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Originally posted by Fred67quote:
Originally posted by SCARCHER220quote:
Originally posted by Fred67quote:
Originally posted by SCARCHER220 [/i] [ really?? explain the sport aspect. Dogs run a deer by you and you shoot it?" It is what it is".</font id=“red”> right on, hunting deer with all methods are fun and sport.
I’ll go out on a limb and say you were not raised here or are very young and being raised by parents that are not from “around here”.
What would be neat is if we could be sitting side by side and I started telling you some stories about some dog drives! Wow. Way back in the day my father was a member on Big Survey Plantation. Never missed a deer and on one particular hunt my Dad killed 6 while everyone else missed. Those six were divided out among 18 hunters that day. Me, I’ve missed a bunch. It’s a hell of a sport to hit a deer in front of a dog. And it’s a hell of a sport to lure in a deer take a precision head shot using a brace, or go for old reliable and take a chest shot.
I just wish all dog hunters were respectful of other’s property. It’s one thing to get off property lines and quit another to release on someone else’s property line and/or stand the road on some one else’s property.
Searcher, if still had access to hunting with a good dog club that I could bring a guest, I’d love to be able to let you hunt one. I’t would be an eye opener,
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Originally posted by freedomfisherAll this over a modified billygoat. I remember the days before the steal hunter came around. Use to be you could hunt about anywhere. Hell we killed them to eat them. Now every tom dick and harry wants to be bill Jordan with there 1500 dollars zeiss scope and there 1000 dollar canon that can knock a tick off a cows ass at 500 yards. I use to dog drive and loved i. but the days of a good club are gone. Everyone is so greedy these days and thats the problem. Well that and whole lot of thin skins and ignorance. Just remember folks dogs can’t read.
</font id=“quote”></blockquote id=“quote”>assanine comments like this is why the sport is dwindling. Take reponsibility for their actions and respect other people’s property, etc.
" It is what it is".
How is that assanine? It pisses me off too to have random dogs running thru my property But being a dick about it solves nothing. Try having respect for something it sounds like you don’t understand. Call the folks tell them to come pick up there dogs. Try being nice. It will get you a long way with dog drivers. However pissing them off will only bring more hell down upon you. Alot off those rednecks have nothing better to do but cause you misery.
quote:That kind of behavior just adds fuel to the fire and aligns people against dog hunters.
Originally posted by freedomfisher However pissing them off will only bring more hell down upon you. Alot off those rednecks have nothing better to do but cause you misery.
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Originally posted by pitviper0404quote:
Originally posted by ReelHunterSO to eliminate baiting, pitviper, you say no food plots? Ignorant.
SO the fact I spend thousands every year to provide food plots to ALL wildlife on my property is baiting? I raise 15 deer for every 1 we harvest. Should I not be allowed to grow a larger and healthier heard of deer, turkey, etc when all around me cutting of natural habitat (i.e. hardwoods replanted in pines and then sprayed to allow zero undergrowth)is going on to provide lumber for more urban sprawl to take away more native habitat. That’s a special kind of thinking right there sir!!!
Not saying eliminate foodplots, saying if we eliminate dog hunting, we should stop allowing people like you to sit over a food source… besides, if dog hunting is eliminated, there is no way in hell Still hunters will be able to keep up with the deer population that is steadily growing.
As for you calling me ignorant, I’m sure in this situation, that’s like the pot calling the kettle black…A bad day fishing is much better than a good day at work.
Steadily growing, huh? Where exactly did you get that information? I ask because Charles Ruth, the state’s lead deer and turkey biologist, surely hasn’t passed that intel along. In fact, certain game zones have actually reduced daily limits on does…which we all know are the key to the size of our deer herd. In Lee County, you used to be able to kill two does per day but this year that was changed to one. The number of either sex days was cut in half. These are hardly signs of a “steadily growing” deer herd.
Deer population info
http://www.xtremewhitetailhunting.com/south-carolina-reduces-limits-for-deer-hunting-season/
http://www.365whitetail.com/predators-coyotes-and-whitetail-fawn-recruitment/
In everything I read SC deer populations are down
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Originally posted by Edistodanielquote:That kind of behavior just adds fuel to the fire and aligns people against dog hunters.
Originally posted by freedomfisher However pissing them off will only bring more hell down upon you. Alot off those rednecks have nothing better to do but cause you misery.
Am I lieing tho? When you turn loose a pack of 50 to a 100 dogs it’s not always possible to keep them in a particular block. Now those who purposely turn loose on another mans property is trespassing, and thats worth getting your panties in a wad over. But give the man a break.
The man tying to be legal that is.
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Originally posted by SCARCHER220I probably know as mush or more about than you or the avearge person there cheesepuff. Been dealing with it all my life.
“Cheesepuff” … Your funny! Had some this weekend babysitting my Granddaughter.
And I’m not average. 
If you know more about deer hunting or have killed more deer than me, hats off. You’d be farm from average.
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Originally posted by freedomfisherHow is that assanine? It pisses me off too to have random dogs running thru my property But being a dick about it solves nothing. Try having respect for something it sounds like you don’t understand. Call the folks tell them to come pick up there dogs. Try being nice. It will get you a long way with dog drivers. However pissing them off will only bring more hell down upon you. Alot off those rednecks have nothing better to do but cause you misery.
Dogs can’t read??? dumbest comment ever. I am pretty sure everyone knows this already…I understand it well my friend. Most doggers don’t want to or cannot lease land, plant plots to hold deer, erect feeders, etc. They just want to reap your benefits for the most part.
" It is what it is".
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Originally posted by Fred67quote:
Originally posted by SCARCHER220I probably know as mush or more about than you or the avearge person there cheesepuff. Been dealing with it all my life.
“Cheesepuff” … Your funny! Had some this weekend babysitting my Granddaughter.
And I’m not average.
relax fred… just ruffling your feathers. Still laughing at your " i’m not from here, parents not from here and telling me some stories about dog hunting… it’s all good.
I have had some very bad experiences with this in the past ( when I was younger and foolish) and have no use for it.
" It is what it is".
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Originally posted by freedomfisherquote:
Originally posted by Edistodanielquote:That kind of behavior just adds fuel to the fire and aligns people against dog hunters.
Originally posted by freedomfisher However pissing them off will only bring more hell down upon you. Alot off those rednecks have nothing better to do but cause you misery.
Am I lieing tho? When you turn loose a pack of 50 to a 100 dogs it’s not always possible to keep them in a particular block. Now those who purposely turn loose on another mans property is trespassing, and thats worth getting your panties in a wad over. But give the man a break.
if you have 100 dogs and less then a couple thousand acres… no way in hell you are “trying to be legal”. Not happening. Those dogs will be in the next county in an hour or so.
" It is what it is".
I see there’s no reasoning with a closed mind. You hate all doggers and posting a topic about it is gonna change it. The only reason your bringing it up is because your bored and want to ruffle some feathers. But like you say " it is what it is"
quote:Cracker, I am beginning to think that you and I agree on just about everything (minus the issue of floating fish). You are an alright dude in my book...
Originally posted by Cracker Larryquote:
Ha, just a thought, how lame would rabbit hunting and coon hunting be without dogs?
I suspect you’d be a hungry pilgrim. More effective to use a trap, but not nearly as much fun as dogs. Rabbits are even harder to hit than deer. I like night time coon hunting with dogs, I sit by the fire BSing with the other oldsters and listen to the dogs run, while the younguns traipse through the swamps after them. That’s good hunting right there
Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose
quote:That's 100% pure grade A horse ****... Do you know most doggers?
Originally posted by SCARCHER220Most doggers don’t want to or cannot lease land, plant plots to hold deer, erect feeders, etc. They just want to reap your benefits for the most part.
" It is what it is".
How would you ever expect to reason by making comments like dogs can’t read… That is an excuse to be stupid and not take responsibility for your actions. Reasononing with me on this topic went out the window years ago. I don’t hate anyone. Problem is: you know I am right. Been there, done that kiddo, all the way up to the head of DNR, who by the way, did nothing either…
tell me fisher how you can your intentions be good when you turn 50 to 100 ( quoted by you ) dogs loose on a coupld hundred acres or less. You know you cannot. That is when the **** starts. Let’s say I spend 5000 a year on lease, feed and plots. I drive an hour to said property. I work a job so I can only hunt when taking vacation or through an entire weekend occasionally. I get up at 4 am and go to the stand only to be run all over at the crack of daylight by the guys you described. Am I pissed? Uh, hell yes. Would you be?? Absolutely. No matter what you say, you get “dogs can’t read”, Sorry man or something lame like that… or cursed out by some smart mouthed kid who’s family has been doing this for years. The “renegades” as they are called. So I am supposed to tuck my tail and leave them be???
So then you say: When you turn loose a pack of 50 to a 100 dogs it’s not always possible to keep them in a particular block. If that is the case, then don’t turn them out. Saying i’m sorry in the situation I just described is far from o.k. Dog hunting in the capacity I just described is the most lazy, most pathetic method of hunting that has ever existed…
" It is what it is".
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Originally posted by skinneejquote:That's 100% pure grade A horse ****... Do you know most doggers?
Originally posted by SCARCHER220Most doggers don’t want to or cannot lease land, plant plots to hold deer, erect feeders, etc. They just want to reap your benefits for the most part.
" It is what it is".
Maybe I should say most doggers I have come in contact with…
don’t hunt much do you skinee?
" It is what it is".
quote:As mentioned in the thread, I grew up hunting deer. My dad's run the same deer club for 40+ years. He still runs it. I can go there any time I want. Deer hunting just doesn't get my blood going as much as fishing or wing shooting. I can't help it that I killed too many and I lost interest in it. I like to shoot birds. Don't think I don't know anything about dog hunting though. I've been on hundreds of dog drives. My dad's club did it up until about 10 years ago and converted over to still hunting.
Originally posted by SCARCHER220quote:
Originally posted by skinneejquote:That's 100% pure grade A horse ****... Do you know most doggers?
Originally posted by SCARCHER220Most doggers don’t want to or cannot lease land, plant plots to hold deer, erect feeders, etc. They just want to reap your benefits for the most part.
" It is what it is".
Maybe I should say most doggers I have come in contact with…
don’t hunt much do you skinee?
" It is what it is".
But the thing that I understand better than you is that everyone thinks that “their” way is the right way, and refuse to think outside of that box. I don’t limit myself to such primitive thought. I like to appreciate the old saying, “different strokes for different folks”. If I had a choice between sitting on a good dog hunt and feeling the adrenaline rush of a pack of yelping dogs come my way, or sitting in a stand
In your eyes you are correct. I understand where you stand and I can’t blame your disgust. My views on hunting are different and I can respect that. To me it’s about family friends and getting the kids out there. And I can’t stand against someones right to that. Especially over a flee riden modified billy goat. I no longer dog drive and the reasons are for losing leases to richer still hunter who in my opinion are on there way to ruining another sport along with duck hunting and other traditions that i once loved. But hey that’s the way it goes in this world. I just wait my turn until after deer season so I can turn my walkers loose. Doing the only thing I have left, which is raccoon hunting.
Oh yeah, before we talk about the “proper” way to hunt… Just a few pictures of some dog hunts:
Just saying…