I never fished a tournament, and don’t intend to, but I have read three pages of opinions, and one thought comes to mind. If the tournament managers created all this confusion by not being careful about the rules, should they not pay the price and give both top boats the first place money? Then they could be respected enough to allow them to manage future tourneys.
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Originally posted by RealfinI never fished a tournament, and don’t intend to, but I have read three pages of opinions, and one thought comes to mind. If the tournament managers created all this confusion by not being careful about the rules, should they not pay the price and give both top boats the first place money? Then they could be respected enough to allow them to manage future tourneys.
I feel like this might semi save their ass. There is also the docking issue, poor communication with captain’s, lack of workers for weigh in, and list goes on. It was simply a mess.
Millacd I wish I would have run the tournament cause there probably wouldn’t have been all this confusion. By edisto canceling there tourney it kinda through everything for a loop for everybody. I agree every captain should attend the captains meeting so all issues can be resolved prior to blast off. I guess to make everyone happy take the 1st and 2nd money combine them and split down the middle
Just reel or get broke
I’ve never fished in a inshore/offshore tournament but I’ve fished countless bass tournaments. First, “captain’s meetings” were held the day before the tournament and were absolutely mandatory. If you didn’t attend, you didn’t fish. If you couldn’t attend, you had to notify the tournament director and you had to have someone “stand-in” for you at the meeting. I’ve fished bass tournaments since the '80’s and I’ve never seen anything like this.
As far as the late weigh-in, I think 3rd place would have a gripe here. I don’t know how far they paid down but everyone that was in the money and the first team out of the money should have a gripe here. In bass tournaments, you’re penalized weight (1 pound) for every minute you’re late. If you’re 15 minutes late to weigh-in your catch for that day is disqualified. If the “official” weigh-in was in fact at 6pm, the 62lb dolphin would’ve been disqualified and everyone below that fish would’ve moved up one place in the pay-out order. If it was 7pm, then everyone needs to deal with it and move on.
The fact that there was so much confusion to begin with says a lot about the lack of organization by tournament organizers. If we ever had a tournament with this kind of CHARLIE FOXTROT, attendance for tournaments run by that particular organizer would drop severely, if anyone attended it at all. Has anyone reached out to the tournament organizers? Did they give an “official” word or ruling? If so, what was it? This should be resolved by them, not the anglers.
Like I said, I’ve never fished an offshore tournament but seeing this debacle, this tournament sure as hell wouldn’t be my first.
No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.
Love how silent the tournament people are on this. It’s not like they posted spam on literally EVERY forum during the leadup to this event or anything… But now they can’t pony up and address the issue. Freaking hilarious to me
See ya at Bohicket…
“mr keys”
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Originally posted by northchuckyLove how silent the tournament people are on this. It’s not like they posted spam on literally EVERY forum during the leadup to this event or anything… But now they can’t pony up and address the issue. Freaking hilarious to me
See ya at Bohicket…
“mr keys”
Probably at advice of lawyers?
Plenty to figure out for them before saying anything…not surprised actually.
Wadmalaw native
16’ Bentz-Craft Flats Boat
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Originally posted by leadenwahboyquote:
Originally posted by northchuckyLove how silent the tournament people are on this. It’s not like they posted spam on literally EVERY forum during the leadup to this event or anything… But now they can’t pony up and address the issue. Freaking hilarious to me
See ya at Bohicket…
“mr keys”
Probably at advice of lawyers?
Plenty to figure out for them before saying anything…not surprised actually.
Wadmalaw native
16’ Bentz-Craft Flats Boat
I can see that but you’d think they’d at least say something to at least let people know they’re aware of the situation and are working on a resolution. Sticking their head in the sand isn’t doing anything for their future tournaments, that’s for sure.
No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.
I’m pretty sure after two threads and six pages of *****ing, they’re aware of the situation.
We fished it and thought weigh in was at 6 as well. Congrats on the two nice fish.
Isn’t the whole point of the Captain’s meeting to clarify the rules and ask questions? Who enters a tournament and doesn’t go to the captain’s meeting?
Who organizes a tournament and doesn’t make the captain’s meeting mandatory? Apparently the organizers of this tournament.
Yes, I just answered my own question. Lol!
No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.
I’m breaking my Never Post Rule to comment. This is all terrible publicity for the Marina if it goes beyond this message board. The sponsor needs to pay out first place money for both fish AT A MINIMUM. It screwed up. It needs to fix it. These two boats (and the other 74 boats) entered the tournament to win. Otherwise we all would have just gone fishing with $200 more in our pockets.
Money aside, it really sucks that there are two boats with monster fish and neither can rightfully be declared the winner. That’s the worst part. Miss Emily and the boat with the 62 pounder are both getting hosed, if you ask me.
quote:Why make it mandatory? Why not just give people the opportunity to be responsible if they want to? Would you start taking attendance? The way I see it, if you don't make it to the Captain's meeting and there is a change, that's on you.
Originally posted by bangstickWho organizes a tournament and doesn’t make the captain’s meeting mandatory? Apparently the organizers of this tournament.
Yes, I just answered my own question. Lol!
No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.
quote:I disagree. Unless they state in the registration packet that attendance at the capt meeting is required, a team should be able to pay, read the rules, fish and show up at the scales on time. The onus to not screw up the rules and times should be on the tournament committee and chairperson, not the participants. There also seems to be some discussion that not everyone at the capt meeting representing the tourney knew the times the scales closed. It's a cluster for them all the way around and hopefully they make good on their error.
Originally posted by skinneejquote:Why make it mandatory? Why not just give people the opportunity to be responsible if they want to? Would you start taking attendance? The way I see it, if you don't make it to the Captain's meeting and there is a change, that's on you.
Originally posted by bangstickWho organizes a tournament and doesn’t make the captain’s meeting mandatory? Apparently the organizers of this tournament.
Yes, I just answered my own question. Lol!
No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.
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1987 Landau
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Originally posted by skinneejquote:Why make it mandatory? Why not just give people the opportunity to be responsible if they want to? Would you start taking attendance? The way I see it, if you don't make it to the Captain's meeting and there is a change, that's on you.
Originally posted by bangstickWho organizes a tournament and doesn’t make the captain’s meeting mandatory? Apparently the organizers of this tournament.
Yes, I just answered my own question. Lol!
No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.
Why not make it mandatory?
As far as “taking attendance,” yes, I would. Again, I have no experience with saltwater tournaments but in the bass fishing tournaments I’ve fished, there was a registration deadline and a mandatory meeting the day before the tournament. At this meeting, all rules were explained, boaters were paired with non-boaters. launch flights were given and weigh-in times were given. I realize some of that doesn’t pertain to these offshore tournaments but the point being is you get all participants in one area at the same time to hash out the “details” of the tournament. Why leave anything to chance? Why not control what you can control? If I were organizing a tournament, I would do everything in my power to remove as much “what if” as I could. Sure, there’s always going to be “that guy” but in my example, I could look at them and say “you were at the captain’s meeting where we covered… (insert topic here) … so you were made aware. I’m sorry you weren’t paying attention but ignorance isn’t an excuse.” Su
So exactly what is a Captain’s meeting for then?
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Originally posted by skinneejquote:Why make it mandatory? Why not just give people the opportunity to be responsible if they want to? Would you start taking attendance? The way I see it, if you don't make it to the Captain's meeting and there is a change, that's on you.
Originally posted by bangstick
Why make it mandatory? So things like this do not happen. Most big poker runs have a capts meeting. EVERY race from power boats to go carts has a drivers meeting that you have to be at. From what I see the big money tournaments have mandatory meetings as well.
Yes, they do take attendance. If you’re not there you don’t race or do the poker runs. Reason for cat’s meetings are to avoid this kinda crap. Like I said before…in this meeting it lasted 5 mins. These are the rules. Someone said 7pm they said no its 6pm then as the guy heading things up is speaking the chick they put on the committee boat was like…Im ready to blow this popsicle stand and get my drink on peace out. So of course last thing she heard was the 7pm being tossed around. If they have the tournament next year you best believe the meeting will be mandatory and if its not. Something like this is bound to happen again.
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Among other things, it should be used to cover the rules of the tournament and discuss/address any questions or concerns before hitting the water on tournament day.
Good’ol skinneej!! I believe you’d cross your momma and go in the opposite direction of your own moral compass just to play devil’s advocate. Lol!!!
No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.
quote:Believe whatever you would like. I'm just curious as to what you think the captain's meeting is for. Would you like to answer?
Originally posted by bangstickAmong other things, it should be used to cover the rules of the tournament and discuss/address any questions or concerns before hitting the water on tournament day.
Good’ol skinneej!! I believe you’d cross your momma and go in the opposite direction of your own moral compass just to play devil’s advocate. Lol!!!
No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.
I covered why I believe pre-tournament meetings, or “captain’s meetings,” should be mandatory and what I believe they are for in my last couple of posts. Granted, I base that on my tournament experience and not that of old salts such as yourself, but just because I didn’t give the answer you may or may not have wanted, doesn’t mean I didn’t answer it.
No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.