Possible changes to Deer Management Laws

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But then i can’t use quick reply, which means replying takes a freaking year

I guess i could just type i /i in brackets, but that would still take forever

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But then i can’t use quick reply, which means replying takes a freaking year

I guess i could just type i /i in brackets, but that would still take forever


Your second offense will be $5,000. Third offense = Gitmo...

That is a problem with Internet communication. Good communication involves much more than typed words, it needs facial expressions, tone of voice, body language and other nuances that lead to a true understanding of what someone is really trying to express.

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But then i can’t use quick reply, which means replying takes a freaking year

I guess i could just type i /i in brackets, but that would still take forever


Your second offense will be $5,000. Third offense = Gitmo...
You can't be serious. Guantanomo Bay for third offense? That is ridiculous and you are ignorant. Who would even say such things?

This whole thread has been a trip. It’s amazing how new members keep popping up only in threads like these.

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Maybe DNR should institute some kind of credit towards the insanely expensive $1.88/deer tag for every coyote you kill.


“Insanely expensive?” Please tell me that was sarcasm.

No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.


Of course it was!

Got it. Sorry, I had yet to have my third pot of coffee when I posted that. We’re up to speed now. :sunglasses:

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Originally posted by Edistodaniel

But then i can’t use quick reply, which means replying takes a freaking year

I guess i could just type i /i in brackets, but that would still take forever


Your second offense will be $5,000. Third offense = Gitmo...
You can't be serious. Guantanomo Bay for third offense? That is ridiculous and you are ignorant. Who would even say such things?
It's the only way that you can be deterred... If we don't threaten you with Gitmo, you will never use the appropriate sarcasm tags.

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This whole thread has been a trip. It’s amazing how new members keep popping up only in threads like these.

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I’d bet a nickle a couple or three are aliases.

The most amazing (read depressing and/or perplexing) thing to me is how so many are more worried about or focused on themselves and not the resource. I once had a wildlife biologist from Alabama tell me “deer don’t need hunters to remain to be deer but deer hunters need deer to remain to be deer hunters.” Very elementary but very valid.

No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.

Well yes and no. Carrying capacity is a real issue being as we’ve destroyed so much habitat and natural predators. Overpopulated, diseased, emaciated deer are still technically deer… Accurate and responsible conservation through hunting makes deer be more deerish.

That last part was intentional stupidity. That’s why I underlined it. It’s my intentionally dumb font

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Originally posted by Edistodaniel

Well yes and no. Carrying capacity is a real issue being as we’ve destroyed so much habitat and natural predators. Overpopulated, diseased, emaciated deer are still technically deer… Accurate and responsible conservation through hunting makes deer be more deerish.

That last part was intentional stupidity. That’s why I underlined it. It’s my intentionally dumb font


I agree but it depends on the “size” of the habitat when considering carrying capacity. As I referred to, far too many people can’t see past or further than their own backyard and we all know that’s not going to give you an accurate representation of the carrying capacity of the habitat in question. You need to use a larger sample.

Oh, thanks for the heads up on the “intentionally dumb font.” Don’t know what I’d do without you. :wink:

No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.

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Maybe dnr should start a deer relocation project for those of you that don’t have enough deer on your land. In some areas the deer herds are to thick. They devastate crops cause people to crash their vehicles etc. I just don’t see a need for tags for every deer a hunter kills. I’m sure some of you have heard of CWD.


This mentality is one of the main obstacles standing in the way of sound herd management in this state. People can’t see any further than their own backyard. The DNR has a much larger area of responsibility to take into consideration. If a “limit” is set in your area and you don’t think it’s applicable to your property, the DNR has programs available to help your specific management needs. That said, the number one battle cry for those that want to exercise the “brown and down” management method and the “I shot more deer than you” management method is “we have too many deer where I live.”

You say “…for those of you that don’t have enough deer on your land.” What exactly is “enough” and what is your background that gives you the knowledge base that let’s you know what is “enough?” The DNR doesn’t set limits based on who they hope they can make mad or simply to flex their authority. They base limits, and the subsequent tags, on the carrying capacity of the habitat and the needs of the resource itself…AS IT SHOULD BE. When hunters can’t practice proper trigger management AND you have predator issues (both cases are rampant in SC), the DNR steps in to make sure some semblance of order and management prevails or at least exists. They (DNR) don’t show up where you work and try to tell you how

And the DNR has specific programs made entirely for issues such as you described. I grew up on a farm so I know what it means to lose crops (money) to deer. And just like I mentioned here, we took advantage of the program(s) the DNR offers. That said, I also realized that our issue was merely a small sampling of the bigger picture and should in no way be seen as a representation of what the entire county we lived in was experiencing. I knew the world extended beyond my backyard.

On a side note, all of the deer in the upstate were transplanted from the low country to re-stock that area and that gave birth to what we know now as the DNR because the “good ol’ boy” members of the General Assembly didn’t want to deal with having to manage and re-establish the deer herd in that part of the state. SC is the only state in the southeast that didn’t buy deer from northern states for re-stocking purposes.

No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.

Bang I know and unfortunately have to use the programs to help with the problem.

I would like to see more hunters/land owners plant and maintain year round food sources for the game. The usual corn pile in the fall is simply not enough nutrition.
In my opinion that would help you bring in more deer than a tag program.

Amen! Never been a big fan of corn piles and never have been a corn pile guard.

No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.

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Amen! Never been a big fan of corn piles and never have been a corn pile guard.

No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.


What about corn piles/feeder year round? Along with seasonal food plots year round. Are you a fan of that? That’s what we do.

I see a lot of hunters that only put corn out during the season. I like to think of the “season” as an all year affair. Figure deer don’t just eat during deer season.

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Amen! Never been a big fan of corn piles and never have been a corn pile guard.

No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.


What about corn piles/feeder year round? Along with seasonal food plots year round. Are you a fan of that? That’s what we do.

I see a lot of hunters that only put corn out during the season. I like to think of the “season” as an all year affair. Figure deer don’t just eat during deer season.


Same here.

The first rule of fight club is…

Fred, to be honest, no I’m not a big fan of using corn at all. I know deer ■■■■■ to it like a “cokehead” to a Scarface movie but I prefer to use more nutritional offerings in the form of food plots and fertilizing native browse. I know corn offers carbs but it offers barely negligible amounts of any other more beneficial nutrients. I’ve noticed you’re quick on the trigger so before you go off on me, I’m not saying anything negative against those that use corn. I will argue with those that say corn is part of their “supplemental feeding program” because corn isn’t “supplementing” anything nutritional. It’s an attractant, that’s it and if that’s your thing, so be it. just make sure you’re calling it what it truly is. It’s legal, statewide, so who am I to question it. I’m just saying I don’t use it in my supplemental feeding programs. Like you, I find it funny how some people only start their “feeding program” a week before opening day. Again, this only highlights what corn truly is, an attractant. I agree with you that every day is “deer season.” I see deer season as a different thing from hunting season.

No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.