray, difference between top and bottom is now 1 degree, the bottom oxyen level has started to spike upwards. Just hope this frontal passage doen’t come with wind, if it does it will turn over for sure.


I watched the river flow pretty close this summer looking for times it would be fishable from the kayak. Since I was also watching the lake “bottom” DO level closely I noticed a patern of seeing the “bottom” DO fluxuate for a short period of time when there was major change in water being discharged. I believe that is all that happened with that little spike the other day.

These pics show the bottom DO on the lake and an increase in water being discharged from the lake at exactly the same time.

'07 198 DLX Carolina Skiff
FS90 Suzuki


Soooooooo the discharge acts to aerate the water? … kinda like a bubbler at the bottom of the lake …

it’s my Wife’s fault we HAVE to fish now!!!

2005 Sea Pro 2100cc / Yamaha 150hp 4-Stroke


Just happened to pick up on the pattern…didn’t say I could explain it!! LOL

'07 198 DLX Carolina Skiff
FS90 Suzuki

Maybe when they pull water some of the top water gets pulled down which would cause the DO to come up…who knows. . I am sure there is some marine biologist that cant wait for this thread to pop up each year. They probably get a good laugh at us coming up with all the different ideas that we do…haahah…

I can picture them eating lunch in there lab coats saying…“man you have to read this stuff. This is like comedy central”

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21’ Hewes Craft Custom
115 Evinrude

quote:
Originally posted by Murrymaker

I can picture them eating lunch in there lab coats saying…“man you have to read this stuff. This is like comedy central”

“Sea~N~Stripes”
21’ Hewes Craft Custom
115 Evinrude


Yeah … now throw in the visual of Tim chanting in the middle of the lake covered in Striper blood shaking chicken feet at the towers …

:smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

it’s my Wife’s fault we HAVE to fish now!!!

2005 Sea Pro 2100cc / Yamaha 150hp 4-Stroke

quote:
Originally posted by Lawcrusher

Yeah … now throw in the visual of Tim chanting in the middle of the lake covered in Striper blood shaking chicken feet at the towers …

:smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:


It’s only weird if it doesn’t work.


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quote:
Originally posted by Murrymaker

Maybe when they pull water some of the top water gets pulled down which would cause the DO to come up…who knows. . I am sure there is some marine biologist that cant wait for this thread to pop up each year. They probably get a good laugh at us coming up with all the different ideas that we do…haahah…

I can picture them eating lunch in there lab coats saying…“man you have to read this stuff. This is like comedy central”

“Sea~N~Stripes”
21’ Hewes Craft Custom
115 Evinrude


That’s funny…and probably very true. :smiley:

'07 198 DLX Carolina Skiff
FS90 Suzuki

No, the marine biologist is more like one of the board members on the SAMFC. This is where they obtain their scientific data.

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WS Tarpon 140

quote:
Originally posted by jczc2414

No, the marine biologist is more like one of the board members on the SAMFC. This is where they obtain their scientific data.

Sea Hunt BX22 Br
WS Tarpon 140


blahahahah that’s even better

“Sea~N~Stripes”
21’ Hewes Craft Custom
115 Evinrude

huh??? What??? I didn’t hear what you guys were sayin’ … :smiley::smiley:

it’s my Wife’s fault we HAVE to fish now!!!

2005 Sea Pro 2100cc / Yamaha 150hp 4-Stroke

Mu buddy said he fished there yesterday said the lake turned over Fri or Sat. Water all yuk looking, that bad smell, etc. And his fish did not bite.

I have not looked at those charts to see what they say but he said it was obvious.

quote:
Originally posted by gar-heart

I may be wrong but I think she’ll turn over by Sunday.


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quote:
Originally posted by steelytom

I know that is typically happens in mid November, but the bottom temperatures on the USGS site are at 76*. So will the lake turn over once the surface temperature goes below 76*. If that is the case then we are only one cold spell away from turnover. I know that would be very unusual, but warm water rising and cold water sinking is what triggers the turnover. Maybe there is colder water below that will prevent an early turnover. Very odd seeing the O2 flat linned for the last 3 weeks.

http://nwis.waterdata.usgs.gov/sc/nwis/uv?cb_all_00011_00011_00062_00300_00010_00300_00010=on&cb_00011=on&cb_00011=on&cb_00062=on&cb_00300=on&cb_00010=on&cb_00300=on&cb_00010=on&format=gif&period=5&begin_date=2012-07-07&end_date=2013-08-07&site_no=02168500

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Bottom DO currently at 3.2 and rising…Good call on the early turnover!!

'07 198 DLX Carolina Skiff
FS90 Suzuki

quote:
Originally posted by striperskiff
quote:
Originally posted by steelytom

I know that is typically happens in mid November, but the bottom temperatures on the USGS site are at 76*. So will the lake turn over once the surface temperature goes below 76*. If that is the case then we are only one cold spell away from turnover. I know that would be very unusual, but warm water rising and cold water sinking is what triggers the turnover. Maybe there is colder water below that will prevent an early turnover. Very odd seeing the O2 flat linned for the last 3 weeks.

http://nwis.waterdata.usgs.gov/sc/nwis/uv?cb_all_00011_00011_00062_00300_00010_00300_00010=on&cb_00011=on&cb_00011=on&cb_00062=on&cb_00300=on&cb_00010=on&cb_00300=on&cb_00010=on&format=gif&period=5&begin_date=2012-07-07&end_date=2013-08-07&site_no=02168500

Wellcraft V-20 sportfish with a 200 Evinrude


Bottom DO currently at 3.2 and rising…Good call on the early turnover!!

'07 198 DLX Carolina Skiff
FS90 Suzuki


Edit: Spoke too soon. Back down near 0 again.

'07 198 DLX Carolina Skiff
FS90 Suzuki

Spoke too soon on speaking too soon. Back up again. This is the up and down I was talking about the other day. It’s should stick given our weather pattern for the next few days though near 90 degree highs later in the week might slow it down again.

No turnover yet. The fish and bait balls were right where I left them last Sunday. Yes. I caught some on spoons, though the action was a bit slower than last week. The 2 23 inchers were the only legit keepers come Tuesday. I was bumping bottom in 50 feet with the big Berry Spoons from 12:30 to 3:45 this afternoon.

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