hunting with dogs

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Originally posted by SCARCHER220
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Originally posted by freedomfisher

Where you around in the 90s? Must not have because before the massive implosion of duck Impoundments you could kill ducks. I dare you to go hunting now and kill big ducks if there not shooting the impoundment. You might kill a woodie. Yet if I dig a ditch and fill it with corn they want to carry me to jail. Big money has ruined duck hunting.


haha…I was around. I used to sleep in the boat for MIGRANT big ducks. We have few of these now due to the urban development of the flyway… They simply don’t come this far down anymore.

" It is what it is".


Not to beat a dead horse here. But have you ever thought why they don’t come down as far? Maybe because there getting short stayed by northern impoundments? That’s my educated conclusion.

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If I owned property and went through all i have.... I would be writing this from prison

This past weekend a fool in our county (Effingham, GA) was still hunting on a small private club with a crossbow and shot 2 black labs, who he said were bothering his hunt on private property :face_with_head_bandage: They belonged to a neighbor and were children’s pets. One is dead, one is still barely alive, the fool is still in jail. Which is probably the safest place he could be right now. If they were mine, he might not even be safe in there.

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose

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Originally posted by Cracker Larry
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If I owned property and went through all i have.... I would be writing this from prison

This past weekend a fool in our county (Effingham, GA) was still hunting on a small private club with a crossbow and shot 2 black labs, who he said were bothering his hunt on private property :face_with_head_bandage: They belonged to a neighbor and were children’s pets. One is dead, one is still barely alive, the fool is still in jail. Which is probably the safest place he could be right now. If they were mine, he might not even be safe in there.

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose


Perfect example of pricks in deer stands... Anyone who would shoot a dog because it messes up "their" deer hunt is a douche bag of the highest caliber.
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Originally posted by SCARCHER220
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Originally posted by archer

Sadly, beagles are easier to “keep in bounds” than the rogues are.

Where I hunt (Still hunt), our property borders a dog club (separated by a small river). One several occasions, we’ve had to stop our hunt because there were dogs running all around us and under our stands. Most times, the dogs have collars so we “do the right thing” and contact the owner. EVERY TIME they come to pick up their dog, we never so much as get a “thank you” or an apology. We’re not looking for a reward but some sign of gratitude would be nice. Hell, one time we were headed back to the club house with a dog we just caught and were met…WELL ON OUR PROPERTY…by the dog’s owner. Our land is CLEARLY posted but this guy, knowing current regs don’t hold him responsible, drives right through one of our gates and on to our property without permission. We asked him what he was doing on our property and he simply said “I’m catching up my dogs.” We asked if the one we caught was his and he said “yep.” We set the dog on the ground and it just sat down. The guy walked over, grabbed the dog up by the scruff of his neck, tossed him into the dog box on his truck, got in the truck…turned around and drove off. I was too busy being stunned by this guy’s lack of respect and lack of gratitude to even get pissed. Next time, he’ll be picking his dog(s) up from the pound. He’s d@mn lucky we don’t believe in the “3 S method.” I guess we have more respect for the dogs than he does for us.

Earn it everyday…


that is what I am referring to… assholes

" It is what it is".


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At least I guess I can take comfort in knowing I’m not the only one having this problem.If I was a dog hunter and did it the right way,I’d be pissed that these renegade clubs are ruining it for all dog hunters.Again, I use Bluefield Hunting club in Jacksonboro as the way a dog club should be run.They hunt on a large tract of land and do not infringe on their neighbors and if they somehow did I guarantee one of the Tuten’s would apologize in person.The club adjoining our property at the other end of the county drove up on us 3 times in the last 2 while we were in stands.When confronted they claim they were just looking for their dogs even though they had a pickup load of guys with shotguns.When we put a gate up they got pissed and laughingly put up a voodoo doll on a tree outside our property.We got the last laugh though cause we’ve killed the biggest deer we’ve ever killed on our property since then.

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Originally posted by jerb

backlash are you a S.C. native?


Probably not!, most people that tend to do all the *****ing are 9 times out of ten a implant yankee trying to change our ways of doing things. Still don’t get it why people want to move here, complain, *****, moan, say things are stupid, change laws etc… Yes people could hunt with dogs a little more responsible but that goes with everything. Trend these days seems to be when someone or group don’t like something ***** enough and change a law. F’ That! Sometimes things are what they are… Yes, I do like still hunting better, but have been runnin dogs around here forever and is always a blast.

191 Bay Scout

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Originally posted by skinneej

Yeah, we need to change the laws, because there are no more deer left in the lowcountry!!!

Well Said!

Uhhhhhhh…

I’ve done both… My dad used to change my diapers on dog drives. He’s been running the same club for 40+ years, and was a member before that… I don’t think sitting in a tree is any more “sporting” than running a deer with a pack of dogs. I mean honestly guys, is it that much more sporting to pick off a deer on a power-line that’s anywhere from right under your stand out to 400 yards? Also, I don’t think any is more productive. If anything, still hunting is probably more productive. Heck, I bet more deer are actually missed in front of a dog with a shotgun than with a scoped rifle. You guys should be glad that dog hunters run their deer off of their property where they can take up refuge on your still hunting land.

There are always a few assholes that are going to break the rules and take advantage of everyone, but dog hunting is a tradition that I would be sad to see go. I think it’s easy to cast stones if you never dog hunted and you were introduced to hunting in a tree stand. Just like it’s easy for fly fishermen to hate guys who use live bait, and bow hunters to hate people who use a rifle. Everyone has their opinion on stuff and that’s just what they are, opinions. If a practice is sustainable, then as sportsman you should support it. You never know when someone is going to point the finger back at you. Just imagine all of the PETA assholes that want you to quit hunting. Do you really need to knock off each other?


191 Bay Scout

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Originally posted by skinneej
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Originally posted by SCARCHER220
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Originally posted by archer

Sadly, beagles are easier to “keep in bounds” than the rogues are.

Where I hunt (Still hunt), our property borders a dog club (separated by a small river). One several occasions, we’ve had to stop our hunt because there were dogs running all around us and under our stands. Most times, the dogs have collars so we “do the right thing” and contact the owner. EVERY TIME they come to pick up their dog, we never so much as get a “thank you” or an apology. We’re not looking for a reward but some sign of gratitude would be nice. Hell, one time we were headed back to the club house with a dog we just caught and were met…WELL ON OUR PROPERTY…by the dog’s owner. Our land is CLEARLY posted but this guy, knowing current regs don’t hold him responsible, drives right through one of our gates and on to our property without permission. We asked him what he was doing on our property and he simply said “I’m catching up my dogs.” We asked if the one we caught was his and he said “yep.” We set the dog on the ground and it just sat down. The guy walked over, grabbed the dog up by the scruff of his neck, tossed him into the dog box on his truck, got in the truck…turned around and drove off. I was too busy being stunned by this guy’s lack of respect and lack of gratitude to even get pissed. Next time, he’ll be picking his dog(s) up from the pound. He’s d@mn lucky we don’t believe in the “3 S method.” I guess we have more respect for the dogs than he does for us.

Earn it everyday…


Archer
Could not have said it better myself.

Hunting, fishing, and poker are my sports. Work when necessary.

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Originally posted by archer

I don’t lock my door when I’m sitting around my house, aside from when I go to bed, so why should my posted property be any different?


For starters, you have problems with people coming through your gates. Sounds like a no-brainer to me... Just a hint... If unwanted persons start to come through your front door at home during the day, you may want to lock that too...

Why would you go through the effort to get out of your truck, walk across the road, swing that heavy gate all the way back to the “shut” position, and standing right there, 12 inches from the lock, decide NOT to lock it? You already did the hard part… Maybe you love dog hunters driving up and down your roads. That’s what I think.

I can’t wait until next week when you guys complain about other still hunters that only own 10 acres of land next to your 100 acre tract and you are pissed because they are pulling your deer to their corn pile…

They do that now. I may not like it but they are on their property and legal.
I have hunters parked on my PL all the time. I am not happy, but you have never seen me post an objection or said that they did not have the right to do it.
Skinnee. It is very simple. keep your dogs on your property and none of us cares how many deer you shoot. we don’t care if you use hand grenades. Just stay the xxxx on your property.

Hunting, fishing, and poker are my sports. Work when necessary.

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Originally posted by Partners-Ship

They do that now. I may not like it but they are on their property and legal.
I have hunters parked on my PL all the time. I am not happy, but you have never seen me post an objection or said that they did not have the right to do it.
Skinnee. It is very simple. keep your dogs on your property and none of us cares how many deer you shoot. we don’t care if you use hand grenades. Just stay the xxxx on your property.

Hunting, fishing, and poker are my sports. Work when necessary.


I don't have deer hunting dogs.
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Originally posted by skinneej
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Originally posted by archer

I don’t lock my door when I’m sitting around my house, aside from when I go to bed, so why should my posted property be any different?


For starters, you have problems with people coming through your gates. Sounds like a no-brainer to me... Just a hint... If unwanted persons start to come through your front door at home during the day, you may want to lock that too...

Why would you go through the effort to get out of your truck, walk across the road, swing that heavy gate all the way back to the “shut” position, and standing right there, 12 inches from the lock, decide NOT to lock it? You already did the hard part… Maybe you love dog hunters driving up and down your roads. That’s what I think.


I’m glad you were there to know what our problems are. No wait, you weren’t there. That’s why you sound so cluesless and desparate here. I don’t have a problem with people coming through my gates. I only mentioned one time where someone actually came through a gate. Dogs coming on to our property, now that’s a different story. Just a hint, closed and/or locked gates won’t stop a dog from coming on to our property. That’s a “no brainer.”

If unwanted persons start to come through my front door at my home while I’m there, their problems have just started. Sadly, I have more of a leg to stand on when it come to keeping “unwanted persons” out of my house than I do when it comes to keeping “unwanted persons” and their dogs off of my property.

The question still remians, why should I have to lock my gates, to our POSTED property, behind

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Originally posted by archer

One would think that would be enough to keep “unwated persons” off of our property


But you explicitly said it wasn't enough... Again, a no brainer... If my closed door won't keep criminals out of my house, then I need to lock it. How much simpler can this explanation get? I'm not sure why I have to repeat the answer. Should I type louder?
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Originally posted by archer

Hell, one time we were headed back to the club house with a dog we just caught and were met…WELL ON OUR PROPERTY…by the dog’s owner. Our land is CLEARLY posted but this guy, knowing current regs don’t hold him responsible, drives right through one of our gates and on to our property without permission. We asked him what he was doing on our property and he simply said “I’m catching up my dogs.”


Just for your reference, since you clearly had a head injury and forgot you posted this. Next time wear a helmet.
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Originally posted by archer

but I appareciate your feeble attempt to swing the blame on to the responsible property owner and not those truly at fault. Typical…


That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard... I never said it was your fault. I said to lock your gate. Locking your gate is "insurance". If you lost your house in a fire and I told you that fire insurance would have minimized your losses, you would turn around and tell me that I am blaming you for the fire... Then you would tell me, "Why should I buy fire insurance? I have a sign POSTED on my house that says, "no fires!"... Typical...
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You are missing the point with you skinee.. All you speak of was in A CLUB...... The ones I speak of are the moronic ones that have no club or lease or rules.

There are a lot more than you think. The traditions have eroded to what we have today unfortunately and will NEVER be the same.

It is very hard to rid yourself of these guys actually. Once they know they are pissing you off or kill a nice buck, you are in for hell.

bigger pricks in tree stands?? please explain that one.

" It is what it is".


I'm not missing any points... Poachers exist everywhere. There are plenty of still hunters out there as well that would gladly sneak into your place when you are not there and kill a deer. Does that mean that we need to eliminate the "sport" of still hunting?

Seems like you are failing to separate the notion of “dog hunters” and “poachers who happen to run dogs”. There are plenty of legitimate dog clubs out there. But you want to kill those off too because of a few renegades on your side of town.

I don’t lock my gates, or even shut them. If anyone needs to come in to catch up with their dogs it’s OK with me. Some of yall take these overpopulated, tick infested, modified billy goats (to quote somebody) way too seriously :smiley:

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose

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I'm not missing any points... Poachers exist everywhere. There are plenty of still hunters out there as well that would gladly sneak into your place when you are not there and kill a deer. Does that mean that we need to eliminate the "sport" of still hunting?

Seems like you are failing to separate the notion of “dog hunters” and “poachers who happen to run dogs”. There are plenty of legitimate dog clubs out there. But you want to kill those off too because of a few renegades on your side of town.


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Well put and the solid truth.

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose