So the Southern Patriot or other house boats docked at the marinas that haven’t hurt anyone have to go? It’s all about speed, and a limit isn’t going to work without radar. Either no plane after sunset or nothing.
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Originally posted by 7csSo the Southern Patriot or other house boats docked at the marinas that haven’t hurt anyone have to go? It’s all about speed, and a limit isn’t going to work without radar. Either no plane after sunset or nothing.
Nope, stated earlier pontoon and houseboats would have different length restrictions. As well as sailboats. It really doesn’t matter to me, act stupid on the water and you will get an ear full from me. I don’t have any problem chasing down someone and letting them know how irresponsible they are being on the water. Seen way to many idiots follow behind kids on tubes, cutting folks off, or running by bobbing skiers on full plane.
For the life of me I don’t know why everyone needs to be in such a hurry.
“Wailord”
1979 17’ Montauk
90 Johnson
Wilderness Ride 115
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Originally posted by Geronimoquote:
Originally posted by 7csSo the Southern Patriot or other house boats docked at the marinas that haven’t hurt anyone have to go? It’s all about speed, and a limit isn’t going to work without radar. Either no plane after sunset or nothing.
Nope, stated earlier pontoon and houseboats would have different length restrictions. As well as sailboats. It really doesn’t matter to me, act stupid on the water and you will get an ear full from me. I don’t have any problem chasing down someone and letting them know how irresponsible they are being on the water. Seen way to many idiots follow behind kids on tubes, cutting folks off, or running by bobbing skiers on full plane.
For the life of me I don’t know why everyone needs to be in such a hurry.
“Wailord”
1979 17’ Montauk
90 JohnsonWilderness Ride 115
Ok, lets take your example of 24ft for power. How about the twenty three ft Key West that ran over and killed two people a few years ago? Where is the line? Also, he had twin 115’s. Is he not allowed but my 23ft w/ a 225 is? It’s about speed. Period.
No doubt.
No laws on Lake Murray will ever pass, so it doesn’t really matter. Just make sure if you go out after dark, wear a life jacket. I get that we don’t like it during the day as it gets too hot, but there really isn’t any excuse not to if you are out after dark.
Also, there is no rush to get back to the hill. Why do you want your lake day to end so quickly? I usually always cruise back across the lake below planing speed, just enjoy the relaxing ride. So many people are drunk and for some reason just want to show everyone how great their new boat rides, just let the idiots cruise on by. But if you are the captain, keep your head on a swivel as not to get run over. The only time I truly relax on the lake, is at the dock, and on the beach. Everywhere else, it’s a job and everyone that takes other lives in their hands as captain should look at it as such also.
“Wailord”
1979 17’ Montauk
90 Johnson
Wilderness Ride 115
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Originally posted by GeronimoNo doubt.
No laws on Lake Murray will ever pass, so it doesn’t really matter. Just make sure if you go out after dark, wear a life jacket. I get that we don’t like it during the day as it gets too hot, but there really isn’t any excuse not to if you are out after dark.
Also, there is no rush to get back to the hill. Why do you want your lake day to end so quickly? I usually always cruise back across the lake below planing speed, just enjoy the relaxing ride. So many people are drunk and for some reason just want to show everyone how great their new boat rides, just let the idiots cruise on by. But if you are the captain, keep your head on a swivel as not to get run over. The only time I truly relax on the lake, is at the dock, and on the beach. Everywhere else, it’s a job and everyone that takes other lives in their hands as captain should look at it as such also.
“Wailord”
1979 17’ Montauk
90 JohnsonWilderness Ride 115
That’s it in a nutshell. Unfortunately, alcohol, ego, and/or ignorance trump common sense sometimes.
something ive always been curious of, what is the law broken for shooting a flare at someone? would there be some kind of fine or would there be jail time?
If I’m posting, its because I’m sitting here at work, dreaming about fishing.
First, there is a federal law against unlawful discharge of a distress signal. Meaning you weren’t in distress, then I am sure some attorney could prove intent to harm, and get you on an attempted man slaughter charge.
“Wailord”
1979 17’ Montauk
90 Johnson
Wilderness Ride 115
yeah i guess i didnt think that one through well enough
If I’m posting, its because I’m sitting here at work, dreaming about fishing.
Another AVOIDABLE nighttime boating fatality… http://www.wistv.com/story/35437692/body-found-during-search-for-missing-boater-on-lake-norman
We can’t use the old “nothing will get done to fix it anyway so…” approach because things would stay as they are and that is unacceptable. These types of incidents, NOT ACCIDENTS, are completely avoidable.
No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.
I wonder why boats don’t have lights that are more visible? Think about it. Planes have blinking lights or strobes, cops whether on boats or cars have the same so that they get noticed, helicopters do, as well as cell,towers so they get noticed. Why wouldn’t a boat have some type of pulsing light, or movable linear light kind of like KITT on Nightrider?
Maybe outboard manufacturers should be required to have lights on the top of the cowl built-in on each side that run front to back. And maybe they light up from back to front to get ones attention.
“Wailord”
1979 17’ Montauk
90 Johnson
Wilderness Ride 115
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Originally posted by GeronimoI wonder why boats don’t have lights that are more visible? Think about it. Planes have blinking lights or strobes, cops whether on boats or cars have the same so that they get noticed, helicopters do, as well as cell,towers so they get noticed. Why wouldn’t a boat have some type of pulsing light, or movable linear light kind of like KITT on Nightrider?
Maybe outboard manufacturers should be required to have lights on the top of the cowl built-in on each side that run front to back. And maybe they light up from back to front to get ones attention.
“Wailord”
1979 17’ Montauk
90 JohnsonWilderness Ride 115
No doubt. IMO, the minimum legal lighting requirements for boat operation at night are not stringent enough. I’m not sure of the exact solution, but there’s a lot of options out there with the availability now of cheap, bright, low power LEDs.
I fish almost exclusively at night during the summer and use a bright LED bulb on a mast that makes the entire boat visable.
It’s getting more common to see boats with LED strips around the entire boat too.
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None of this matters if there is no DNR to enforce the rules. I haven’t seen a DNR boat on the lake in years. I do stay away from Murray except in the winter. Even when I do see the DNR they are more worried about fisherman then “riders”. We as fisherman present a lot more potential fines then do people just riding around. I think all boats on the water should have to pay the same as fisherman. Our license helps to support the DNR financially. If I want to go skiing all I need is insurance and registration. Which fisherman also need. It seems the DNR is only concerned with fisherman on the lakes and that’s a problem. I also see some of the same issues on the roadways. Nobody gets tickets for the small stuff anymore. Just like on the water. See a guy plowing a huge wake, no warnings or tickets, or even just stopping them and giving them a boating lesson.
correct me if i’m wrong, but in south carolina, i dont even think you need insurance to own or drive a boat
If I’m posting, its because I’m sitting here at work, dreaming about fishing.
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Originally posted by ReeldawgNone of this matters if there is no DNR to enforce the rules. I haven’t seen a DNR boat on the lake in years. I do stay away from Murray except in the winter. Even when I do see the DNR they are more worried about fisherman then “riders”. We as fisherman present a lot more potential fines then do people just riding around. I think all boats on the water should have to pay the same as fisherman. Our license helps to support the DNR financially. If I want to go skiing all I need is insurance and registration. Which fisherman also need. It seems the DNR is only concerned with fisherman on the lakes and that’s a problem. I also see some of the same issues on the roadways. Nobody gets tickets for the small stuff anymore. Just like on the water. See a guy plowing a huge wake, no warnings or tickets, or even just stopping them and giving them a boating lesson.
Where did you send your last boat registration payment?
“Wailord”
1979 17’ Montauk
90 Johnson
Wilderness Ride 115
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Originally posted by ReeldawgNone of this matters if there is no DNR to enforce the rules. I haven’t seen a DNR boat on the lake in years. I do stay away from Murray except in the winter. Even when I do see the DNR they are more worried about fisherman then “riders”. We as fisherman present a lot more potential fines then do people just riding around. I think all boats on the water should have to pay the same as fisherman. Our license helps to support the DNR financially. If I want to go skiing all I need is insurance and registration. Which fisherman also need. It seems the DNR is only concerned with fisherman on the lakes and that’s a problem. I also see some of the same issues on the roadways. Nobody gets tickets for the small stuff anymore. Just like on the water. See a guy plowing a huge wake, no warnings or tickets, or even just stopping them and giving them a boating lesson.
Where did you send your last boat registration payment?
“Wailord”
1979 17’ Montauk
90 Johnson
Wilderness Ride 115
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Originally posted by ReeldawgNone of this matters if there is no DNR to enforce the rules. I haven’t seen a DNR boat on the lake in years. I do stay away from Murray except in the winter. Even when I do see the DNR they are more worried about fisherman then “riders”. We as fisherman present a lot more potential fines then do people just riding around. I think all boats on the water should have to pay the same as fisherman. Our license helps to support the DNR financially. If I want to go skiing all I need is insurance and registration. Which fisherman also need. It seems the DNR is only concerned with fisherman on the lakes and that’s a problem. I also see some of the same issues on the roadways. Nobody gets tickets for the small stuff anymore. Just like on the water. See a guy plowing a huge wake, no warnings or tickets, or even just stopping them and giving them a boating lesson.
I couldn’t disagree more. Fishermen, especially those that fish tournaments, are more squared away than the average booze cruiser or gas burner and the DNR know that. Sure, they still do “courtesy checks” but I’ve seen far more “pleasure boaters” being checked than fishermen, especially on Murray. As far as seeing and/or not seeing DNR on the water, there’s two primary reasons for that. One, I don’t know how much you follow the SC DNR and the budget issues they’ve been facing over the last 10-15 years but simply put, there are FAR less DNR LEO’s out there now than there used to be so there aren’t enough of them to be seen on every island and boat landing on Lake Murray, let alone all of the other lakes and boat landings throughout the state. The second reason is quite simple too, it’s the DNR LEO you CAN’T see that’s going to get ya. Just because you can’t see them doesn’t mean they’re not around, trust me.
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I pay my registration to the same place as everyone else in South Carolina.
Bangstick- we as fisherman are subject to the same fines as riders plus the potential for the game laws. Has nothing to do with tournament fisherman. I’ve been checked plenty of times when fishing tournaments. The DNR budget has been decimated with budget cuts over the last 15 years. Hence my first sentence. I also said I only fish Murray during the winter. So, I don’t see the riders getting checked.
I’m pretty sure any riders in the winter are fisherman, so DNR is out basically checking fisherman making sure you all have life jackets so if you fall over they don’t have to spend their depleted resources searching for your body. I’m sure writing gaming violations just comes with the territory. Not sure what your point is on your winter observation, other than maybe it’s easier to check a boat fishing rather than speeding across the lake to their next spot. If you can’t handle a safety check and license/registration verification and a possible courteous education of how to be safe fishing in the winter you might want to take up scrap booking or something.
I’ve been stopped 100s of times in my 25+ years of boating, and I can only think of one time when I didn’t like a DNR check. And I was 17, in the wrong, and I should have still been fine with the stop. It was for a little too much wake coming under a bridge no wake zone. I appreciate all they do, respect the water and laws always, and never get in a hurry, so a boat check never gets me upset.
“Wailord”
1979 17’ Montauk
90 Johnson
Wilderness Ride 115
i guess my point wasn’t relayed properly. It’s not an inconvenience. It’s not a safety factor. I’m the one who brought up the point of not having enough DNR guys on the water. We need more so that we wouldn’t have as many of these issues. Geronimo, were on the same page. Why attack me. From my 30+ years of operating boats and 25+ years of tournament fishing that has been my observation. I’ve been checked many times and honestly it’s not always welcomed. Two days in a row by the same guy seems a bit much. Or being checked during a tournament when we were checked that morning. It’s my opinion that fishermen are more of a target for DNR then just riders. It’s just what I’ve seen. Sounds like by reading these post that most people are seeing the same thing. Non of these post complain about fisherman but one. Everybody is complaining about riders.
Winter time is the only time I fish Murray. When I have to due to a tournament. That was my point about the winter. I don’t have much experience in the last 10 years on Murray. I prefer to stay away from that madhouse.