As a Tiger fan I need to be honest and admit that we have a good team, not a GREAT team. Great teams don’t suffer the breakdown of fundamentals when they get pressure.
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Any Clemson fan that thinks they DESERVE to be in that bowl game is out of touch with reality. It’s plain and simple. Conference tie ins and that alone is what has them there. It will be fun to see how the fans spin it in to something that just isn’t there.
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How you figure? The only other team they had to pick from, if conference tie ins didn’t apply, would have been Oregon.
Why would Oregon deserve to go to the Orange Bowl over Clemson? They had the same record, lost to a top 5 team, and an unranked team and didn’t play in the Pac 12 CG. Clemson lost to the number 1 team, and lost to a top 10 rival and didn’t play in the ACC CG. Also fans will drive to Florida from SC but not from Oregon. Seems pretty clear cut to me.
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I agree, Bama shouldn’t be in the Sugar Bowl either.
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Bama was the #1 team all season long and is currently ranked #3 in the country. Are you saying the #3 team in the country shouldn’t be in a BCS bowl game? Tatertalk at its best if so.
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Originally posted by CaptFritzquote:Just curious but you do know that the Gamecocks are playing in the Capital One bowl right. Your little posters might be funny if they were relevant.
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I didn’t make it and could care less what bowl the Coots play in… Insert any bowl in the photo and Coot fans still cry…
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Nope, you said Duke should be the ACC tie in because they won their division. I just said that means Bama shouldn’t be either using your Coot logic.
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Originally posted by GeronimoNope, you said Duke should be the ACC tie in because they won their division. I just said that means Bama shouldn’t be either using your Coot logic.
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Coot Logic can never be used by someone other than a coot fan when trying to make sense of a situation…
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Originally posted by GeronimoHow you figure? The only other team they had to pick from, if conference tie ins didn’t apply, would have been Oregon.
Why would Oregon deserve to go to the Orange Bowl over Clemson? They had the same record, lost to a top 5 team, and an unranked team and didn’t play in the Pac 12 CG. Clemson lost to the number 1 team, and lost to a top 10 rival and didn’t play in the ACC CG. Also fans will drive to Florida from SC but not from Oregon. Seems pretty clear cut to me.
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Conference tie in’s didn’t apply. The OB was free to take any team they wanted from a conference with BCS affiliation that had not filled their quota. They could have taken Oregon but as you said, it is highly doubtful their fans would travel 3000+ miles for the bowl. Clemson is a known entity for the OB and it simply boils down to filling seats and money.
Fritz, Duke won the Coastal Division and is a (**() good team but their fan base is small and wouldn’t fill 1/3 of the allotment. Cutcliffe has done an amazing job with what he has to work with. Never mind that in the Coastal division they are the only ranked team at #24. Clemson spent the majority of the year ranked in the top 10 and are just outside of it now.
Clemson makes economic sense to be in the bowl with the conference limitations set by the BCS system.
It has zero to do with personal perceptions and everything to do with money.
Thank goodness this is the last year we should have this debate with a playoff coming. Both Clemson and Carolina had their chances to be in the running for it all, both crapped the bed. Both are going to quality bowls as also rans. The only difference is the payout.
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Someone translate for me. What does (**() mean? Particularly as applied to Duke.
“Apathy is the Glove in Which Evil Slips It’s Hand”.
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D A M N, as in they were 10-2 team reg season, won their division and out of 120 D1 teams that’s nothing to scoff at no matter the conference. Duke has sucked historically but they put together a (**() good team this year. Even though they got smoked in the ACCCG, those kids were hitting hard and executing for a little while until FSU woke up.
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Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn’t go so far as to call a dog filthy but they’re definitely dirty. But, a dog’s got personality. Personality goes a long way.
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Originally posted by CaptFritzquote:Auburn would have been a tough game in the SECCG. Sucks to have lost to Tenn. I wonder how Clemson fans feel now knowing that if they would have just beat FSU that they could possibly be playing for a National championship?
Originally posted by GeronimoI wonder how Carolina fans feel now knowing that if they would have just beat a 5-7 UT that they would probably be playing in the national championship. That’s gotta suck.
we don’t have to worry about it because with the loss to USC we would never have been playing for a NC anyway. So the FSU loss was irrelevant.
Got it. D A M N good? Not sure. Yes, 10-2 is good but, their strength of schedule is 77. The rest of their division was very mediocre. I’d say good but not D A M N good. But hey, tomayto, tomawto.
“Apathy is the Glove in Which Evil Slips It’s Hand”.
LSU is average. Ranked higher. Same number of wins. But just average
It should also be stated, that if this was next year under the new system, that USC would be left out of one of the premier bowls as well and still be playing in the Citrus Bowl.
I know most of you probably hadn’t looked at the rules and how they would apply to this years rankings, but USC would just miss out.
Granted, the whole ranking would probably be different once the polls and computers go away. More than likely USC would be ranked ahead of Mizzou with the committee putting common sense in the mix.
I am very curious as to just how much “love” the committee will actually give USC and Clemson next year. Most people don’t give much love to either program.
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I have not looked at the rules for next year. But what you said sound right from what I know of them.
Just keep in mind this year, I would not say USC was left out. Because of the 2 team rule, there were no options. This is why Clemson is a BCS game. Tie-in and 2 teams rule
I wonder if anyone took the time to figure out what the bowls would look like without conference tie ins. SEC SEC SEC is all you would see
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quote:Just said AT LEAST Duke won their division. All that other drivel is just your interpretation of what I said
Originally posted by GeronimoNope, you said Duke should be the ACC tie in because they won their division. I just said that means Bama shouldn’t be either using your Coot logic.
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