Actually, rescuing a deer from offshore would not be considered “molesting” the deer as you were trying to save it’s life. Any judge would find that the law was held to it’s intent, therefore it was a legal action.
You’ve never been to court before, have you?
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Originally posted by skinneejActually, rescuing a deer from offshore would not be considered “molesting” the deer as you were trying to save it’s life. Any judge would find that the law was held to it’s intent, therefore it was a legal action.
You’ve never been to court before, have you?
sigh… You can not see the forest for the trees. I agree an SC judge would probably never let that case be heard by a jury.
MUCH LIKE NOT SENDING A PICTURE TO TRIAL OF A BOATED SAILFISH THAT SOMEONE IS GETTING READY TO RELEASE AFTER THE HOOK WAS REMOVED FROM IT’S MOUTH AND A FEW PICS WERE TAKEN!!!
And as far as my time in court. I have never been prosecuted. I did stand in front of a traffic court judge one time for speeding. That makes me cool right?
Do tell of all your court room experience. I will get my notebook so I can jot some good tips down.
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quote:Are you quite sure it's me that can't "see the forest for the trees"? You can't mess with a deer in the water because they are vulnerable in the water. If you are saving it's life, then you are removing it from a vulnerable position and providing it a service (if you will). The WHOLE *intent* of the NMFS law is to keep the billfish in the water so people will NOT remove it from the water. They understand that people do this for the picture. That's the WHOLE POINT of the law is so that people WON'T do it for pictures sake.
Originally posted by Scoutin 4 Goodies
MUCH LIKE NOT SENDING A PICTURE TO TRIAL OF A BOATED SAILFISH THAT SOMEONE IS GETTING READY TO RELEASE AFTER THE HOOK WAS REMOVED FROM IT’S MOUTH AND A FEW PICS WERE TAKEN!!!
And as far as my time in court. I have never been prosecuted. I did stand in front of a traffic court judge one time for speeding. That makes me cool right?
Do tell of all your court room experience. I will get my notebook so I can jot some good tips down.
Yes, I’ve been in court a few times. Sometimes for myself, and sometimes as a witness for others. But when you stand there, you might here 20+ cases tried before you get called. In a magistrate’s office, all they care about is whether the intent of the law is upheld. NOTHING ELSE… You can get a good lawyer to get you off on a technicality by the law’s funny wording, but that lawyer will cost you $2000+ and in a judge’s eyes that is just as good if not better than slapping you with a $400 fine, so you aren’t really going to benefit from doing so. Most people would rather risk a bench trial and the $400 fine instead of a guranteed $2000+ legal representatio
uh oh
I am in big trouble now…
what about when I am hunting in the river swamp and it is flooded?
I can try and cut them off on a ridge, but what if it is high water in December?
That pet deer is pitiful. It is a shame to see deer in such conditions. Like seeing a mallard with his wings clipped in colonial lake… you want to shoot him but you just feel too darn sorry.
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That’s not molesting a deer. THIS IS molesting a deer.
FROM THE DULUTH NEWS TRIBUNE, Duluth, MN
A man is accused of having sex with the carcass of a deer that he found lying beside the road – but his lawyer denies that he committed bestiality, on the grounds that a dead deer isn’t an animal any more.
20-year-old Bryan James Hathaway of Superior, Wisconsin allegedly had sex with the deer corpse after he found it on the roadside on October 11 this year. Authorities say he told police that he noticed the deer lying in a ditch, and then moved the corpse into the woods.
He is charged with ‘sexual gratification with an animal’ – but in a magnificent piece of legal footwork, his attorney argues that he can’t be guilty of that crime, because a carcass isn’t an animal, the Duluth News Tribune reports.
Public defender Fredric Anderson filed a motion last week which claimed: ‘The statute does not prohibit one from having sex with a carcass.’
He said that if you try to include corpses in the category of ‘animals’, then ‘you really go down a slippery slope with absurd results.’ The only clear place to draw a line in the definition of what is an animal, and what isn’t, was at the point of death, he argued.
He gave the example of a roast turkey – with which it would be illegal to have sex under the braoder interpretation of the law – claiming that it was unreasonable to suggest it should still be classified as an animal for the purposes of law.
In response, prosecutor James Broughner argued that a deer carcass is still an animal – pointing out that in his statement to police, Hathaway called the corpse a ‘dead deer,’ demonstrating that he still thought of it as an animal.
Judge Michael Lucci noted when hearing the arguments that: ‘I’m a little surprised this issue hasn’t been tackled before in another case.’
If Hathaway is convicted, he could serve up to two years in prison, because of a previous conviction in 2005 for shooting dead a horse called Bambrick. So that he could have sex with it.
just figured I would throw in a picture to keep the topic alive.
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Originally posted by TieOneOnThat’s not molesting a deer. THIS IS molesting a deer.
FROM THE DULUTH NEWS TRIBUNE, Duluth, MN
A man is accused of having sex with the carcass of a deer that he found lying beside the road – but his lawyer denies that he committed bestiality, on the grounds that a dead deer isn’t an animal any more.20-year-old Bryan James Hathaway of Superior, Wisconsin allegedly had sex with the deer corpse after he found it on the roadside on October 11 this year. Authorities say he told police that he noticed the deer lying in a ditch, and then moved the corpse into the woods.
He is charged with ‘sexual gratification with an animal’ – but in a magnificent piece of legal footwork, his attorney argues that he can’t be guilty of that crime, because a carcass isn’t an animal, the Duluth News Tribune reports.
Public defender Fredric Anderson filed a motion last week which claimed: ‘The statute does not prohibit one from having sex with a carcass.’
He said that if you try to include corpses in the category of ‘animals’, then ‘you really go down a slippery slope with absurd results.’ The only clear place to draw a line in the definition of what is an animal, and what isn’t, was at the point of death, he argued.
He gave the example of a roast turkey – with which it would be illegal to have sex under the braoder interpretation of the law – claiming that it was unreasonable to suggest it should still be classified as an animal for the purposes of law.
In response, prosecutor James Broughner argued that a deer carcass is still an animal – pointing out that in his statement to police, Hathaway called the corpse a ‘dead deer,’ demonstrating that he still thought of it as an animal.
Judge Michael Lucci noted when hearing the arguments that: ‘I’m a little surprised this issue hasn’t been tackled before in another case.’
If Hathaway is convi
In response, prosecutor James Broughner argued that a deer carcass is still an animal – pointing out that in his statement to police, Hathaway called the corpse a ‘dead deer,’ demonstrating that he still thought of it as an animal.
Judge Michael Lucci noted when hearing the arguments that: ‘I’m a little surprised this issue hasn’t been tackled before in another case.’
The judge leads you to believe that this kind of behavior has happened before.
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I bet Superior, Wisconsin is a happening place on a Saturday night.
Take what you can get, I guess.
He gave the example of a roast turkey – with which it would be illegal to have sex under the braoder interpretation of the law – claiming that it was unreasonable to suggest it should still be classified as an animal for the purposes of law
Wild and crazy guys in Minnesota.
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They must have really ugly women up there.
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Originally posted by splitdecisionThe judge leads you to believe that this kind of behavior has happened before.
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It has happened in your home town!! The story is alittle graphic for this site, but remind me and I will tell you later.
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I once knew a guy they called Rooooddddger.Rodger got caught in the barn with a goat with his back legs tied up and…ne.
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As I said before… You guys are dorks.
Thanksgiving will never be the same.
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What’s in the stuffing?
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Originally posted by BigEasyWhat’s in the stuffing?
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That is SICK! But soooo Funny!!
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to the save the sharks comment, wait until you have a possible tournament winning fish on the way to the boat only to have it bit in half by a shark!
play with fish…and get bit!
Wow
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Hey Scoutin,
You dig up any more info on the NMFS regs?
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