quote:Have you read ANYTHING that I have written during this discussion? I clearly stated that the law was broken and that the fine was paid, the time was done. I have no problem with the law or the enforcement of it. The only part I take issue with is this fictitious claim that he is "stealing from other's livelihood". We all know that is a stretch of the imagination. And yes, if Fritz got caught without his captain's license on board and got a ticket because of it, I would certainly be the first one to step in and say that he wasn't "stealing from other's livelihoods". It's a silly argument. I call out silly arguments.
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Originally posted by skinneejJust for the record, I actually like Fritz and would offer the same defense for him if that was the case.
Since you like Fritz and he did something illegal, you’d defend him? Even though he was in the wrong? come on skinny, even you have to admit defeat once in a while.
“If Bruce Jenner can keep his wiener and be called a woman, I can keep my firearms and be considered disarmed.”
So the Capt was not Sellsfish?
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If and I say if, he was undercutting legal guides, he was stealing from them! Sometimes I just don’t know how your mind works![:0] At the very least, he was playing from an uneven playing field! So again, he was stealing!
quote:That's the point. He wasn't "undercutting" anyone. That was a made up scenario that you guys came up with. When you make up a scenario and start attacking that made up scenario, instead of the *real* issue, it's called a "straw man".
Originally posted by EasyIf and I say if, he was undercutting legal guides, he was stealing from them! Sometimes I just don’t know how your mind works![:0] At the very least, he was playing from an uneven playing field! So again, he was stealing!
I’m willing to bet his actual prices are the same, if not higher, than Fritz. But Fritz’s prices are hidden for some reason. You have to call to get the price.
I am still waiting to hear if the man stealing numbers was a licensed captain or just a strawman captain, as it were.
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quote:One licensed captain taking numbers from another licensed captain.
Originally posted by PhinI am still waiting to hear if the man stealing numbers was a licensed captain or just a strawman captain, as it were.
Not undercutting then. Captain getting stolen from had full notice of what was going to happen. Bottom fishing captains are a rough crowd to hang with you know…
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He was undercutting them by not playing by the rules and paying for a license like they had to do! If he was charging the same, his cost was lower than theirs! So he was stealing, by not playing by the rules
This is turned into a Laurel and Hardy bit.
That part about blocking the Ohio area codes, that’s funny I don’t care who you are
quote:No notice was given. Hosting captain just happened to look over at guest captain and see that his "ditch bag" GPS was deployed, you know for safety, in case the boat capsized with grouper. Ironically that day, we did get enough to capsize most boats! Those were the glory days when you could keep 5 per person.
Originally posted by PhinNot undercutting then. Captain getting stolen from had full notice of what was going to happen. Bottom fishing captains are a rough crowd to hang with you know…
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Screw all that! I want to know who swiped the high dollar filet knife? You might have taken the mans livelihood!
PS: will saying, Screw all that, keep me from getting the women’s vote, when I run for President:question:
quote:That part was either made up or confused with another story. It has no relevance to your guy's imbalanced morals on "stealing". :smiley:
Originally posted by EasyScrew all that! I want to know who swiped the high dollar filet knife? You might have taken the mans livelihood!
In hindsight, I will accept payment of a filet knife for damages and restitution.
Damages and restitution, would indicate that you lost something wouldn’t it:question:
quote:Intellectual Property
Originally posted by EasyDamages and restitution, would indicate that you lost something wouldn’t it:question:
I believe those numbers are printed on Maps Unique, so how do you claim the as your, Intellectual Property 
Are we sure any numbers were “stolen?” What if the “stealer” was checking to see how close you were to some sweet snapper numbers that the Scurvy Dog gave him?
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quote:You would be wrong. I run out of a marina and have higher overhead so I have to charge more. I'm not even invited on Shem Creek group trips anymore because I complained about the 2007 rates they were charging. During the summer my rates for a 4hr trip start at $450 and go up from there, This time of year I knock $50 off of that due to the fact I'm not running to the harbor everyday.
Originally posted by skinneejquote:That's the point. He wasn't "undercutting" anyone. That was a made up scenario that you guys came up with. When you make up a scenario and start attacking that made up scenario, instead of the *real* issue, it's called a "straw man".
Originally posted by EasyIf and I say if, he was undercutting legal guides, he was stealing from them! Sometimes I just don’t know how your mind works![:0] At the very least, he was playing from an uneven playing field! So again, he was stealing!
I’m willing to bet his actual prices are the same, if not higher, than Fritz. But Fritz’s prices are hidden for some reason. You have to call to get the price.
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quote:Since you brought it up, do you know that the guide that this thread is about uses/used Tarpon photos from another local guides website to promote his own business? Will you defend that type stuff also?
Originally posted by skinneejquote:Intellectual Property
Originally posted by EasyDamages and restitution, would indicate that you lost something wouldn’t it:question:
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I don’t do blanket defenses. I made a simple case that not having paperwork is not “stealing anyone’s livelihood”. Why is it so hard to differentiate the two?
quote:So basically you are admitting that nobody is undercutting you, but you have to add on extra charges because you choose the luxury of a marina? Isn't that exactly the opposite of what you were push
Originally posted by CaptFritzquote:You would be wrong. I run out of a marina and have higher overhead so I have to charge more. I'm not even invited on Shem Creek group trips anymore because I complained about the 2007 rates they were charging. During the summer my rates for a 4hr trip start at $450 and go up from there, This time of year I knock $50 off of that due to the fact I'm not running to the harbor everyday.
Originally posted by skinneejquote:That's the point. He wasn't "undercutting" anyone. That was a made up scenario that you guys came up with. When you make up a scenario and start attacking that made up scenario, instead of the *real* issue, it's called a "straw man".
Originally posted by EasyIf and I say if, he was undercutting legal guides, he was stealing from them! Sometimes I just don’t know how your mind works![:0] At the very least, he was playing from an uneven playing field! So again, he was stealing!
I’m willing to bet his actual prices are the same, if not higher, than Fritz. But Fritz’s prices are hidden for some reason. You have to call to get the price.
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