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Originally posted by SCARCHER220
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Originally posted by skinneej
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Originally posted by archer

LOL!! Nah, I’m not one of “those guys.”

Look man, like I already said on this issue and at countless DNR meeting pertaining to dog hunting, I’m all for any legal means of hunting that is done safely, responsibly,and within the bounds of the law. I’ve been on dog hunts with people that “do it right.” It’s not my thing, nothing more nothing less. Responsible dog hunters’ worst enemy are the “rogues.” Fact of the matter is rogue dog hunters are the ones that will result in dog hunting becoming a thing of the past. Rogues will have all dog hunters talking about “remember when we used to be able to run dogs.” No other group, individual, political party, or religious organization is doing more damage to and shortening the life span of dog hunting more than rogues, period.

I wish all dog hunters faught as hard to tighten their own ranks as they do fighting still hunters asking for dogs to be kept off of their property. Maybe then the outcome wouldn’t look so gloom. As it is, I feel it’s too little too late.

Earn it everyday…

archer, this is actually finally a quality post from you. I couldn't agree more with this statement. My purpose here is really more pointed towards the SCARCHER220's of the world, who would love nothing more that to see all dog hunting die off since "all dog hunters are the same". Well, that, and to see who leaves their gates unlocked...

Yo

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Originally posted by skinneej
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Originally posted by SCARCHER220
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Originally posted by skinneej
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Originally posted by SCARCHER220

I can tell you have had your experience through clubs and not on private property.

That is definitely true. Is killing a deer on private property somehow different than a club? I bet the club I hunt on has been around longer than you have owned your property.

what I am saying is: doggers on a “dog club” tend to be more reasonable than the renegades who have no lease… Why is that so hard for you to understand???

" It is what it is".

Hard to understand because of your ambiguity maybe? You did say this:

“Dog hunters are dog hunters… plain and simple. Doesn’t matter if you are in a CLUB and stay there or dump on someone else’s property. You are still a dog hunter”

In any language, that paints the picture that you are stereotyping… Is it just that you don’t understand yourself maybe?

Let’s be honest. You are a bow hunter. You could give a rat’s ass about dog hunting. If you got news today that all dog hunting was abolished, you would probably be pitching a tent in your pants. Then, you realize, "Hey, I better try to make it seem like I care about other forms of hunting, or people will realize that I

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Originally posted by skinneej
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Originally posted by SCARCHER220
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Originally posted by skinneej
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Originally posted by archer

LOL!! Nah, I’m not one of “those guys.”

Look man, like I already said on this issue and at countless DNR meeting pertaining to dog hunting, I’m all for any legal means of hunting that is done safely, responsibly,and within the bounds of the law. I’ve been on dog hunts with people that “do it right.” It’s not my thing, nothing more nothing less. Responsible dog hunters’ worst enemy are the “rogues.” Fact of the matter is rogue dog hunters are the ones that will result in dog hunting becoming a thing of the past. Rogues will have all dog hunters talking about “remember when we used to be able to run dogs.” No other group, individual, political party, or religious organization is doing more damage to and shortening the life span of dog hunting more than rogues, period.

I wish all dog hunters faught as hard to tighten their own ranks as they do fighting still hunters asking for dogs to be kept off of their property. Maybe then the outcome wouldn’t look so gloom. As it is, I feel it’s too little too late.

Earn it everyday…

archer, this is actually finally a quality post from you. I couldn't agree more with this statement. My purpose here is really more pointed towards the SCARCHER220's of the world, who would love nothing more that to see all dog hunting die off since "all dog
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dude if you lease > 4000 acres and cannot keep your ****eaters on it, then you are part of the problem.

SO because some people can afford to own land, they are fragmenting your leased dog club property?? You are ridiculous bud.

obviously there are more jerk offs than you will acknowledge running dogs because your dad lost his lease of 40 years.

" It is what it is".

My dad did not lose his lease. I clearly explained that...

I didn’t say that you were fragmenting my dog club. I said that you were fragmenting the woods. Just don’t buy your tiny little tract next to my club. Why on Earth would you purchase land next to a huge dog club? You must be a glutton for punishment!!! Land next to the prison is super cheap, but I’m not building a house there in case one of the inmates escapes.

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Originally posted by SCARCHER220

there are no charades or bandwagons here my friend… I have been in fist fights with the bad eggs, I have had good experiences with a “dog club” of older gentlemen who cared about others property. If dog hunting stays: I don’t give a ****… If it goes: I don’t give a ****…

a walker stumbling on my property… That’s classic… If that happened and you came over and said I’m sorry can I get my dogs? We would have a discussion and that would be the end of, i hope. But when you drive or walk into my property and i ask what you are doing an you what business is it of yours or something idiotic ( because you already know you are breaking the law), then we have a problem .

Let's get this out of the way in advance... Some of my dogs are on your land next Saturday from 7am to 1pm. Do you mind if I come and get them? Thanks in advance!
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You two love birds need to get a room…

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Skinny-Dog club has been in existance for 50 years having a lease of lets say 1500 acres, it butts up to a 500 acre piece of property for sale. A yankee buys that 500 acre piece, builds a house, puts up gates and locks and expects to have peace and quiet. Every Saturday during deer season he finds the neighboring dog clubs animals on his property, what LEGAL recourse does he have under current S.C. law? Have loved following this, tempers have flared and cooled off, somewhat. The problem has been and continues to be trespassing dogs. Doesn’t matter if a non dog hunter owns 1 acre or 10,000 acres he should not have to continually deal with a problem that he didn’t create and that DNR doesn’t want to deal with. A dog hunting ban isn’t anywhere in the near future people, politics will not allow that to happen. That is why MEANINGFUL regulations need to be put in place to hold people accountable for infringement issues related to property rights. The dog people need to realize this and get on board.

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Originally posted by SCARCHER220
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Originally posted by skinneej
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Originally posted by SCARCHER220

I meant more so still hunting. Sounds as if even when you did get enjoyment out of hunting deer, you either didn’t still hunt much or was lucky enough to not encounter the bad side of dog hunting. Me, on the other hand, hunted areas thick with it ( and mostly bad ) up until 10 or so years ago. I also mentioned I have had pleasurable experiences with dog “clubs” as well. The clubs tend to make a reasonable effort to stay respectful.

I am the exact opposite. I would dig a hole and cover it up, over and over, before I went on a dog drive. Done it several times, and successfully I might add, but not my cup of tea.

I don’t think my way is any better… when did I say that? I do my thing and I don’t bother anyone. I would rather see someone else kill than myself. I do eat the meat but I also give a lot away. Jalapeno and cheddar snack sticks tend to be a hit with most folks.

Personally, I can sit hrs without even hearing anything. I agree with different strokes for different folks… the problem is sometimes the strokes aren’t welcome ones. :smiley:

" It is what it is".

I've killed most of my deer still hunting. Again, I'm not one of those guys who didn't start hunting until later in life. I grew up doing it. We dog hunted in the AM and still hunted in the afternoon. It was an all day event.

I will agree that there are some renegades out there that give everyone a bad name. But, I am not about to throw out the baby with the ba

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Originally posted by skinneej
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Originally posted by SCARCHER220

there are no charades or bandwagons here my friend… I have been in fist fights with the bad eggs, I have had good experiences with a “dog club” of older gentlemen who cared about others property. If dog hunting stays: I don’t give a ****… If it goes: I don’t give a ****…

a walker stumbling on my property… That’s classic… If that happened and you came over and said I’m sorry can I get my dogs? We would have a discussion and that would be the end of, i hope. But when you drive or walk into my property and i ask what you are doing an you what business is it of yours or something idiotic ( because you already know you are breaking the law), then we have a problem .

Let's get this out of the way in advance... Some of my dogs are on your land next Saturday from 7am to 1pm. Do you mind if I come and get them? Thanks in advance!

How nice of you to ask. I will be there to assist you any way I can.

" It is what it is".

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Originally posted by pitviper0404
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Originally posted by SCARCHER220
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Originally posted by skinneej
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Originally posted by SCARCHER220

I meant more so still hunting. Sounds as if even when you did get enjoyment out of hunting deer, you either didn’t still hunt much or was lucky enough to not encounter the bad side of dog hunting. Me, on the other hand, hunted areas thick with it ( and mostly bad ) up until 10 or so years ago. I also mentioned I have had pleasurable experiences with dog “clubs” as well. The clubs tend to make a reasonable effort to stay respectful.

I am the exact opposite. I would dig a hole and cover it up, over and over, before I went on a dog drive. Done it several times, and successfully I might add, but not my cup of tea.

I don’t think my way is any better… when did I say that? I do my thing and I don’t bother anyone. I would rather see someone else kill than myself. I do eat the meat but I also give a lot away. Jalapeno and cheddar snack sticks tend to be a hit with most folks.

Personally, I can sit hrs without even hearing anything. I agree with different strokes for different folks… the problem is sometimes the strokes aren’t welcome ones. :smiley:

" It is what it is".

I've killed most of my deer still hunting. Again, I'm not one of those guys who didn't start hunting until later in life. I grew up doing it. We dog hunted in the AM and still hunted in the afternoo
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Originally posted by salty849

You two love birds need to get a room…

you need to mind your own business:wink:

" It is what it is".

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Originally posted by skinneej
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dude if you lease > 4000 acres and cannot keep your ****eaters on it, then you are part of the problem.

SO because some people can afford to own land, they are fragmenting your leased dog club property?? You are ridiculous bud.

obviously there are more jerk offs than you will acknowledge running dogs because your dad lost his lease of 40 years.

" It is what it is".

My dad did not lose his lease. I clearly explained that...

I didn’t say that you were fragmenting my dog club. I said that you were fragmenting the woods. Just don’t buy your tiny little tract next to my club. Why on Earth would you purchase land next to a huge dog club? You must be a glutton for punishment!!! Land next to the prison is super cheap, but I’m not building a house there in case one of the inmates escapes.

You are worrying me skinee… did you take your meds this week? I am not anywhere close to dog clubs.

Here is my take guys: I don’t care for dog hunting deer. I have done it and it does nothing for me. I have had countless altercations in several counties with NO help from DNR. I stay away from dog hunters on purpose.

I have two words for the dog hunters with no lease /CLUB… and they ain’t happy birthday.

Get it??

" It is what it is".

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Do you hate all dogs or just deer dogs on general? Where you bit as a kid or are you the mailman?

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Originally posted by longbearded1

Skinny-Dog club has been in existance for 50 years having a lease of lets say 1500 acres, it butts up to a 500 acre piece of property for sale. A yankee buys that 500 acre piece, builds a house, puts up gates and locks and expects to have peace and quiet. Every Saturday during deer season he finds the neighboring dog clubs animals on his property, what LEGAL recourse does he have under current S.C. law? Have loved following this, tempers have flared and cooled off, somewhat. The problem has been and continues to be trespassing dogs. Doesn’t matter if a non dog hunter owns 1 acre or 10,000 acres he should not have to continually deal with a problem that he didn’t create and that DNR doesn’t want to deal with. A dog hunting ban isn’t anywhere in the near future people, politics will not allow that to happen. That is why MEANINGFUL regulations need to be put in place to hold people accountable for infringement issues related to property rights. The dog people need to realize this and get on board.

Longbeard1, I am not saying that there should't be any regulation. I'm am always for *reasonable* regulations. Maybe a fine when dogs cross borders. And maybe a fine for the Yankee every time he mentions the New England Patriots. And, I don't think it's okay for someone to have their rights infringed upon. The argument that I have made this entire time is to not throw out the baby with the bathwater. It's way too common for selfishness to prevail in these scenarios. People, tend to blame their lack of hunting or fishing success on their neighbor and jump on the "I hunt the right way and everyone else needs to be banned" bandwagon. This is very destructive. There are MILLIONS of people out there that HATE hunting and would love nothing more than to see all deer hunting be
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Originally posted by SCARCHER220

You are worrying me skinee… did you take your meds this week? I am not anywhere close to dog clubs.

Here is my take guys: I don’t care for dog hunting deer. I have done it and it does nothing for me. I have had countless altercations in several counties with NO help from DNR. I stay away from dog hunters on purpose.

I have two words for the dog hunters with no lease /CLUB… and they ain’t happy birthday.

Get it??

" It is what it is".

I need to take MY medications? You say you are "not anywhere close to dog clubs", yet you keep having "countless altercations in several counties"... So, that can only mean that you are driving all over the state looking for dog clubs to have altercations with, since they are obviously not close to your land...

You aren’t making a whole lot of sense… Let me guess… That’s my fault too, right?

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Originally posted by skinneej
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Originally posted by longbearded1

Skinny-Dog club has been in existance for 50 years having a lease of lets say 1500 acres, it butts up to a 500 acre piece of property for sale. A yankee buys that 500 acre piece, builds a house, puts up gates and locks and expects to have peace and quiet. Every Saturday during deer season he finds the neighboring dog clubs animals on his property, what LEGAL recourse does he have under current S.C. law? Have loved following this, tempers have flared and cooled off, somewhat. The problem has been and continues to be trespassing dogs. Doesn’t matter if a non dog hunter owns 1 acre or 10,000 acres he should not have to continually deal with a problem that he didn’t create and that DNR doesn’t want to deal with. A dog hunting ban isn’t anywhere in the near future people, politics will not allow that to happen. That is why MEANINGFUL regulations need to be put in place to hold people accountable for infringement issues related to property rights. The dog people need to realize this and get on board.

Longbeard1, I am not saying that there should't be any regulation. I'm am always for *reasonable* regulations. Maybe a fine when dogs cross borders. And maybe a fine for the Yankee every time he mentions the New England Patriots. And, I don't think it's okay for someone to have their rights infringed upon. The argument that I have made this entire time is to not throw out the baby with the bathwater. It's way too common for selfishness to prevail in these scenarios. People, tend to blame their lack of hunting or fishing success on their neighbor and jump on the "I hunt the right way and everyone else needs to b
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Originally posted by freedomfisher

You hit the nail on the head that time sir.

It was the fine on the Yankee talking about "his PATS", wasn't it? :smiley:
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Originally posted by freedomfisher

Do you hate all dogs or just deer dogs on general? Where you bit as a kid or are you the mailman?

I love dogs… I have a boykin and a lab. have had them my entire life. I will say again: I don’t hate anyone else either.

" It is what it is".

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Originally posted by skinneej
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Originally posted by SCARCHER220

You are worrying me skinee… did you take your meds this week? I am not anywhere close to dog clubs.

Here is my take guys: I don’t care for dog hunting deer. I have done it and it does nothing for me. I have had countless altercations in several counties with NO help from DNR. I stay away from dog hunters on purpose.

I have two words for the dog hunters with no lease /CLUB… and they ain’t happy birthday.

Get it??

" It is what it is".

I need to take MY medications? You say you are "not anywhere close to dog clubs", yet you keep having "countless altercations in several counties"... So, that can only mean that you are driving all over the state looking for dog clubs to have altercations with, since they are obviously not close to your land...

You aren’t making a whole lot of sense… Let me guess… That’s my fault too, right?

In the past… for the 5th or 6th time. I do not hunt around them anymore.

" It is what it is".

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this has been fun d’bags…

You guys Have a Merry Christmas… We’ll pick this back up Jan 5th…

" It is what it is".