I just spent 45 minutes reading this thread, and I’m glad I did. I made the trip last year 4 times and caught 0 cobia and about 100 Atlantic Sharpnose per trip. There has to be something wrong with that. I never even saw a fish caught around us, but the sharpnose were coming over the rail steady. I think I’ll save my gas money this year.
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Originally posted by Karl B“I suggested an upper slot at the meeting. There wasn’t much said in support of it or against it.”
Certainly this is one possible change to the regulations. I think the problem with this suggestion is that people tend to gaff big fish to get them into the boat. At that point, it’s too late to throw them back if they are over the slot. I think this presents a larger problem at the top end than at the bottom end, as smaller fish are easier to handle.
All of these are good suggestions and I don’t mean to exclude them as possibilities. I’m just trying to relate the various obstacles to each choice.
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You may not have been around in the earlier years of this forum when somebody posting a pic of a bull spot tail (over slot) being held up for a picture the wrong way would get them run out of here at the tips of pitch forks.
When a community knows there is a need for regulations for conservation purposes, and you have buy in from everyone that future generations will surely benefit from what is enacted, you’d be amazed at how the culture on the water and in the fishing community changes (for the better).
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Not a bad point, but a lot of the “Bubbas” (as you called them) don’t exactly have what I’d call a conservation-mindset. (Refer back to Redneckn’s earlier post about his buddies).
And, I think it fails to account for the significant difference in handling a 40+lb spottail at boatside versus handling a 40+l
Now wait a minute there Bo ( warbler) are you intending to insult me? I’m proud to be a blue collar working guy with values and ethics. I am professionally licensed through the state in my field. If you would like to discuss this man to man. I’m available. Name the time and place. If not back off the name calling. I have come up with things I CAN DO and I WILL DO. Nuff said.
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Originally posted by rednecknNow wait a minute there Bo ( warbler) are you intending to insult me? I’m proud to be a blue collar working guy with values and ethics. I am professionally licensed through the state in my field. If you would like to discuss this man to man. I’m available. Name the time and place. If not back off the name calling. I have come up with things I CAN DO and I WILL DO. Nuff said.
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What name did I call you, Redneckn? How is it insulting to talk about what you posted earlier, i.e., that one of your friends is an outlaw and that you know others who will keep everything they catch?
And, here’s some friendly advice: if you do, indeed, hold some type of professional license, you should avoid making threats on the internet. Licensing boards tend to frown on that.
The first rule of fight club is…
This entire thread is unfortunately becoming almost pathetic. What should be a hue and cry for saving the fishery has, unfortunately, mirrored most similar discussions by lowering objective independent thinking to the levels of finger-pointing, jib-jabbing, threats and inuendos.
And not to mention how proposing that one’s own casual observations while fishing should now become the basis for science…or questioning science. And yes…there is bad science, but by (**() this is the best science we have so let’s deal with it. I certainly respect everyone’s opinion, but I still prefer to trust the science of this vital fishery. I guess no one trusts anyone these days. Sad state of affairs. Even sadder is no matter what plan is formulated, it will take at minimum 2 years to get it past the good ole boys in Columbia.
Go ahead y’all…have at.
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Originally posted by wildlifescThis entire thread is unfortunately becoming almost pathetic. What should be a hue and cry for saving the fishery has, unfortunately, mirrored most similar discussions by lowering objective independent thinking to the levels of finger-pointing, jib-jabbing, threats and inuendos.
And not to mention how proposing that one’s own casual observations while fishing should now become the basis for science…or questioning science. And yes…there is bad science, but by (**() this is the best science we have so let’s deal with it. I certainly respect everyone’s opinion, but I still prefer to trust the science of this vital fishery. I guess no one trusts anyone these days. Sad state of affairs. Even sadder is no matter what plan is formulated, it will take at minimum 2 years to get it past the good ole boys in Columbia.
Go ahead y’all…have at.
Great post—totally agree.
The first rule of fight club is…
Sent an email myself to be included in the surveys…I personally think a tag system would be best…they do deer tags…why not fish tags…we as fisherman (and hunters) buy resident tags say 5 tags for 40$… Nonresidents can purchase single tags to use on chartered trips.25$ for 1 nonresident… All the proceeds should go directly towards the Waddell mariculture center to help fund their efforts in restoring the fishery… I know there will be renegades and I know not every deer shot is properly tagged…but the majority will follow the rules…in my household we would end up with 15 tags…now we have no need for even 5 fish let alone 15 but if the monies go where where it should I have no issue with the minor extra expense to avoid a fishery closure…
First off Bo( warbler) I have no buddies. I’ll be more than glad to explain why man to man. You ASSUME from my post I only have three friends? I’m a local. I will continue to speak to my friends about the issue. What are you doing other than running your trap on a forum? I take offense to your reference to my screen name. Check your pm’s. My REAL name and number are there. Swing by. I’ll be more than glad to introduce myself. I hide from no one and never will. I have talked to those I see doing wrong, and will continue to. Didn’t you put up a post about going seeking them yourself on the 17th? Put up or shut up!
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Originally posted by rednecknFirst off Bo( warbler) I have no buddies. I’ll be more than glad to explain why man to man. You ASSUME from my post I only have three friends? I’m a local. I will continue to speak to my friends about the issue. What are you doing other than running your trap on a forum? I take offense to your reference to my screen name. Check your pm’s. My REAL name and number are there. Swing by. I’ll be more than glad to introduce myself. I hide from no one and never will. I have talked to those I see doing wrong, and will continue to. Didn’t you put up a post about going seeking them yourself on the 17th? Put up or shut up!
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Redneckn,
If you don’t like what you reported on this forum about your outlaw friend and the “others” you talked to…2 out of 3 of whom will “keep what they caught”…then go back and delete your post.
As for your username being offensive to yourself, man, I feel bad for you…must be real hard on you every time you log in.
The first rule of fight club is…
People will be reading this thread as a source of information about cobia. Cut the crap and keep the bickering between yourselves in private message PLEASE. We don’t care about your BS. We care about positive information to help save/sustain a fishery. Thanks
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Completely agree. We’ll see if Redneck’n can behave himself and stop with the internet tough guy stuff.
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I sent my info name and phone number to warbler in a pm. I can not change others attitudes without at least giving them my honest opinion on the matter. I reported honest answers. This is 4people out of hundreds. I am willing to do my level best to try and rectify this situation. I will continue to do what I can and talk with as many people as I can, as will the others here trying to solve an issue. I apologize for my response to warbler if it offended anyone.
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As a participant in this thread from near the start ,I’m glad to see
a little calm starting to show. I’m a believer that the logic of many is most likely the answer to sensitive issues!!
How about the ones involved in this thread repost what they believe
to be the best solution to this issue, don’t piss in each others cereal bowl,just cast your vote in a short statement and lets see
how the opinions pan out!!!
My vote;;;; Establish upper slot size and boat limit, enforce that
ALL cobia (in/off shore) are game fish and cannot be sold.
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Are there any free tagging kits being offered? I’d be willing to tag a few to assist with data collection if that would be of any assistance.
The current law is illegal to sell recreationally or commercially caught fish in state waters. 33" minimum, 2 per person.
FL state law is 1 per person/day or 6 per vessel/day, whichever is less.
My vote for SC state waters:
37" minimum size limit 1 per person/day or 6 per vessel/day, whichever is less.
Boat limit or min. size limits offshore only if science points there. Science presented at the meeting and recapped in this thread seems to indicate the inshore stock and offshore stock are different.
Stop reading here if you are a federal government apologist.
Outlawing commercial catch of cobia in federal waters is infeasible (and would violate Magnuson-Stevens as “unfair” treatment of sectors). The SAFMC would have to do that. The only way to shut down commercial would be to shut us down along with em.
That is not warranted unless the science supports it. The science reported in this thread apparently has little to nothing to do with the offshore stock anyway according to some, although I suspect it ought to (see below).
Shut downs should be a last resort, and should never be done without good science. It’s not like it’s impossible to get better science. The state doesn’t have much funds, but the feds have plenty. They’re simply chosing to NOT spend on good assessment data like they used to in the 90’s. It isn’t because they aren’t getting that funding. It’s because they’re spending it on other things right now because they have indeed rebuilt most of the fisheries as they were tasked to do, BUT if they told Congress that, Congress would cut their funding. Everyone knows a bureaucratic agency is not going to cut it’s own funding. The feds would have plenty funds to get better assessments if they’d stop spending so much of their $ on catch shares and MPA propaganda.
Stop reading again if you don’t want my thoughts about how human manipulation of wild animal stocks will never go as planned. “Unintended consequences.”
Is it possible that th
I think a 37# minimum size and 1 per person, 5/boat sounds about right. I also think, based on what DNR has put out there, that the offshore population probably doesn’t need to be regulated any differently than it currently is. That makes enforcement a bit tricky, but doable.
All things being equal, I would rather be on the water.
My vote is 36" minimum size, 1 per person or 3 per boat.
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and that’s 37", not pounds obviously. oops.
All things being equal, I would rather be on the water.
Slot limit 33" - ?? with 1 trophy tag per angler per year. 2 per boat limit
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