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It seems impossible for an idiot like me to even ask a question without some negative egotistical response…So I deleted it.Seems the controlling gurus cant show respect!

Maybe I am dumb but sure looks like Fritzy and ratdaddy are insulting fishermen(see their below responses).Must be their ego needs boosting so they make each other important.

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Locating schooling fish can be accomplished by riding around looking for flats boats. How is that challenging?

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Your question makes the presumption that people that throw artificials only chase schooling fish… You can throw artificials to non-schooling fish as I regularly do. I would say that artificial lures are more are more challenging on fish in their “natural habitat” and on schooling fish in my opinion. I would challenge you to take some artificial lures to your honey holes and test it out for yourself against live bait.

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Soaking bait at the Grillage and Dynamite hole or riding around the creeks looking for multiple boats around a single dock then anchoring up and soaking bait has to be the most challenging.

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I know that 2nd spot!

“Apathy is the Glove in Which Evil Slips It’s Hand”.

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quote:
Originally posted by RADDADDY

Soaking bait at the Grillage and Dynamite hole or riding around the creeks looking for multiple boats around a single dock then anchoring up and soaking bait has to be the most challenging.

You would be surprised at the people that struggle to figure that out.

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No, I definitely wouldn’t.

quote:
Originally posted by CaptFritz
quote:
Originally posted by RADDADDY

Soaking bait at the Grillage and Dynamite hole or riding around the creeks looking for multiple boats around a single dock then anchoring up and soaking bait has to be the most challenging.

You would be surprised at the people that struggle to figure that out.

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It is what it is!

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Not at all Apicket I believe strongly that throwing artifical in non schooling fish is by far the most challenging and difficult.

quote:
Originally posted by Apickett

Your question makes the presumption that people that throw artificials only chase schooling fish… You can throw artificials to non-schooling fish as I regularly do. I would say that artificial lures are more are more challenging on fish in their “natural habitat” and on schooling fish in my opinion. I would challenge you to take some artificial lures to your honey holes and test it out for yourself against live bait.

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Have you ever stalked a school on a shallow flat, toppyblue?

I can tell you that they every bit as spooky as a deer in the woods. It isn’t easy.

Once spooked, they aren’t going to bite until they calm down…which (for me) usually ends up being pretty far away.

Semper Fi
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115 Yamaha
Big Ugly Homemade Blue Push Pole

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Yes hoofarded you are correct…My bad I should have been more specific so as to not step on toes…I was not referring to the reds lieing in shallow water…I was asking about the surface feeding schools .You know the frenzy feeders that gulls like to clean up after.
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quote:
Originally posted by HoofArded

Have you ever stalked a school on a shallow flat, toppyblue?

I can tell you that they every bit as spooky as a deer in the woods. It isn’t easy.

Once spooked, they aren’t going to bite until they calm down…which (for me) usually ends up being pretty far away.

Semper Fi
18’ Sterling
115 Yamaha
Big Ugly Homemade Blue Push Pole

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Good God. You are the gift that keeps on giving. What do you think is an inshore redfish’s natural habitat?

quote:
Originally posted by toppyblue

Yes hoofarded you are correct…My bad I should have been more specific so as to not step on toes…I was not referring to the reds lieing in shallow water…I was asking about the surface feeding schools .You know the frenzy feeders that gulls like to clean up after.
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quote:
Originally posted by HoofArded

Have you ever stalked a school on a shallow flat, toppyblue?

I can tell you that they every bit as spooky as a deer in the woods. It isn’t easy.

Once spooked, they aren’t going to bite until they calm down…which (for me) usually ends up being pretty far away.

Semper Fi
18’ Sterling
115 Yamaha
Big Ugly Homemade Blue Push Pole

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Now I get it 100% ratdaddy,You are a guide protecting your turf! simple as that.You are the one who bragged about seeing hundreds of schools of reds and readily admitted that you fish lures.And already said that is your way and the best way, But did you answer the question here where it was politely asked?? no,just another insult…

I must be a pain in the a-- for you, judging by your responses…

quote:
Originally posted by RADDADDY

Good God. You are the gift that keeps on giving. What do you think is an inshore redfish’s natural habitat?

quote:
Originally posted by toppyblue

Yes hoofarded you are correct…My bad I should have been more specific so as to not step on toes…I was not referring to the reds lieing in shallow water…I was asking about the surface feeding schools .You know the frenzy feeders that gulls like to clean up after.
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quote:
Originally posted by HoofArded

Have you ever stalked a school on a shallow flat, toppyblue?

I can tell you that they every bit as spooky as a deer in the woods. It isn’t easy.

Once spooked, they aren’t going to bite until they calm down…which (for me) usually ends up being pretty far away.

Semper Fi
18’ Sterling
115 Yamaha
Big Ugly Homemade Blue Push Pole

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Nobody can follow you, man. What question?

quote:
Originally posted by toppyblue

Now I get it 100% ratdaddy,You are a guide protecting your turf! simple as that.You are the one who bragged about seeing hundreds of schools of reds and readily admitted that you fish lures.And already said that is your way and the best way, But did you answer the question here where it was politely asked?? no,just another insult…

I must be a pain in the a-- for you, judging by your responses…

quote:
Originally posted by RADDADDY

Good God. You are the gift that keeps on giving. What do you think is an inshore redfish’s natural habitat?

quote:
Originally posted by toppyblue

Yes hoofarded you are correct…My bad I should have been more specific so as to not step on toes…I was not referring to the reds lieing in shallow water…I was asking about the surface feeding schools .You know the frenzy feeders that gulls like to clean up after.
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quote:
Originally posted by HoofArded

Have you ever stalked a school on a shallow flat, toppyblue?

I can tell you that they every bit as spooky as a deer in the woods. It isn’t easy.

Once spooked, they aren’t going to bite until they calm down…which (for me) usually ends up being pretty far away.

Semper Fi
18’ Sterling
115 Yamaha
Big Ugly Homemade Blue Push Pole

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toppy , look back at your fist post ,you did not ask a question, you basically made a statement, what are you asking? put it in the form of a question so people can give you an answer or opinion if that is what you are looking for?

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rattatat daddy locates hundreds of schools on a routine basis…Even though myself and the scientific reports show populations of reds rising…he claims that they are dwindling…Maybe he just cant see as good as a couple years ago…Or maybe he is in denial…Or maybe he is just spouting propoganda to preserve his need to recatch released reds…or maybe he is just having fun with all his one sided negative remarks.His and a couple other guys remarks are indeed childish.

quote:
Originally posted by CaptFritz

Locating schooling fish can be accomplished by riding around looking for flats boats. How is that challenging?

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It is what it is!

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Yeah I made it too complicated sorry…What I was trying to ask was which is more challenging??

1.Riding up to a school of visible feeding reds and throwing lures at them

    OR

  1. Searching out where reds feed (not visible) and using natural live bait.

    I know that trolling around likely spots and casting lures in search of fish is definitely the most challenging and difficult(to me)

    quote:
    Originally posted by paintblend

toppy , look back at your fist post ,you did not ask a question, you basically made a statement, what are you asking? put it in the form of a question so people can give you an answer or opinion if that is what you are looking for?

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here is a quote from raddaddy in other thread " Like I have stated, the schools in most places are not as large as they were several years back and some are gone completely. Like the published article says, redfish populations are cyclical, and this year is the first year in 5 where we have had a strong crop of 1 year old fish, so flats stocks should rebound some in the next few years. Angler education increases every year, therefor, angling pressure increases every year."

to me he is saying that yes the redfish is not as good as it used to be but this year reports show the’re on the come back,and in the next few years , if it holds true will be better (correct me if i am wrong on that) and i am no expert on red fish but i do know it is not easy to just go up on feeding redfish and expect to catch them, they spook easily and then they are gone, that has been my experience with them…but then i do not target them

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I would say that throwing lures at schooling visible feeding reds is more challenging than throwing bait at a feeding location. Only because if you are throwing bait at a spot, you are really just waiting on a fish to eat it. You may have to drift a corked bait properly but that is about it. With arties, even if the fish are feeding, you must present the bait in a somewhat decent manner.

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Again, the gift that continues to give. 46 years of experience, wow. With your knowledge, you must fish at least once every couple of years.

quote:
Originally posted by toppyblue

Yeah I made it too complicated sorry…What I was trying to ask was which is more challenging??

1.Riding up to a school of visible feeding reds and throwing lures at them

    OR

  1. Searching out where reds feed (not visible) and using natural live bait.

    I know that trolling around likely spots and casting lures in search of fish is definitely the most challenging and difficult(to me)

    quote:
    Originally posted by paintblend

toppy , look back at your fist post ,you did not ask a question, you basically made a statement, what are you asking? put it in the form of a question so people can give you an answer or opinion if that is what you are looking for?

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How about I book a trip with you and you show me how to do it? I promise to bow to the master.I am a recreational fisherman and a conservationist but certainly not a greedy egotistical protectionist. Thank you President Bush for making the fatdddys of the world so all knowing.

quote:
Originally posted by RADDADDY

Again, the gift that continues to give. 46 years of experience, wow. With your knowledge, you must fish at least once every couple of years.

quote:
Originally posted by toppyblue

Yeah I made it too complicated sorry…What I was trying to ask was which is more challenging??

1.Riding up to a school of visible feeding reds and throwing lures at them

    OR

  1. Searching out where reds feed (not visible) and using natural live bait.

    I know that trolling around likely spots and casting lures in search of fish is definitely the most challenging and difficult(to me)

    quote:
    Originally posted by paintblend

toppy , look back at your fist post ,you did not ask a question, you basically made a statement, what are you asking? put it in the form of a question so people can give you an answer or opinion if that is what you are looking for?