quote:Oh, you think he saw the baby through the tinted window? Is that why he drug the baby out into the street and beat it?
Originally posted by Blue_RunnerThe 2nd thug who tried to break the rear window…where do you think the 2 yr. old was sitting?
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They slashed the front right tire when he was first stopped. He was riding on the rim for 4 miles. When they finally stopped him they beat his window out and drug him into the street, they beat his rear window out and then they went to the passenger window to get to the wife. They tried to break that window and that’s when 2 bystanders stepped in called the police and said “enough”.
And I don’t think he stopped beating the babies window because he saw the baby, just that his hand hurt like hell when he realized it ain’t gonna happen with my fist.
Just stating the facts, not trying to argue this point anymore because it doesn’t matter. He did what he did, and we would do what we would do.
I find it disgusting though to see Gloria Allred jumping to the defense of the guy that was run over for publicity.
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Just look at him, clearly a baby killer! 
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Originally posted by skinneejquote:No way. That's a ridiculous statement. It's pure, fabricated speculation that is not even likely. Nobody even approached her window. It was pretty obvious that they were after the driver.
Originally posted by Blueskyguyonly thing that saved his wife were a couple bystanders that stepped in
In a group of 70+ bikers, you don’t think that one of them would put a stop to hurting a woman or child? Please…
OK to make a slight correction to my statement, 2 bystanders did step in and stop the thugs from removing the wife from the vehicle, that is fact and well documented by the police. I agree that if they had not done that then it’s possible that a biker may have stepped in. But up to the point when the bystanders stepped in there were no bikers that were stopping the attack.
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That is EXACTLY what I am saying. That, and the fact that every action has a consequence.
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Am so glad to see you say one thing I can agree with. Yes, every action has a consequence.
The thugs started the confrontation, they got what they deserved. And some got much less than they deserved. Again, put me in that truck and I’d run them over one at a time until they decided to stop attacking. Rather be judged by a jury of my peers than on the street by thugs.
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Originally posted by Blueskyguyquote:
Originally posted by skinneejquote:No way. That's a ridiculous statement. It's pure, fabricated speculation that is not even likely. Nobody even approached her window. It was pretty obvious that they were after the driver.
Originally posted by Blueskyguyonly thing that saved his wife were a couple bystanders that stepped in
In a group of 70+ bikers, you don’t think that one of them would put a stop to hurting a woman or child? Please…
OK to make a slight correction to my statement, 2 bystanders did step in and stop the thugs from removing the wife from the vehicle, that is fact and well documented by the police. I agree that if they had not done that then it’s possible that a biker may have stepped in. But up to the point when the bystanders stepped in there were no bikers that were stopping the attack.
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Now, from this picture, I will give you that at the end, they did smash the wife’s window:
http://nypost.com/2013/09/30/bikers-attack-suv-after-driver-rams-riders/
But I have not seen any article that says that bystanders stepped in to save the wife and baby. Can you post a link? The only bystander that I have seen mentioned is the one that stepped in to keep them from kicking the driver on the ground. The article seems to indicate that the wife was still present while watching her husband get a beat down.
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quote:Or one would pull out a firearm and kill you, your wife, and your baby until you stopped running over their friends. Escalation...
Originally posted by BlueskyguyAgain, put me in that truck and I’d run them over one at a time until they decided to stop attacking.
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Originally posted by skinneejquote:Or one would pull out a firearm and kill you, your wife, and your baby until you stopped running over their friends. Escalation...
Originally posted by BlueskyguyAgain, put me in that truck and I’d run them over one at a time until they decided to stop attacking.
ho, hum it seems that you’ll continue your one-man campaign to convince everyone that these were harmless school boys that had no ill intent = too funny
apparently you didn’t see the news when the two bystanders were interviewed and given award for their actions, and no I won’t waste my time locating the footage for you
if the auto is the only weapon I had i’d use it with great vigor to prevent the attackers from having the chance to use a gun
you choose to call it escalation
I choose to call it prevention
end of convo for me 
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quote:Now you are just pulling stuff out of your ass. I said no such thing and implied no such thing... Can we at least have an honest discussion? There is no need to put false words in each other's mouths and play for the straw man...
Originally posted by Blueskyguyho, hum it seems that you’ll continue your one-man campaign to convince everyone that these were harmless school boys that had no ill intent = too funny
quote:Taking out 70+ bikers in the blink of an eye before someone can pull a gun on you. That's some pretty amazing driving.
Originally posted by Blueskyguyif the auto is the only weapon I had i’d use it with great vigor to prevent the attackers from having the chance to use a gun
This is exactly the problem with the “what would you do” arguments. People think in terms of “best case scenario”. Nobody thinks about the bad that could happen if you make the wrong decision.
I bet you think that kind of reckless driving would not endanger the child in the car? Give me a break…