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Very cool!


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My oldest has been begging me to come down and look for artifacts. I told him it’s kond of hard to just go somewhere without local knowledge and find stuff. Sounds like you did pretty well.

“Apathy is the Glove in Which Evil Slips It’s Hand”.

A changeup once in awhile is always welcome!

When you’re looking for this stuff is it along the main river? Do you get out and walk to find it? I’d be interested in finding some old stuff like that. I’ve found a handful of sharks teeth on the stono. I rode up towards the plantations yesterday and saw some dolphins hammering some fish along the bank at low tide.

Yes, I get out of the boat and look in likely places. It’s all about current. I look for places where a change in current speed drops more heavy items; stones, sharks teeth, whale vertebra, fish vertebra, stone tools, pottery chips etc. Look on the inside of river bends where you see a field of stones deposited by the change in current. Prime time is an extremely low tide after heavy rains. I have found all of the above on mud flats, but it is far less likely. Pottery chips are all over the place if you know what to look for. Don’t expect a lot of nice pieces. Of the hundreds of chips I have, three have a recognizable pattern (art) to them. I hope this helps.
O.C.

“Junk always sounds best.”

I’ve always liked looking for native artifacts too, and looking at them, but I always put them back. Hopefully my grandchildren will be able to look at them too. It is part of the magic and history of our beautiful marshes and it belongs in the marsh, not on my bookshelf, IMO. If we all took something there would be nothing left to see.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not judging or criticizing, we all have to do what feels right to us. This is something drilled into me by my Dad. Many years ago when I was a kid, a buddy and I found a shell mound on a little hammock. We started digging around and found a lot of neat stuff. We each brought home a bucket full of arrow heads, spear heads, pipes and pottery. I proudly showed my dad what we had found and he flew off the deep end. He asked where we got it, I told him, and he said gas up the boat boy, we’re taking it back where it belongs. I asked why I couldn’t keep it and he told me those shell mounds were native American burial grounds and it was grave robbing pure and simple. No different he said than somebody digging up my grandmothers grave and stealing the jewelry from her casket. We took it back and he made me bury it all exactly where it came from. He said this is where it belongs, it belongs to the people and the earth, not to us. I can’t pick up a piece now and not think about that.

I know dozens of places that are loaded with artifacts. I’ve taken my children and showed them, hopefully they can take their children and show them and they can show theirs, but only if we all leave it where it belongs.

Picked these up a month or so back. Looked at them, enjoyed them, think about the people who used them, took a picture, then buried them back in the mud. Maybe you will find them one day too, or your grandchildren will, I hope :sunglasses:

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

"Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever mad

Right on Larry!


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I never learn! Every time I start to post on a regular basis someone reminds me why I shouldn’t. What’s in your closet?

“Junk always sounds best.”

I’m not criticizing you OC, whatever feels right to you is OK with me, just something to think about. My Dad was tough to live with :sunglasses: And I sure don’t have a problem keeping sharks teeth and other fossils, it’s just those native artifacts that I was trained should be left in place. My buddy’s dad let him keep all of his.

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose

My girlfriend has family that live on the stono. We have been combing the area for years. We have a collection of about 200 sharks teeth. Some really good specimens! We have also found countless pottery(whole and broken) We use all the sea glass we have found for an idea for home decor which looks amazing. The coolest items to me are the old bottles! Have found, and displayed many. You never know what you will find, from garbage to some really awesome artifacts! Capt. Larry you need to get a metal detector. There are some really cool old maps that will show you where old forts homes where around charleston. Great detecting!

Never admit to keeping any fish , either. You will get heckled. Everyone knows God put the fish here to torture and take pictures with and throw back in the water. Fish were not meant to be eaten. Congrats on the cool findings. My parents live on the Rice Hope Plantation ricefield on the Cooper River. Helping father build his log cabin back in 1999. We found 6 or 7 coins from the 1860’s. It’s cool what you can find if you look hard enough.

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Never admit to keeping any fish , either. You will get heckled.

Not from me you won’t :smiley: Fish were put here to eat and they are a renewable and sustainable resource, but those native American artifacts are neither, they don’t make those any more. Most of the pottery, arrow and spear heads, pipes and such were not just dropped on the ground, lost, forgot or abandoned. Can you imagine how much work went into making a clay pot, or an arrowhead, or anything else, without using modern tools or any metals? They didn’t just abandon them, or drop them and forget them. When you find more than a few pieces in one place, it was a burial site. The people were buried with their weapons, hunting gear and valuables, and clay jugs full of dried corn and rice to take with them to the next world. Yall can fool with them if you want to, I’m not. Didn’t mean to ruffle feathers :sunglasses:

I got no problem hunting for and keeping revolutionary and civil war artifacts, done a good bit of it myself, old coins, old bottles, buttons, old anything, abandoned in battle, that’s all good, but digging in a shell mound to me would be like digging through the graves at Vicksburg.

And eat all the fish you want:smiley:

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose

I’ll have to check it out sometime to see if I can’t find something to mix it up.

I have been trying to add a little bird identification skills when I’m out on the water. Back in October I was in the Ashley river across from the city marina. I had a float out just messing around fishing. I looked up and saw a beautiful bald eagle flying right by me. I was so happy!!! I keep a field guide on the boat now to help with the less common birds.

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hunt ducks:stuck_out_tongue:… you will get good at bird identification this way too. And thanks for sharing Larry, you just narrowed my spectrum of ignorance.

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Cool stuff thanks for sharing, I will pay more attention next time to what’s below me in the water.would like to take kids shark teeth hunting? Any places by mount pleasant ,awendaw area? Thanks

Where I have the best luck with sharks teeth and other fossils are dredge spoil sites. Look in the places where they pump the mud from dredging the ICW.

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose

Definately at low tide. I always look for rocky and sandy banks. beware the mud!

I have to ask… why is it good to put these things back? They’re pottery. If they’re not removed from the water they’re just going to corrode and disintegrate eventually. Why not remove them so they can be enjoyed by people instead of being crushed into dust? It’s almost like picking up native american litter. As long as you’re not trouncing around a Native American burial pile, I would think it’s more irresponsible to leave history in the mud.