Ok I understand the point, but it was his first and promised not to do it again. I do have one more question for you Experts, non-GREEN people, fish catching machines with all knowledge, that question is as follows, if the fish cannot breath out of the water and is tired and so to say winded after running 250 yards of line, then why do they jump out of the water so much during the fight??? Would they not be better off staying under water so they breathe better and can fight harder so maybe they can live??? Just a thought!!!
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day. FISH 24/7------------ 25 Grady w/ a couple of Gas Guzzling 175 Johnsons “O-SEA-D” the old “Havanadaydream”
Sorry Havana, but I need to quote this for safe keeping.
This is CF gold!!!
quote:Originally posted by HAVANADAYDREAM
Ok I understand the point, but it was his first and promised not to do it again. I do have one more question for you Experts, non-GREEN people, fish catching machines with all knowledge, that question is as follows, if the fish cannot breath out of the water and is tired and so to say winded after running 250 yards of line, then why do they jump out of the water so much during the fight??? Would they not be better off staying under water so they breathe better and can fight harder so maybe they can live??? Just a thought!!!
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day. FISH 24/7------------ 25 Grady w/ a couple of Gas Guzzling 175 Johnsons “O-SEA-D” the old “Havanadaydream”
someone told me that it’s ok to cut a few pounds of meat off of billfish and release them cause they reverberate like how starfish can grow their testicles back.
someone told me that it’s ok to cut a few pounds of meat off of billfish and release them cause they reverberate like how starfish can grow their testicles back.
“Can’t take it with you when you die.”
22’ Key West
200 Yamaha HPDI
reverberate???
I think you meant regenerate.
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, where the heck is the ceiling?
Sorry Havana, but I need to quote this for safe keeping.
This is CF gold!!!
quote:Originally posted by HAVANADAYDREAM
Ok I understand the point, but it was his first and promised not to do it again. I do have one more question for you Experts, non-GREEN people, fish catching machines with all knowledge, that question is as follows, if the fish cannot breath out of the water and is tired and so to say winded after running 250 yards of line, then why do they jump out of the water so much during the fight??? Would they not be better off staying under water so they breathe better and can fight harder so maybe they can live??? Just a thought!!!
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day. FISH 24/7------------ 25 Grady w/ a couple of Gas Guzzling 175 Johnsons “O-SEA-D” the old “Havanadaydream”
Greg, You nailed this one…and I will second Dukmon’s “Jesus”.
“It is the fisherman’s obligation to release the fish with as little stress as possible. This includes leaving it in the water. Technically it is NOT against the law to boat the fish.”
I have to run but more to come. She gave me the site and info. I will post all my findings. Any of you lawyer types that would explain “obligation” vs “illegal” would be helpful.
“Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a
pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly
used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming–WOW–What a ride!!!”
-Stuart Wilde-
All Rise - 31 Contender Fish Around with a pair of 250 Yamahas
You bet ya!!! When I catch my first tarpoon that it too will come out of the water for a picture!!! Just like my first monster Red, Marlin, Mora Mora, etc. before it was released
quote:Originally posted by CaptFritz
So I can kill one?
Smoked Tarpon and sailfish for everyone before the end of summer
He took the bait like a jugbelly redfish on an olive and white clouser.
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day. FISH 24/7------------ 25 Grady w/ a couple of Gas Guzzling 175 Johnsons “O-SEA-D” the old “Havanadaydream”
time to bag the big red. would love to see the live kicking marlin photo. that site above from noaa implies all billfish above minimum retention limits (sail 63") can be removed; only smallies can’t. fish on
“Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a
pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly
used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming–WOW–What a ride!!!”
-Stuart Wilde-
All Rise - 31 Contender Fish Around with a pair of 250 Yamahas
(a) All Atlantic HMS fishing gears. (1) An Atlantic HMS harvested from its management unit that is not retained must be released in a manner that will ensure maximum probability of survival, but without removing the fish from the water.
(2) If a billfish is caught by a hook and not retained, the fish must be released by cutting the line near the hook or by using a dehooking device, in either case without removing the fish from the water.
I am not giving up on my pursuit of the truth but…
Future post need to look something like this.
Today we caught our first sail. As the fish approached the boat a shark made a pass at him. The natural defense was to jump out of the water. When he did he landed on the deck. The crew rushed to get him back overboard but it was too late. He had already been on board. We were left with no other choice. With tears in our eyes we watched the worn out gasp for air on the deck, my little girl begged me to put him back but I could not, for to do that would violate the law. One of the crew members offered to make the most of the situation and take a pic of the fish so he too could be remembered as a champion of the sea.
We all tried to smile but it was hard. The fish was laid to rest in the box. He fought feriously for his life but the law says he must die now.
When we got back to the docks everyone was dressed in black and a few words were said as we cut him up for crab bait as with all bills they taste like s&%t unless smoked. I will forever find it difficult to fish again as my heart bleeds for the one that could not get away.
Here is a pic of him, please be kind he was but a friend.
(Insert pic of live fish here)
“Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a
pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly
used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming–WOW–What a ride!!!”
-Stuart Wilde-
All Rise - 31 Contender Fish Around with a pair of 250 Yamahas
(a) All Atlantic HMS fishing gears. (1) An Atlantic HMS harvested from its management unit that is not retained must be released in a manner that will ensure maximum probability of survival, but without removing the fish from the water.
(2) If a billfish is caught by a hook and not retained, the fish must be released by cutting the line near the hook or by using a dehooking device, in either case without removing the fish from the water.
It’s interesting that the two paragraphs you used are preceded by NMFS encourages catch and release of Atlantic
billfish, and the use of circle hooks to
maximize post-release survival.
They encourage it, but it in not a regulation.
Until Jan 1 2008, circle hooks are encouraged, but not required.
I would, of course, boat my first sail for a picture before releasing. After that, sails would remain in the water. If you guys would rather I take it home where death is assured, sorry about your luck. I’d rather give it a much better chance of living than in my freezer.
If you’re going to keep complaining, direct it to the proper authorities so that we can have yet another reg.
I see nowhere in this thread that anyone was speaking of the circle-hook rule, thus I do not understand what your point is.
If you want to keep a legal billfish, fine. This whole thread has been about the law pertaining to boating a billfish for a pic, and then returning it to the water.
It is clear that it is against the law. The law does not say that if it is your first billfish, then it is OK.
Here is one of them, this is the one RUNNOFT got his message. She also quoted another that mentoned the “obligation” I will get it tomorrow and post it.