Perfect…please do the research for yourself. I encourage all to. I was not aware of the reg until recently and neither were others I have talked to. I posted my research for those too lazy to do it themselves. I did not mean to walk on these guys report, but we should respect all NMFS rules & regulations.
Nice catch fellas.
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Originally posted by CaptFritz
So what are the regs on keeping sailfish?
He took the bait like a jugbelly redfish on an olive and white clouser.
Basically you can fish every day and catch maybe hundreds of sailfish during a lifetime.Drag them behind big boats attached to 50w’s and 8/0 hooks.Just cut the line with hook attached as long as you DO NOT REMOVE the fish from the water.You are contributing to the survival of the species.You are a conservationist.If you buy permits and licenses, but can only fish a few times a year and maybe only catch 1 sailfish in a lifetime,and you take the fish out of the water for a picture before you let him swim away,YOU are a WORTHLESS BRUTAL BEAST OF A HUMAN BEING and will surely be reprimanded by the conservationist and it will be recorded on your PERMANENT RECORD:smiley:
Prowler 306
Yamaha F225’S
There is way too much gayness around here.
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Originally posted by empty pockets
There is way too much gayness around here.
You probably have a point.
Prowler 306
Yamaha F225’S
Hey, What about CarlaDee’s picture where did that come from the Charleston aquarium that explains why HAVANNA pulled the fish out of the water. WHO,WHAT,WHEN,WHERE who knows.Did you cut a page out of SaltWater magazine or where you falling out of the boat when you took that picture.
Since taking a picture of fish out of water is a crime,maybe from now on you could just post a good drawing.
Prowler 306
Yamaha F225’S
this post is dead, why don’t we all gang up on some inshore post and give him three pages. three pages for releasing a sail to swim again. give it up.
Also for more sails out of the water that did’nt</font id=“size5”> make it back to the dock, just click on any single local charter boats bragging board.
scout -
reread the faxed letter from runnoft - it states that any fish NOT RETAINED must be released in the water…
therefore there is no contradicting, just lots of jibber jabber. so, yes, it is technically illegal to take the glory photo… everyone has to decide for themselves how they want to handle it.
this has all been hashed and rehashed before. we have posted the same info on this website multiple times. make the decision for yourself, it is no different than shooting ducks over the limit, keeping short fish, baiting ducks, turkeys, etc… or any other game violation (well, except that you are unlikely to be observed doing it, and it doesn’t seem that dnr is going to go around prosecuting folks for the pictures they post on cf.com)
here is the info in pdf format from the nmfs
https://hmspermits.noaa.gov/other/2006angling_chb_brochure_final.pdf
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Originally posted by Carla Dee
scout -
reread the faxed letter from runnoft - it states that any fish NOT RETAINED must be released in the water…
therefore there is no contradicting, just lots of jibber jabber. so, yes, it is technically illegal to take the glory photo… everyone has to decide for themselves how they want to handle it.
this has all been hashed and rehashed before. we have posted the same info on this website multiple times. make the decision for yourself, it is no different than shooting ducks over the limit, keeping short fish, baiting ducks, turkeys, etc… or any other game violation (well, except that you are unlikely to be observed doing it, and it doesn’t seem that dnr is going to go around prosecuting folks for the pictures they post on cf.com)
here is the info in pdf format from the nmfs
https://hmspermits.noaa.gov/other/2006angling_chb_brochure_final.pdf
Point taken, but without penalty this is a useless law. I am going to call around and see if there are any cases of people being prosecuted for boating a sail for a pic then releaseing it in SC. Since the HMS permint is not an SC thing I assume that you would stand infront of a federal judge?
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Again.
Whats the big deal?
A sail is a kingfish with a big dorsal and bigger nose.
And most of you will catch more sails than yft this year.
Tail N 843 - You are absolutely correct. I did not mean to jump on anyone. This is the post everyone else seemed to jump on. I only posted my info b/c CaptFritz asked for the regs twice. It just seems that everyone who continues to post pictures of sails doesn’t seem to know or care about NMFS regulations. Take your picture, do whatever, it all depends on your own ethics. Just don’t post them online.
Scoutin - I doubt you will find any “court” cases, I am sure that if there ever were a case, it would have been settled before it got that far. I ain’t messing with the feds, & I would warn you about sniffing too hard. I was very vague in my questions to NMFS, I would suggest the same.
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Originally posted by Tail N 843
this post is dead, why don’t we all gang up on some inshore post and give him three pages. three pages for releasing a sail to swim again. give it up.
Also for more sails out of the water that did’nt</font id=“size5”> make it back to the dock, just click on any single local charter boats bragging board.
I have looked at the charter “bragging boards” and I have contacted most charters in SC. Their response… The pictures are old and they no longer take sailfish out of the water for pictures. What happens on the water is a totally different thing, they just don’t come home and post the pictures on CF calling it a “perfect release.” We have all made mistakes in the past. Ive drug my share of sailfish out of the water for pictures, but now I know the NMFS thought that properly handling billfish was important enough to make a reg.
So I play by the rules.
Email me & I will forward to you the responses.
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quote:
Originally posted by Scoutin 4 Goodies
Point taken, but without penalty this is a useless law. I am going to call around and see if there are any cases of people being prosecuted for boating a sail for a pic then releaseing it in SC. Since the HMS permint is not an SC thing I assume that you would stand infront of a federal judge?
From my understanding, state DNR officers can enforce federal law. If they couldn’t, then they wouldn’t be able to enforce any offshore regulations since state waters only extend to 3 miles offshore.
Think about it. They check for HMS permits, snapper and grouper limits, dolphin, wahoo, etc. Why would you think that this law is any different?
They probably haven’t been enforcing it at this point because of how tough it is to enforce. It’s only a matter of time before they start using the internet to enforce regulations. All it takes is for the right guy to say, “Hey let’s start enforcing this law”.
As guys have said over and over on here, most of us have done it in the past, but now that you KNOW it is illegal, why would you fight it? Don’t you agree that this law is in the best interest of the fish anyway? Why are people still arguing whether the fish is going to live or die? That’s all a moot point when it says in black and white that it is illegal. There isn’t really any defense against that anymore. Do you guys at least agree that if you are going to admittedly break the law that you shouldn’t post the pictures on the internet in front of thousands of witnesses? How can you argue that is a good idea. If you robbed someone, would you post pictures of all the stuff you stole on the internet because it was your first time stealing?
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Also, I heard a guy named sailfish23 that will not follow laws unless netgirl shows them to h
Would it make everyone feel better if the “out of water” pic was taken and then the fish were iced well before grilling?
They eat better than people would have you believe.
If you’re a conservationst, you should be happy that people are taking a nice picture and then releasing them, they have a better chance of surviving than the aforementioned icing/grilling scenario.
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Originally posted by gumshoe
Would it make everyone feel better if the “out of water” pic was taken and then the fish were iced well before grilling?
They eat better than people would have you believe.
If you’re a conservationst, you should be happy that people are taking a nice picture and then releasing them, they have a better chance of surviving than the aforementioned icing/grilling scenario.
Hey Greg, you wanna jump in here?
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For the record ( In case the man is reading) I have never taken a sailfish out of the water. Never Never Never!
Did I fail to mention that I’ve never even been lucky enough to even catch a sailfish?
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Without rules there would be total chaos.
Does anyone on here have a real job:question:
Prowler 306
Yamaha F225’S
I truely think the only way that this will ever be settled is if somebody just stops for a minute and asks the fish if he minds his picture taken. If we take a pole and the majority of the sails say they think it robs them of their sole then we don’t snap the photo. If the fishies don’t say anything then snap away!!
This could be a good thing. It could open up a two new jobs at the cenus bureau. One to ask the fish the questions and translate for the one writing the answers. 